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Thanks, khajja & enricoclaudio for the update. Got an email that my FV18 is shipping today.


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I've got 2 on the way, as well as a minidsp 2x4 hd and a umik-1. This should be fun
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Can't wait to read everyone's impressions once more of the paper cone FV18's are out in the wild! this thread is definitely going to blow up over the next few weeks

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Hi,

You have already gotten the best advice in the recommendations to go with a large ported subwoofer. The FV15HP would be a very good choice for the purpose you have described. It will offer you both clarity for music, and power for movies. The reason you need a large ported subwoofer is partly because you have a large space, and partly because you are 70% movies. Movies have lower frequencies, and require higher volumes of lower frequencies. It takes large subwoofers to produce those low-frequencies with authority, and ported subwoofers do it better than sealed ones. You can do some reading in the Guide, linked in my signature, but even if you do that, it will take you quite a while to get up to speed on all of the things you need to know about this subject.

The relationship between a room (any indoor space) and subwoofers is actually quite complicated and hard to summarize in a few sentences. Understanding why 5.1 movies require so much more low-frequency output is also pretty complicated to cover quickly, and so is the difference between sealed and ported subs. All of those issues are addressed in some detail in the Guide. But, buying the most capable ported subwoofer you can afford right now is the best advice you can get. And, that's what you came here for.

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Hey Mike- if I were to get two Rythmik subs what would you recommend vs the one 15HP? (considering I can't really go above 1500 currently) Our would you just stick one 15HP?

edit: just read your setup/selection guide regarding dual-subs.

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Hey Mike- if I were to get two Rythmik subs what would you recommend vs the one 15HP? (considering I can't really go above 1500 currently) Our would you just stick one 15HP?

edit: just read your setup/selection guide regarding dual-subs.
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Personally, I would just buy one FV15HP, if that's what you can afford right now. If you read all of Section VIII, you read about the advantages of having dual subwoofers. Most (although certainly not all) people who are serious about their HT systems end-up with dual subwoofers. In a larger room, I think the odds of that are increased. But, the operative words are "end-up", because most people have to upgrade to get to where they discover that they really want to be.

Buying two lesser subs right now has the advantage of more instant gratification, but the upgrade path is harder if they aren't enough--enough from both a low-frequency extension standpoint, and enough with respect to sufficient SPL below 30Hz. To upgrade, you have to sell your existing subs at a loss and reload.

When you buy one more powerful, and more expensive sub, you are starting-off knowing that you will probably upgrade, where with two bought together, you were hoping you wouldn't have to. But, you probably will want to upgrade, if you buy two smaller subs now, so it may not be a good gamble. With the single more powerful sub, the upgrade path is much easier, because you just add to it when you are ready/able to buy the second one.

As you read several times in that section, for the great majority of people looking to buy subwoofers, and especially for those with large spaces, I think that the best advice is to buy the most subwoofer that you can afford, with the long-term plan to add to it when you can. Most of us are going to find low-bass a little bit addictive once we buy a quality subwoofer. And, we are going to want a little more of it. That's where the upgrades pretty inevitably come in.

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one fv15hp should get you at least 115db(reference)...
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Hello,

I have a 3000cu ft room, concrete with wooden floor over it (not suspended)

the sub will be for 100% music and I want it to be spouse friendly. I currently have 2 front towers that play clean down to 32Hz, but they could use some more punch and go even lower.

I'm considering the E15HP. As that is about as big as I want to go, F15HP is possible too, but it's only 0,5db difference and the size is important.. (FV15HP is just too large for my options)

Would one of those have a significant improvement in the low-end in my setup, or is the room too large for that? I could later add a second one but I'm not sure if that will ever happen.

The F18 only comes with XLR amp, and I would want to connect via speaker level.. (I'm not using an AVR but a stereo amplifier)

tl dr: is the E15HP worth it in a sealed room of 3000cubic ft?

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I have a 3000cu ft room, concrete with wooden floor over it (not suspended)

the sub will be for 100% music and I want it to be spouse friendly. I currently have 2 front towers that play clean down to 32Hz, but they could use some more punch and go even lower.

I'm considering the E15HP. As that is about as big as I want to go, F15HP is possible too, but it's only 0,5db difference and the size is important.. (FV15HP is just too large for my options)

Would one of those have a significant improvement in the low-end in my setup, or is the room too large for that? I could later add a second one but I'm not sure if that will ever happen.

tl dr: is the E15HP worth it in a sealed room of 3000cubic ft?
The construction of that room wll be the bane of any subwoofer, and the cubic feet are going to be another hurdle to overcome. Mike's suggestion of an FV15HP is a good one, and likely as small as you should consider from the subwoofer perspective. It sounds like WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor) presents some challenges though so to me it seems your needs, budget and conditions are at odds with each other. There may not be a workable resolution unless a compromise can be made someplace.

 
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The F18 only comes with XLR amp, and I would want to connect via speaker level.. (I'm not using an AVR but a stereo amplifier)

tl dr: is the E15HP worth it in a sealed room of 3000cubic ft?
If you are interested in the F18, you could use something like this:
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I have a 3000cu ft room, concrete with wooden floor over it (not suspended)

the sub will be for 100% music and I want it to be spouse friendly. I currently have 2 front towers that play clean down to 32Hz, but they could use some more punch and go even lower.

I'm considering the E15HP. As that is about as big as I want to go, F15HP is possible too, but it's only 0,5db difference and the size is important.. (FV15HP is just too large for my options)

Would one of those have a significant improvement in the low-end in my setup, or is the room too large for that? I could later add a second one but I'm not sure if that will ever happen.

tl dr: is the E15HP worth it in a sealed room of 3000cubic ft?
The construction of that room wll be the bane of any subwoofer, and the cubic feet are going to be another hurdle to overcome. Mike's suggestion of an FV15HP is a good one, and likely as small as you should consider from the subwoofer perspective. It sounds like WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor) presents some challenges though so to me it seems your needs, budget and conditions are at odds with each other. There may not be a workable resolution unless a compromise can be made someplace.
What about the F18 when using the tool suggested above? I'd personally prefer sealed. (Looks + sound) although I read that Rythmik ported are just as tight ..

Would the F18 have enough output? I have about 3 options to place it, so i hope at least one of those places is decent.
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What about the F18 when using the tool suggested above? I'd personally prefer sealed. (Looks + sound) although I read that Rythmik ported are just as tight ..

Would the F18 have enough output? I have about 3 options to place it, so i hope at least one of those places is decent.
I have two F18's in a 3200 sq.ft. room on concrete, along with two F12's. One F18 would possibly be "enough" for music, but not for spirited movie watching. Two F18's would be better and have a better overall response. Whether they would be enough for you is hard to say, depending on your listening habits. I get good output and excellent sound quality from these F18's, more than enough for my family's listening habits. If you need body shaking bass, go ported and multiples.
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What about the F18 when using the tool suggested above? I'd personally prefer sealed. (Looks + sound) although I read that Rythmik ported are just as tight ..

Would the F18 have enough output? I have about 3 options to place it, so i hope at least one of those places is decent.
I have two F18's in a 3200 sq.ft. room on concrete, along with two F12's. One F18 would possibly be "enough" for music, but not for spirited movie watching. Two F18's would be better and have a better overall response. Whether they would be enough for you is hard to say, depending on your listening habits. I get good output and excellent sound quality from these F18's, more than enough for my family's listening habits. If you need body shaking bass, go ported and multiples.
Thanks for your input. Note that the system will be used 100% for music. Not for HT. I would actually be surprised if an 18" sealed sub with a 1000watt amplifier wouldn't be able to satisfy me. Especially if I notice I already get a very decent, almost satisfying, bass response from my main speakers alone..

Damn this is a difficult choice since I'm in Europe. Returning/changing it isn't all that easy 😄
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What about the F18 when using the tool suggested above? I'd personally prefer sealed. (Looks + sound) although I read that Rythmik ported are just as tight ..

Would the F18 have enough output? I have about 3 options to place it, so i hope at least one of those places is decent.
Ported is still preferable for your situation but the F18 is a better option than the E/F15HP. If music is your only concern it may be enough to satisfy your needs.

 
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Thanks for your input. Note that the system will be used 100% for music. Not for HT. I would actually be surprised if an 18" sealed sub with a 1000watt amplifier wouldn't be able to satisfy me. Especially if I notice I already get a very decent, almost satisfying, bass response from my main speakers alone..

Damn this is a difficult choice since I'm in Europe. Returning/changing it isn't all that easy 😄
If you are going 100% music, size is a factor, and you are close to being satisfied with your mains bass response, then the F18 is a no brainer. You will not be disappointed.
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Hello,

I have a 3000cu ft room, concrete with wooden floor over it (not suspended)

the sub will be for 100% music and I want it to be spouse friendly. I currently have 2 front towers that play clean down to 32Hz, but they could use some more punch and go even lower.

I'm considering the E15HP. As that is about as big as I want to go, F15HP is possible too, but it's only 0,5db difference and the size is important.. (FV15HP is just too large for my options)

Would one of those have a significant improvement in the low-end in my setup, or is the room too large for that? I could later add a second one but I'm not sure if that will ever happen.

The F18 only comes with XLR amp, and I would want to connect via speaker level.. (I'm not using an AVR but a stereo amplifier)

tl dr: is the E15HP worth it in a sealed room of 3000cubic ft?
Yup! F18 line level would be beautiful for music
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My FV15HP hums noticeably when I connect to the LFE port but no hum when connected to Line In port. Cable length is about 10m. What could be the reason?

Any disadvantage of I connect to LINE in instead of LFE port to solve the humming issue?
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I'm looking at the G25HP. Is this the best overall from Rythmik compared to their offerings? I currently have dual SVS SB16-ULTRAs. I like sealed subs, but love movies, and music equally. I plan to sell my SVS, buy one G25, and add another 6 months to a year later.

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There's really no "best overall", it's best for any particular situation and that all depends upon budget, room size, specific requirements, etc.

 
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I'm looking at the G25HP. Is this the best overall from Rythmik compared to their offerings? I currently have dual SVS SB16-ULTRAs. I like sealed subs, but love movies, and music equally. I plan to sell my SVS, buy one G25, and add another 6 months to a year later.

@muscles went from the SVS plus to JL subs to 2 G25HPs and has said he has more output and clean bass now then before.


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And that dude has some very serious equipment in his system.
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I'm looking at the G25HP. Is this the best overall from Rythmik compared to their offerings? I currently have dual SVS SB16-ULTRAs. I like sealed subs, but love movies, and music equally. I plan to sell my SVS, buy one G25, and add another 6 months to a year later.
Do dual G25HP's have more output and cleaner output than a pair of SB16's? Absolutely. Is it worth the extra time and money for you to upgrade? That is a tough question. This is a passion of mine and I throw some serious cash at it, I love music more than movies. For music it is without question a HUGE upgrade, the accuracy wows me every single time I use the system. Movies sound amazing, but they don't have the traditional sub "distortion" sound, and are not bloated. The amp also has the connections I need to hook it up to my system in 2 ways, one for music (C2600 McIntosh Pre) and one LFE for my Marantz SR8012. The only upgrade I would foresee for me would be to switch to FV25HP's, once you get used to the Rythmik sound, it is really hard to consider something else.

I have been curious about a shootout between the G25HP and the F25HP, curious to see if it can produce the same tight, accurate bass for music but really dominate for movies.

I have a chart with output somewhere I worked up in Excel, I believe 2 G25HP's has more output than 4 SB16's. The good news about SVS subs are they are very sought after and very easy to sell for a nominal loss on investment. Let us know what you decide!

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I'm looking at the G25HP. Is this the best overall from Rythmik compared to their offerings? I currently have dual SVS SB16-ULTRAs. I like sealed subs, but love movies, and music equally. I plan to sell my SVS, buy one G25, and add another 6 months to a year later.
Do dual G25HP's have more output and cleaner output than a pair of SB16's? Absolutely. Is it worth the extra time and money for you to upgrade? That is a tough question. This is a passion of mine and I throw some serious cash at it, I love music more than movies. For music it is without question a HUGE upgrade, the accuracy wows me every single time I use the system. Movies sound amazing, but they don't have the traditional sub "distortion" sound, and are not bloated. The amp also has the connections I need to hook it up to my system in 2 ways, one for music (C2600 McIntosh Pre) and one LFE for my Marantz SR8012. The only upgrade I would foresee for me would be to switch to FV25HP's, once you get used to the Rythmik sound, it is really hard to consider something else.

I have been curious about a shootout between the G25HP and the F25HP, curious to see if it can produce the same tight, accurate bass for music but really dominate for movies.

I have a chart with output somewhere I worked up in Excel, I believe 2 G25HP's has more output than 4 SB16's. The good news about SVS subs are they are very sought after and very easy to sell for a nominal loss on investment. Let us know what you decide!

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Sounds great to me. Do you really think the FV25HP will sound better? I want the best most accurate capable servo subwoofer from Rythmik for both music AND movies. Accuracy is key. I'm going dual regardless.

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Sounds great to me. Do you really think the FV25HP will sound better? I want the best most accurate capable servo subwoofer from Rythmik for both music AND movies. Accuracy is key. I'm going dual regardless.
I have not heard one(FV25HP) so I cannot really give an honest opinion, it would just be theory. If I were to theorize I would think that it would be better for movies and just a bit lesser for music (than the G25HP). It has a lot more output 20hz and below, which for movies would create that low frequency pressurization. The dual G25HP's I have do a damn good job themselves, but everyone's room and equipment differ. I would wait and hear from someone who has heard them both. The FV25HP's do have a slightly shallower depth, which also intrigues me.

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Sounds great to me. Do you really think the FV25HP will sound better? I want the best most accurate capable servo subwoofer from Rythmik for both music AND movies. Accuracy is key. I'm going dual regardless.
I have not heard one(FV25HP) so I cannot really give an honest opinion, it would just be theory. If I were to theorize I would think that it would be better for movies and just a bit lesser for music (than the G25HP). It has a lot more output 20hz and below, which for movies would create that low frequency pressurization. The dual G25HP's I have do a damn good job themselves, but everyone's room and equipment differ. I would wait and hear from someone who has heard them both. The FV25HP's do have a slightly shallower depth, which also intrigues me.

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At this point I'm looking for the theoretical capability of the subwoofer, as I want to buy once, you know what I mean?
If you can accommodate the size of the FV25HP, I would go for that one. Its a monster of a sub and excellent for movies and music. It also will have more TR which you will enjoy with movies
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At this point I'm looking for the theoretical capability of the subwoofer, as I want to buy once, you know what I mean?
I replaced two SB16s with a single G25HP and am glad I did. I considered an FV25HP but the size of it turned me off and it doesn’t come in a gloss black. Also I don’t care about movies, just music. The G25 does everything well and it’s relatively small. I’m still amazed all that perfect bass comes out of such an elegant box. I would like to get another one some day. Having two in any room will be glorious. I highly recommend it.
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If you are going 100% music, size is a factor, and you are close to being satisfied with your mains bass response, then the F18 is a no brainer. You will not be disappointed.
Then I'll go for the F18. If only they made those in white, as my towers are white as well..
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I replaced two SB16s with a single G25HP and am glad I did. I considered an FV25HP but the size of it turned me off and it doesn’t come in a gloss black. Also I don’t care about movies, just music. The G25 does everything well and it’s relatively small. I’m still amazed all that perfect bass comes out of such an elegant box. I would like to get another one some day. Having two in any room will be glorious. I highly recommend it.
You think just like me, except I do care about movies, and music. Your swaying me. I'm really thinking piano gloss G25HP. My neighbor is interested in buying both my SB16, then I can buy one now, and one later.
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You think just like me, except I do care about movies, and music. Your swaying me. I'm really thinking piano gloss G25HP. My neighbor is interested in buying both my SB16, then I can buy one now, and one later.
The thing about movies is that to improve from a 2.1 channel system with a G25 will require a large, unsightly sub in your room, and multiple surround speakers. Unless you have a room specifically for theater it’s not worth it to me, especially if you give up anything for music, which you certainly will unless your budget is massive. Luckily a system geared 100% towards music with a good sub will do really well with movies too, even with only 2.1 channels. And it will look nice in any room.
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The thing about movies is that to improve from a 2.1 channel system with a G25 will require a large, unsightly sub in your room, and multiple surround speakers. Unless you have a room specifically for theater it’s not worth it to me, especially if you give up anything for music, which you certainly will unless your budget is massive. Luckily a system geared 100% towards music with a good sub will do really well with movies too, even with only 2.1 channels. And it will look nice in any room.
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I currently have a 25x20x8' room with Dolby Atmos 7.1.4. In spite of what appears to be a home-theater-centric setup, music is actually of greater importance to me. Notably, I am about to get a pair of Magnepan .7is for 2.1 stereo listening (they will co-exist next to my HT fronts).

About 8 years ago I was about to buy a Rythmik D15se, but then someone literally gave me an AV123 MFW-15, so that's what I've been using ever since. However, with the upcoming addition of the Maggies, it's time to shop for a servo sub again.

The room is acoustically treated with 15 2x4' OC-703 panels (2" on side and back walls, 4" in all corners), and I sit perhaps 60% of the way back from the front wall (so 15' back into the 25' deep room). There are still a few spots in the room where bass response dips, but nothing terrible. Home theater is still important, but good musical integration is more important.

Anyway, I'm trying to decide between dual F12s or a single F15. Possibly even dual L12s if that would cut it. With 4000cf and the associated data I gave, what is the general recommendation?

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