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Long time no see boys

Watched EOT and the start was just stupid! I couldn't go past -40 as my windows were rattling at -40 on up! Running sub trims where XT 32 sets them and PGM 2 on Submersives and 4db low shelf via mini dsp. I have been thinking I may bypass the low shelf and instead do a 3db sub trim bump.
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-40?!?! Dude, you gotta let er rip man....

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Watched EOT and the start was just stupid! I couldn't go past -40 as my windows were rattling at -40 on up! Running sub trims where XT 32 sets them and PGM 2 on Submersives and 4db low shelf via mini dsp. I have been thinking I may bypass the low shelf and instead do a 3db sub trim bump.

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Okay…. Finally watched T4 tonight, lots and lots and lots of bass throughout the movie. Great workout for the subs. More movies like this would be fun for us all.
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Okay…. Finally watched T4 tonight, lots and lots and lots of bass throughout the movie. Great workout for the subs. More movies like this would be fun for us all.

NICE !!!
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NICE !!!
I figured you would like the track. Did you go the Dolby 5.1 discrete track or Atmos ?
I watched the first half of the movie in the Atmos setting and the second half in the 5.1 to see if I would notice any difference. I feel like the 5.1 sounded a bit better but in either setting I was having a lot of fun with the audio in general and the bass specifically.
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HTTYD 2

What a huge disappointment. It's hard to believe this was a Randy Thom sound design.
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What a huge disappointment. It's hard to believe this was a Randy Thom sound design.
Agreed. I even thought the non-bass parts of the audio were underwhelming like surround speaker use.

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-40? The wife said tampons are on isle 12

now that's funny right there...
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as an aside i checked out "trollhunter" the other nite and it was a lotta fun...nice bass as well. i forget who steered me to this...nube maybe?

anyway, i wondered if anyone had issues with the subtitles being cut off...?


seems like i only could read the top line
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Agreed. I even thought the non-bass parts of the audio were underwhelming like surround speaker use.
I agree 100% with both quotes above. I actually put the first installment of How to Train Your Dragon in after watching the sequel and I noticed immediately that the volume was MUCH louder and the action in the surrounds was considerably more enveloping and precise. And I just had to watch the scene again that won so much recognition for its LFE on this thread. Nothing, and I mean nothing, compared to that in the second installment. It was a disappointment in every area in the audio spectrum.

So, that begs the question, "What went wrong?" How in the world could they lower their standards for the sequel?

On a positive note, the PQ was better in every way, with more exquisite details (in beards, clothing, etc.), better texture in the dragons, and amazing photo-realism in shots of the ocean and in a scene with snow in it. Black levels and shadow details also fared better the second time around.
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I agree 100% with both quotes above. I actually put the first installment of How to Train Your Dragon in after watching the sequel and I noticed immediately that the volume was MUCH louder and the action in the surrounds was considerably more enveloping and precise. And I just had to watch the scene again that won so much recognition for its LFE on this thread. Nothing, and I mean nothing, compared to that in the second installment. It was a disappointment in every area in the audio spectrum.
This news just… plain… sucks!

I'm going to go and watch EOT to make myself feel better.
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I agree 100% with both quotes above. I actually put the first installment of How to Train Your Dragon in after watching the sequel and I noticed immediately that the volume was MUCH louder and the action in the surrounds was considerably more enveloping and precise. And I just had to watch the scene again that won so much recognition for its LFE on this thread. Nothing, and I mean nothing, compared to that in the second installment. It was a disappointment in every area in the audio spectrum.

So, that begs the question, "What went wrong?" How in the world could they lower their standards for the sequel?

On a positive note, the PQ was better in every way, with more exquisite details (in beards, clothing, etc.), better texture in the dragons, and amazing photo-realism in shots of the ocean and in a scene with snow in it. Black levels and shadow details also fared better the second time around.
Thanks for the post. Unfortunately, this seems to be the business of home theater. Improve the PQ and make sure not to blow out anyone's speakers. (aka Kung Fu Panda 2, Despicable Me 2, Toy Story 3 and the list grows every year).

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I watched the first half of the movie in the Atmos setting and the second half in the 5.1 to see if I would notice any difference. I feel like the 5.1 sounded a bit better but in either setting I was having a lot of fun with the audio in general and the bass specifically.

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If only they could have matched the visuals of HTTYD2 with some decent sounding audio. Wouldn't even bother owning subs if they all sounded like this. Complete crap. Movie not too bad but not as good as the first (IMO), pity.
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I just gave Elysium a spin again last night. It was an interesting sound track to say the least. Had some really neat bass scenes, but not overwhelming like Godzilla was the night before. I enjoyed it thoroughly, and I feel like there was some pretty deep stuff at times. Has anyone speclabbed some of the big action scenes for elysium?

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I just gave Elysium a spin again last night. It was an interesting sound track to say the least. Had some really neat bass scenes, but not overwhelming like Godzilla was the night before. I enjoyed it thoroughly, and I feel like there was some pretty deep stuff at times. Has anyone speclabbed some of the big action scenes for elysium?
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Well that explains what I experienced. Where gozilla had gobs of stuff above say 30hz and pounded you, Elysium had some killer low stuff. I know on several of the scenes where it was dropping to 10hz and below area that I felt like, "wow, this is really moving things around!" I have a can light in the little bar area that if on, is usually a good indicator of really deep stuff as it starts flexing like crazy. I could hear it a little on a couple different scenes. The part I think I liked most was there were scenes that had ONLY the really low digging stuff with nothing further up the bass spectrum to "cloud" what you were hearing/feeling.

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Well that explains what I experienced. Where gozilla had gobs of stuff above say 30hz and pounded you, Elysium had some killer low stuff. I know on several of the scenes where it was dropping to 10hz and below area that I felt like, "wow, this is really moving things around!" I have a can light in the little bar area that if on, is usually a good indicator of really deep stuff as it starts flexing like crazy. I could hear it a little on a couple different scenes. The part I think I liked most was there were scenes that had ONLY the really low digging stuff with nothing further up the bass spectrum to "cloud" what you were hearing/feeling.
yup and thats why alot of people were complaining about the ULF in this one...there wasnt any of the higher "ported" stuff to accompany it
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I saw Interstellar at the cinema the other day - the only film I've been impressed with there for a while!

Awesome bass, superb dynamics, and also a good movie to boot (although gets slightly weird lol) - I am praying this one is unfiltered when it is released as it should be epic if it is...
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Well that explains what I experienced. Where gozilla had gobs of stuff above say 30hz and pounded you, Elysium had some killer low stuff. I know on several of the scenes where it was dropping to 10hz and below area that I felt like, "wow, this is really moving things around!" I have a can light in the little bar area that if on, is usually a good indicator of really deep stuff as it starts flexing like crazy. I could hear it a little on a couple different scenes. The part I think I liked most was there were scenes that had ONLY the really low digging stuff with nothing further up the bass spectrum to "cloud" what you were hearing/feeling.
Elysium is great. I have watched a few times now. I know what you mean though. I remember a few times the walls were rattling like crazy and I could feel it, but I could not hear anything LOL. I am interested to watch that movie on my ported set up. Certainly a good movie for good sealed subs.
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We watched Maleficent last night. Thumbs up, especially the superb Blu-Ray AQ and PQ. This movie is absolutely gorgeous to look at and great to hear. Lots of effective use of multi-channel surround. I have seen no measurements, but the bass was noticeable and enjoyable, particularly during battle scenes. Not a life changer, but your subs will definitely get some exercise. Overall, we thought the PQ, AQ and special effects in Maleficent are Disney at its modern best. Give it a spin if you're on the edge.

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We watched Maleficent last night. Thumbs up, especially the superb Blu-Ray AQ and PQ. This movie is absolutely gorgeous to look at and great to hear. Lots of effective use of multi-channel surround. I have seen no measurements, but the bass was noticeable and enjoyable, particularly during battle scenes. Not a life changer, but your subs will definitely get some exercise. Overall, we thought the PQ, AQ and special effects in Maleficent are Disney at its modern best. Give it a spin if you're on the edge.
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Well that explains what I experienced. Where gozilla had gobs of stuff above say 30hz and pounded you, Elysium had some killer low stuff. I know on several of the scenes where it was dropping to 10hz and below area that I felt like, "wow, this is really moving things around!" I have a can light in the little bar area that if on, is usually a good indicator of really deep stuff as it starts flexing like crazy. I could hear it a little on a couple different scenes. The part I think I liked most was there were scenes that had ONLY the really low digging stuff with nothing further up the bass spectrum to "cloud" what you were hearing/feeling.
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I think I am going to pick that one up, I just did not want to see that one for some reason, but the reviews are pretty good and looking like a 4 star bass flick. I am so backed up on movies it is nuts. I have like 25 blurays not even opened and like 5 or 6 of them newer releases. I gotta have me a seat for a day.
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I think I am going to pick that one up, I just did not want to see that one for some reason, but the reviews are pretty good and looking like a 4 star bass flick. I am so backed up on movies it is nuts. I have like 25 blurays not even opened and like 5 or 6 of them newer releases. I gotta have me a seat for a day.
Me too but I'm not nearly as far behind as you are... I just got 4 movies on blu-ray two of them 4.5 star and two of them 5 star bass flicks. Now I just need time to watch them.

Definitely going to be looking at Maleficent as well.
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Me too but I'm not nearly as far behind as you are... I just got 4 movies on blu-ray two of them 4.5 star and two of them 5 star bass flicks. Now I just need time to watch them. Definitely going to be looking at Maleficent as well.
It's great to have a stash waiting for attention. We've got a bunch waiting too. Fitting movies in during football season is the best kind of problem to have.
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Haha, yep. I think tonight I am going to revisit Gravity, perhaps watch 47 ronin, but I know nothing about that disc other than it looked kinda cool in the preview. I also want to watch Dredd again, as well as edge of tomorrow all the way through. Too many movies, too little time.

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