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I can't compare to the F12 but I own dual F8's. I agree that the taller (non-square) look is more appealing. I have the subs located on either side of my entertainment stand and I sit about 9-10 feet away. There are times I would like a little more "thump" for movies but, even at -20 db volume, I will get some movement in my seat during bass heavy scenes. I found that using the floor spikes is the key to getting tactile response from the F8's. I had used SVS isolation feet previously and it killed virtually all the tactile sensation. For music, the F8's are perfect and I really would not want more bass.
Nice. Yeah, it's not necessarily the spikes that improved the situation, it's the fact that you are no longer absorbing the vibrations with the isolation material and are instead sending them directly through the floor by coupling with something solid. That's why I don't recommend decoupling subs with isolation materials unless you have family or neighbor requirements.

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Hello,

I was looking at purchasing the FVX15 to replace my old M&K MX-125 MKII, but I saw that for pretty much the same price I could get dual L12's, so I'm looking for some advice on the best way to go for my situation. My room is 16x12x8 and is open on one side to the adjacent kitchen. My sub currently sits next to the couch in the corner opposite of the kitchen, but I could probably fit 2 smaller subs (like the L12) on either side of the couch. So the 2nd sub would be next to the couch on the kitchen side, where there's a partial wall.

Listening is 80% movies/tv/games, 20% music and I generally don't listen too loud. My speakers are 4 Pioneer Elite SP-EBS73-LR and the matching center. I plan to use Audyssey XT32 for calibration and my receiver can EQ 2 subs independently.

Looking for any suggestions on whether I should stick with 1 FVX15 or look at 2 L12's for this situation. If I got the FVX15, it's unlikely I'd have room to fit a 2nd down the road.

Thanks!
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Having a second sub to improve your bass is great. But honestly, it's not worth it if you have a predetermined location for it. To really benefit, you need to place the sub where it tells you, by measuring and listening.
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Gonna have some fun dialing in my brother in-laws new toys! I recommended the following to go with the Martin Logan 60Xti's he's been dreaming about owning, I had him get the Denon 3400h and he needed a new sub and has eyed my subs for years and when he saw I had an F18 he fell in love with it but his budget was under 1k and that made recommending the LVX12 a no brainier! It's gonna be a fun day watching his expression after I get it all dialed in for him
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^ +1. Question: why is it that helping others integrate their new toys (read subwoofers) so much fun?
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I was looking at purchasing the FVX15 to replace my old M&K MX-125 MKII, but I saw that for pretty much the same price I could get dual L12's, so I'm looking for some advice on the best way to go for my situation. My room is 16x12x8 and is open on one side to the adjacent kitchen. My sub currently sits next to the couch in the corner opposite of the kitchen, but I could probably fit 2 smaller subs (like the L12) on either side of the couch. So the 2nd sub would be next to the couch on the kitchen side, where there's a partial wall.

Listening is 80% movies/tv/games, 20% music and I generally don't listen too loud. My speakers are 4 Pioneer Elite SP-EBS73-LR and the matching center. I plan to use Audyssey XT32 for calibration and my receiver can EQ 2 subs independently.

Looking for any suggestions on whether I should stick with 1 FVX15 or look at 2 L12's for this situation. If I got the FVX15, it's unlikely I'd have room to fit a 2nd down the road.

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For your usage go with the FVX15.
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^ +1. Question: why is it that helping others integrate their new toys (read subwoofers) so much fun?
Best guess? The sheer love and the sharing (and or having someone to) this hobby of our's
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That sounds exciting but you have to tell us ...for what
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That sounds exciting but you have to tell us ...for what
FV18 paper cone. I'm very excited. Lol
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^^ Sweeeet. Tell us when you get the tracking number for the second FV18
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I currently have dual SB16's but they are no good for movies. I'm thinking of getting dual FV18 paper cone subs. That would be a substantial upgrade wouldn't it? I'm just a little intimidated by the sheer number of settings the Rythmik subs have.
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I currently have dual SB16's but they are no good for movies. I'm thinking of getting dual FV18 paper cone subs. That would be a substantial upgrade wouldn't it? I'm just a little intimidated by the sheer number of settings the Rythmik subs have.
The SB is a sealed sub and the FV18 is ported so it will have substantial advantage for movies especially. I too used to be intimated with the knobs and switches till I found out that they actually help tailor the sound to how i like it. You can set it once and forget about it or you can play with different combinations and port tunes. It is actually a big benefit to have all that flexibility. I would not be intimidated by it at all, plus you have enrico and all the guys on this forum to answer questions. The FV18 paper cones are outstanding for movies, I know, I got the first ones sold...

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^^ Sweeeet. Tell us when you get the tracking number for the second FV18
Hahaha. I'm going to have to wait until I get a house. I think 1 is more than enough for an apartment right now..
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I currently have dual SB16's but they are no good for movies. I'm thinking of getting dual FV18 paper cone subs. That would be a substantial upgrade wouldn't it? I'm just a little intimidated by the sheer number of settings the Rythmik subs have.
I am surprise by this statement, It could be because they were of a seal design. Since my dual PB13-Ultra were great for movies, but is a port design. I personally believe the FV18, would be superior due to their port design for movies.

Just waiting for my shipping confirmation, for dual FV18 to be ship. And should be any days now


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I've been contemplating for months what to get. Something else from SVS? I looked at PSA, Rythmik, Outlaw, Monoprice, XTZ, and more. After doing all my research it seems of the top tier or near top tier big boy subs, the FV18 seems to be the best bang for your buck. I just now placed the order for not 1 but 2 FV18 paper cone subs. I can't wait to see what these monsters can do.
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I've been contemplating for months what to get. Something else from SVS? I looked at PSA, Rythmik, Outlaw, Monoprice, XTZ, and more. After doing all my research it seems of the top tier or near top tier big boy subs, the FV18 seems to be the best bang for your buck. I just now placed the order for not 1 but 2 FV18 paper cone subs. I can't wait to see what these monsters can do.
You don't mess around do you? I like it. Congrats man! This will be bass you have not experienced before.....
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Question for Rythmik FV25HP owners. How do you like them for Movies? I have a 2800 cubic feet HT room, 8' ceilings, 2nd story wood floor, carpet, etc. I already have 2 of the FV25HP speakers in the box, have not set them up yet (having some buyers remorse on the Rythmiks, wanted the new PSA ipal offerings but didnt wan't to wait for them to come out, pre-order wait list, etc, but the FV25s were in stock). I do not see a lot of posts on the FV25HP for HT use, so appreciate any feedback for these. Just curious if I should have held out for the new PSA ipal offerings or JTRs and unload the Rythmiks and get on the PSA wait list.

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I thought about giving my money to this company but their sales team just basically steered me away. I asked about real recommendations and got the broadest of responses. I am actually in Austin and was going to drive up there and pick one up to save on shipping. How has the support been from this company? If I'm going to spend $1200 on a sub want to have some better feelings about them.
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I thought about giving my money to this company but their sales team just basically steered me away. I asked about real recommendations and got the broadest of responses. I am actually in Austin and was going to drive up there and pick one up to save on shipping. How has the support been from this company? If I'm going to spend $1200 on a sub want to have some better feelings about them.
Rythmik CS is amongst the best out there. Not sure what specifically you asked about.

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Question for Rythmik FV25HP owners. How do you like them for Movies? I have a 2800 cubic feet HT room, 8' ceilings, 2nd story wood floor, carpet, etc. I already have 2 of the FV25HP speakers in the box, have not set them up yet (having some buyers remorse on the Rythmiks, wanted the new PSA ipal offerings but didnt wan't to wait for them to come out, pre-order wait list, etc, but the FV25s were in stock). I do not see a lot of posts on the FV25HP for HT use, so appreciate any feedback for these. Just curious if I should have held out for the new PSA ipal offerings or JTRs and unload the Rythmiks and get on the PSA wait list.
If you have the subwoofers already, why not open the boxes and listen to them in your room? I have a single FV25HP in my 2700 cu ft living room and it sounds amazing. In fact, it is kinda overwhelming sometimes so I can't imagine what a pair would do in a similar room size. I have listened to both, the JTR Cap 2400-ULF and the FV25HP in a 7000 cu ft room and both of them sounded great. The FV25HP had a cleaner sound with zero port noise. The Cap 2400 exhibited a bit of port noise (not port wind) with some scenes but with a pair won't be noticeable. The FV25Hp sound is very accurate and detailed. You can take apart every note. The Cap 2400 sound is thicker and less refine. More like "raw and violent".
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^^ What he said. It is a no brainer to pick up the Rythmik sub(s) if you are there in Austin. It makes return (completely free) or any future support service needs super easy.
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Question for Rythmik FV25HP owners. How do you like them for Movies? I have a 2800 cubic feet HT room, 8' ceilings, 2nd story wood floor, carpet, etc. I already have 2 of the FV25HP speakers in the box, have not set them up yet (having some buyers remorse on the Rythmiks, wanted the new PSA ipal offerings but didnt wan't to wait for them to come out, pre-order wait list, etc, but the FV25s were in stock). I do not see a lot of posts on the FV25HP for HT use, so appreciate any feedback for these. Just curious if I should have held out for the new PSA ipal offerings or JTRs and unload the Rythmiks and get on the PSA wait list.
The FV25hp IMO is an outstanding sub for both music and movie (yes, I have listened to it). Since you already have them, listen to them for your own good and determine if they are for YOU. Reading the forum is fun and all with all the discussion that this sub is better than that sub, etc... but at the end it is what YOU think good for YOU. After meeting lots of forum members and listened to their setups, I have learnt that people do like different sound, what great to them could be so so to you and vice versa.
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I am surprise by this statement, It could be because they were of a seal design.
The SB16 is a powerhouse for a little sub so there's likely more to the story. It could be a placement issue, configuration, MLP in a null, massive size room, etc. If it's any of those - except for room size - I wonder if a larger ported sub would actually help. My HT is only 13x17x8, so not terribly large, but when I reviewed the SB16 it proved to be no slouch in that space.

 
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Question for Rythmik FV25HP owners. How do you like them for Movies? I have a 2800 cubic feet HT room, 8' ceilings, 2nd story wood floor, carpet, etc. I already have 2 of the FV25HP speakers in the box, have not set them up yet (having some buyers remorse on the Rythmiks, wanted the new PSA ipal offerings but didnt wan't to wait for them to come out, pre-order wait list, etc, but the FV25s were in stock). I do not see a lot of posts on the FV25HP for HT use, so appreciate any feedback for these. Just curious if I should have held out for the new PSA ipal offerings or JTRs and unload the Rythmiks and get on the PSA wait list.
If you have the subwoofers already, why not open the boxes and listen to them in your room? I have a single FV25HP in my 2700 cu ft living room and it sounds amazing. In fact, it is kinda overwhelming sometimes so I can't imagine what a pair would do in a similar room size. I have listened to both, the JTR Cap 2400-ULF and the FV25HP in a 7000 cu ft room and both of them sounded great. The FV25HP had a cleaner sound with zero port noise. The Cap 2400 exhibited a bit of port noise (not port wind) with some scenes but with a pair won't be noticeable. The FV25Hp sound is very accurate and detailed. You can take apart every note. The Cap 2400 sound is thicker and less refine. More like "raw and violent".
Awesome, exactly the feedback I was looking for. I see a lot of info on the FV18HPs with high praise, not so much on the 25s.
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Awesome, exactly the feedback I was looking for. I see a lot of info on the FV18HPs with high praise, not so much on the 25s.
The FV25’s will have the same clean Rythmik sound that the FV18’s have, just more of it.

The 25’s are quite a bit bigger and a little harder for people to pull off in their rooms so I’m thinking that is why you read less about them.

My dual FV18’s (rev1 aluminum cone) are pretty intense in my 10k+ cubic foot space. Walls and windows flex, pictures and mirrors dance on the walls, floors tremble, etc. The 25’s in your much smaller room will be nothing short of insanity if set up properly.

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I thought about giving my money to this company but their sales team just basically steered me away. I asked about real recommendations and got the broadest of responses. I am actually in Austin and was going to drive up there and pick one up to save on shipping. How has the support been from this company? If I'm going to spend $1200 on a sub want to have some better feelings about them.
I have used email and phone to contact Rythmik (Brian each time). I called his number yesterday and left a message asking when my son's L12 was going to ship. He called me back a few hours later to tell me it would ship today (received shipping notification this morning!). Email communication has always been clear and helpful. My F12G is about five years old, and I've never had an issue with it.

Unless I'm mistaken, Rythmik Audio is a small two or three person operation. They don't have someone sitting on a chair fielding calls from prospective customers. Before deciding on my son's L12 sub, I researched SVS, Hsu, and RSL, but kept returning to Rythmik because I know first-hand that they sell quality products and stand behind their products.

Most of my audio components were purchased from one-man operations where you get awesome one-on-one customer service, but you must sometimes accept longer wait times for a return call or delays due to supply chain hiccups.

YMMV, of course. The above is just my two cents.

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Awesome, exactly the feedback I was looking for. I see a lot of info on the FV18HPs with high praise, not so much on the 25s.
Your buyer's remorse will quickly fade away as soon as you fire them up and play your first demo scene at near reference.

They are awesome subs!

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I thought about giving my money to this company but their sales team just basically steered me away. I asked about real recommendations and got the broadest of responses. I am actually in Austin and was going to drive up there and pick one up to save on shipping. How has the support been from this company? If I'm going to spend $1200 on a sub want to have some better feelings about them.
A+ all the way and I reserve that rating for only a handful to deal with including the likes of Anthem,Parasound,Kresiel Oppo (when there was such a thing) and If your in Austin count yourself extremely lucky
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I thought about giving my money to this company but their sales team just basically steered me away. I asked about real recommendations and got the broadest of responses. I am actually in Austin and was going to drive up there and pick one up to save on shipping. How has the support been from this company? If I'm going to spend $1200 on a sub want to have some better feelings about them.
Don't exactly know how you came to that conclusion because Enrico and Brian are 2 of the best guys in this business......hands down. If you spend $1200 with them, it will be money well spent and likely some of the best money you can spend on your system. No question they and their subs are top notch.

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