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You really should post some pics of your room in this thread. Show it off a bit.

Oh I haven't been shy about sharing pictures. They are somewhere in this thread I think, but my searching skills are lackluster. Here are a couple for good measure anyway.
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Oh I haven't been shy about sharing pictures. They are somewhere in this thread I think, but my searching skills are lackluster. Here are a couple for good measure anyway.
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I would seriously consider the FV18 with paper cone. How big is your room?
My room is actually pretty big - I will need a measurement, because I haven't in quite some time. BUT - it is connected to dining room AND has two openings - one to the kitch, and another to a hallway that leads to other areas of the house. Honestly, its not a great room, and creates a lot of problems.
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For those that own the FV25HP, on a scale of 1-10 (10 being very)...How hard is it to get it down a flight of stairs for two well conditioned adults? Thanks Much!

One add: Don't really want to have to construct anything special to do it so basically carry it down. I'm hoping to order pair this morning but just want to make sure I've covered all my bases.
I would think one strong man could do it, so two average men should be able to handle it.
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Enrico, sorry if I missed it if you mentioned before, but what speakers did you go with for Atmos?
Boston Acoustics SoundWare. I had to get creative to get front heights aligned with rear heights, though.
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Oh I haven't been shy about sharing pictures. They are somewhere in this thread I think, but my searching skills are lackluster. Here are a couple for good measure anyway.
Question: how much time you spend making a nearly perfectly symmetrical image? Hah, very nice, man.

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My room is actually pretty big - I will need a measurement, because I haven't in quite some time. BUT - it is connected to dining room AND has two openings - one to the kitch, and another to a hallway that leads to other areas of the house. Honestly, its not a great room, and creates a lot of problems.


Remind me again what your budget was and any size restrictions? Dual FV18s with paper cone are a great option but dual FV25HP would be the best if you accommodate from a budget and size perspective


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Question: how much time you spend making a nearly perfectly symmetrical image? Hah, very nice, man.

For the photo, not much time. For the room, quite a bit of time. I actually laid out the speaker placement using AutoCAD and then I took a tape measure to place each speaker at the exact location at the exact angle I laid them out in AutoCAD so they are perfectly symmetrical to the MLP. I'm an engineer though, it's in my nature to be precise.
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For the photo, not much time. For the room, quite a bit of time. I actually laid out the speaker placement using AutoCAD and then I took a tape measure to place each speaker at the exact location at the exact angle I laid them out in AutoCAD so they are perfectly symmetrical to the MLP. I'm an engineer though, it's in my nature to be precise.
Funny that as a Civil Engineer I do as well use AutoCAD to layout my speakers. In fact, I used it a few weeks ago to design a mini-BOSS riser. AutoCAD has been my CAD software for the last 32 years. Started working with AutoCAD since V3.0 for MS-DOS.

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I suddenly feel my measurements are now completely off just by reading about the way you guys align your speakers time to step up my game and go from using my daughter's shoes to measure to a actually tape measure this is a awesome forum with skilled people.

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Funny that as a Civil Engineer I do as well use AutoCAD to layout my speakers. In fact, I used it a few weeks ago to design a mini-BOSS riser. AutoCAD has been my CAD software for the last 32 years. Started working with AutoCAD since V3.0 for MS-DOS.
Must admit, above my pay level/knowledge

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For the photo, not much time. For the room, quite a bit of time. I actually laid out the speaker placement using AutoCAD and then I took a tape measure to place each speaker at the exact location at the exact angle I laid them out in AutoCAD so they are perfectly symmetrical to the MLP. I'm an engineer though, it's in my nature to be precise.
And anal people like me, and nothing wrong with been precise

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Question: how much time you spend making a nearly perfectly symmetrical image? Hah, very nice, man.
The way I did my main towers was building a template made of wood, once I figure the angle I wanted for them.
Did one tower, reverse the template against the side and back wall for the other tower. To be perfectly at the same distance from the sides and back walls. Center Speaker, the old fashion way with a measuring tape measuring more than twice
A few hours of wood work shop, with hear defenders got the towers perfectly symmetrical. Got to save the hearing for the good stuff.


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Remind me again what your budget was and any size restrictions? Dual FV18s with paper cone are a great option but dual FV25HP would be the best if you accommodate from a budget and size perspective


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Budget wise, I'm not too sure. If I like my demo, I will sell the pb-4000...so really any Rythmik sub is possible. Not sure I could go dual right now, as I have a duplex with neighbors behind..they already feel the boom a little too much LOL
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Oh I haven't been shy about sharing pictures. They are somewhere in this thread I think, but my searching skills are lackluster. Here are a couple for good measure anyway.
Get one or two more put them right behind your couch
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Not that I want to talk you out of a Rythmik purchase but you sure you have it calibrated right? I haven't heard the PB4000, so maybe it is boomy. My FV25HP's were a bit boomy when I first hooked them up but after level matching them and having some help with Mini DSP they are all good now. There are a few dips, but nothing crazy at this point.



*This is only true for my room situation*
The G25HP was much easier to dial in and get sounding fantastic. The FV25HP's were a bit of a chore. The low end on the FV25 cannot be ignored, it is spectacular. Explosions actually give me an adrenaline rush. They are anxiety inducing subwoofers. The G25 was just pleasant in all frequencies and sounded so good, I would definitely buy them again in a heartbeat. Don't get me wrong, the G25's also have a ton of output! More than all 4 of my prior subs.



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Do you use low damping ? 12 Hz ext ?
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I suddenly feel my measurements are now completely off just by reading about the way you guys align your speakers time to step up my game and go from using my daughter's shoes to measure to a actually tape measure this is a awesome forum with skilled people.
Enrico is OCD as well so don't go by him.
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Budget wise, I'm not too sure. If I like my demo, I will sell the pb-4000...so really any Rythmik sub is possible. Not sure I could go dual right now, as I have a duplex with neighbors behind..they already feel the boom a little too much LOL

Go with a FV25HP and add another layer.



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Do you use low damping ? 12 Hz ext ?

With the G25HP I used medium damping and 14hz extension, that really sounded best in my room.


With the FV25HP I use high damping 12hz extension.


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That's what I'm thinking....well, once I hear it haha
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Get one or two more put them right behind your couch

I have all of the LFE that I need currently in my sealed room. If I needed more TR, I would probably get Crowsons rather than add more subs.
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I have all of the LFE that I need currently in my sealed room. If I needed more TR, I would probably get Crowsons rather than add more subs.
This brings up a good question: is it better to chase TR with ported subs or Tactile Motion Actuators?

Or more realistic: how about the BOSS riser concept discussed here recently? Maybe that is the better solution - so you could have your sealed subs for normal use, and switch on the riser subs when desired. You sacrifice nothing.
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I had the chance to build a mini-BOSS riser for Ray a few weeks back. The results are very good and it's cheap. Definitely cheaper than adding a new ported subwoofer or a mid bass module. However, there are a few things to consider when building a mini-BOSS.

First is your seating. If your seats have not enough empty space under, then you can't build a mini-BOSS and you have to build a full size BOSS which is more expensive and requires more skills and tools. Also, it will increase the height of the riser from 2.5" to 6". Ray's mini-BOSS is almost 4" tall as he has limited space under the seats.

Second, if you don't have a dedicated room, the mini-BOSS will look intrusive and definitely could be not wife friendly. Even if you finish it with carpet and are able to hide the drivers under the seats, you will notice it. Definitely not an ideal solution in most living rooms.

Third, that thing is HEAVY. On the mini-BOSS thread they recommend a single 3/4" plywood but 2 x 3/4" plywood glued together works definitely better. That thing was a nightmare to work whit in Ray's room. Opening the holes for the drivers wasn't an easy task. I have no garage so literally would be impossible for me to build a mini-BOSS inside my apartment. That would be a limitation for any person that lives in an apartment or condo.

Fourth, if you are going to use a Behringer NX3000D to power the drivers, you would need to mod the amp and install a new fan as that amp is super noisy. Changing the fan is not a big deal for most people. Even a monkey can do it but I know a lot of monkeys in this forum that won't be able to do it

Fifth, the JBL drivers go on sale from time to time so you have to be aware that the mini-BOSS is cheap only if you buy the JBL drivers when they go on sale for $29 each. Regular price is $129. They go on sale every few weeks on Best Buy.

The total cost of a mini-BOSS with the Behringer NX3000D + 3 x JBL GX1200 drivers + Plywood + Carpet + Wires and adapters is around $700. Definitely cheaper than Crowsons ($2800 for the equivalent result) but the advantage of the Crowson is that you can fit them in a shoe box. I was all in with the mini-BOSS until I build the one for Ray. I liked the results a lot but the intrusive look and the amount of work that requires to build it and also my renting status, made me discard the project and ended returning the drivers and amplifier. If money is not an issue and you are a plug and play guy like me, the Crowsons would be the best choice.

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I had the chance to build a mini-BOSS riser for Ray a few weeks back. The results are very good and it's cheap. Definitely cheaper than adding a new ported subwoofer or a mid bass module. However, there are a few things to consider when building a mini-BOSS.

Fifth, the JBL drivers go on sale from time to time so you have to be aware that the mini-BOSS is cheap only if you buy the JBL drivers when they go on sale for $29 each. Regular price is $129. They go on sale every few weeks on Best Buy.

The total cost of a mini-BOSS with the Behringer NX3000D + 3 x JBL GX1200 drivers + Plywood + Carpet + Wires and adapters is around $700. Definitely cheaper than Crowsons ($2800 for the equivalent result) but the advantage of the Crowson is that you can fit them in a shoe box. I was all in with the mini-BOSS until I build the one for Ray. I liked the results a lot but the intrusive look and the amount of work that requires to build it and also my renting status, made me discard the project and ended returning the drivers and amplifier. If money is not an issue and you are a plug and play guy like me, the Crowsons would be the best choice.
I noticed those drivers are only rated down to 35Hz - wouldn't other drivers better? Of course, they couldn't touch the $29 price.

As to your last comment, I think if one truly wanted plug and play, they would just get high output ported subs instead of sealed and skip the Crowsons - unless you are in a concrete basement.

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I noticed those drivers are only rated down to 35Hz - wouldn't other drivers better? Of course, they couldn't touch the $29 price.

As to your last comment, I think if one truly wanted plug and play, they would just get high output ported subs instead of sealed and skip the Crowsons - unless you are in a concrete basement.
Not if you have concrete floors. Crowsons and BOSS add that low tuned TR that concrete sucks out of your subwoofers. The frequency response of the driver doesn't matter with the BOSS as the drivers are working open air. They play any frequency you through at them. I tested the JBL GX1200 driver down to 3Hz and it plays that frequency without any issues.
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I noticed those drivers are only rated down to 35Hz - wouldn't other drivers better? Of course, they couldn't touch the $29 price.



As to your last comment, I think if one truly wanted plug and play, they would just get high output ported subs instead of sealed and skip the Crowsons - unless you are in a concrete basement.


Its an open baffle system so there is no sound coming out of the drivers. I am getting movement down to 3-4hz


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Its an open baffle system so there is no sound coming out of the drivers. I am getting movement down to 3-4hz
Hard to argue with that.

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I think we all have a bit of the OCD, I know I do when it comes to audio and other stuff. We call that being analytical.
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I know when it come to Audio, I got-it Big Time
The funny thing, a year ago. I took a test with many questions. Many answers add choices that all apply to me, for been very relevant.
But had to decide from the most relevant to the least, I thought it was stupid.
Once the results came back, and went on a safety course related to this questioner.
With results for every single worker. Mine felt under very high under "analytical", of the four parts of the circle.
Scary that a questioner that I thought was so stupid, could be so dead on knowing the personality of a person
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This might be a dumb question but I’ll ask anyway. If laying two ported subs along wall (in this case fv25s) on their sides equidistant but facing the mlp is it better to position ports away from each other, together, or does it not matter?

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In my line of work, we like to say "there is no stupid question". Since you do not know, what you don't know.
While in Audio it is not a matter of Life or Death, like my work. I still apply this principle all the time.

Like you, at this moment. I am with the same dilemma, with the exception of one sub between my Center Speaker and the Right Tower.
Since I am more into Mid Bass than Deep Bass (under some frequencies, my room induce too many vibrations problems. That can more distracting than gain of lower tuning).
So far, I am leaning with keeping the driver closer to the center. And the ports closer to the right wall, to remove lower frequencies gain from corner loading.
But will play with both, to see what the original response are. Before applying Audyssey HT32.

The second FV18, will need to be somewhere else in the room. And who knows, the front one might end-up somewhere else.
Only a lot of experimentation's will tell me the best locations, Once I get those two FV18 for my room.


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Haven't really used my system in a long time other than just the muddled broadcast TV my family watches occasionally (Jeopardy and such). My son wanted to watch a movie a few nights ago and chose Avatar on Blu-ray. We popped it in the Oppo-203 and MAN those Rythmiks came back to life. Even on just that 5.1 DTS audio track, it made me feel good that my 2xFV15HPs are always waiting and ready to impress. My girls are 1 now so a couple more years and we'll be back in business watching some good movies. Currently researching short throw 4K Projectors....

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It's with a heavy heart that I write this. My HOA requested a meeting with me today and told me that the whole community that I live in has complained (ever since I got the FV25HP's) that their houses shake and it feels like constant earthquakes. They advised me to just get headphones (yeah right!). I don't know what to do, I guess I will probably have to put the subs up for sale. I am really bummed that I am being forced out of this hobby. Everyone at work tonight said I looked like I lost a loved one lol.



Since I can't go big....maybe I will just go with some finesse. Maybe I will go with dual F18's. At this point, I will have to stay away from ported subs. The output below 20hz is just too much for a small house in a small community. Before you recommend that I move (a bit extreme) I live in an area where 1200sqft houses are 1.3 million dollars and up. It's just not feasible for me. What do you guys think?


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It's with a heavy heart that I write this. My HOA requested a meeting with me today and told me that the whole community that I live in has complained (ever since I got the FV25HP's) that their houses shake and it feels like constant earthquakes. They advised me to just get headphones (yeah right!). I don't know what to do, I guess I will probably have to put the subs up for sale. I am really bummed that I am being forced out of this hobby. Everyone at work tonight said I looked like I lost a loved one lol.



Since I can't go big....maybe I will just go with some finesse. Maybe I will go with dual F18's. At this point, I will have to stay away from ported subs. The output below 20hz is just too much for a small house in a small community. Before you recommend that I move (a bit extreme) I live in an area where 1200sqft houses are 1.3 million dollars and up. It's just not feasible for me. What do you guys think?


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Wow that's a bummer man, I seriously got the fv25hp on your outlook on the g25hp and then moved to the fv25hp. Would you be atleast be able to keep 1?

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