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I don't have the ability to graph right now, but a couple of people (Mzkazador and GPBurns) mentioned low-level content down to 1 Hz. I rewatched based on that, and what do you know? Actually does have some content going on down there.
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I don't have the ability to graph right now, but a couple of people (Mzkazador and GPBurns) mentioned low-level content down to 1 Hz. I rewatched based on that, and what do you know? Actually does have some content going on down there.
Well subjectively i disagree in their assessment. If it's shown in graph it HAS to be very low level. But I could be wrong. Have been in the past. But I usually am very good at subjectively telling if there is sub 20hz which is then backed up by graphs

But until I see the spec lab I don't beleive it will have a rating for lower than 20hz. Tons of movies have content to 1hz. But 98% of them it's not detectable because it's so low in level
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I heard the movie was terrible. I realize the bass is insane....
If what you realize is that the bass is insane, then you know the movie can't be terrible, in fact quite the opposite. Just applying logic here, have not seen (heard) the movie, but sounds like it is great. Story acting and dialogue might suck (wouldn't know), but movie itself I expect I will find to be quite glorious.
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If what you realize is that the bass is insane, then you know the movie can't be terrible, in fact quite the opposite. Just applying logic here, have not seen (heard) the movie, but sounds like it is great. Story acting and dialogue might suck (wouldn't know), but movie itself I expect I will find to be quite glorious.
The movie can't decide if it wants to be serious or funny. And the villain is awful! But for a fun 2 hours of entertainment. I enjoyed it thoroughly. Sound and visuals are outstanding
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Well subjectively i disagree in their assessment. If it's shown in graph it HAS to be very low level. But I could be wrong. Have been in the past. But I usually am very good at subjectively telling if there is sub 20hz which is then backed up by graphs

But until I see the spec lab I don't beleive it will have a rating for lower than 20hz. Tons of movies have content to 1hz. But 98% of them it's not detectable because it's so low in level
I'm sure we'll see soon enough...
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It's not schindlers list. But for me it was very enjoyable. But it's all subjective. I turned off Foxcatcher after an hour because I thought it was god awful (I never turn off movies early)

I've watched JA twice. So...
Boy am I glad I saw your comment on Foxcatcher. I've been considering watching it but something about it has kept me away. Now I'm glad to know my instincts were most likely right. I tend to like similar movies to you from what I can see through posts on AVS so I'll happily avoid that movie.
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If what you realize is that the bass is insane, then you know the movie can't be terrible, in fact quite the opposite. Just applying logic here, have not seen (heard) the movie, but sounds like it is great. Story acting and dialogue might suck (wouldn't know), but THE SOUNDTRACK itself I expect I will find to be quite glorious.
Fixed that for ya.
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Boy am I glad I saw your comment on Foxcatcher. I've been considering watching it but something about it has kept me away. Now I'm glad to know my instincts were most likely right. I tend to like similar movies to you from what I can see through posts on AVS so I'll happily avoid that movie.
I enjoyed Foxcatcher....but with movies being "subjective" and all, I can totally understand how it might not be everybody's cup-o-tea (esp. in this thread ). However, there is no denying the great acting in that film...it's a very "brooding" film with a "slow-burn" leading up to the stunning climax.

Steve Carrell's character was just soooo creepy.
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I enjoyed Foxcatcher....but with movies being "subjective" and all, I can totally understand how it might not be everybody's cup-o-tea (esp. in this thread ). However, there is no denying the great acting in that film...it's a very "brooding" film with a "slow-burn" leading up to the stunning climax.

Steve Carrell's character was just soooo creepy.
Agreed. I really enjoyed Foxcatcher. Steve Carrell did an excellent job I thought.
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Agreed. I really enjoyed Foxcatcher. Steve Carrell did an excellent job I thought.
I can't stand movies that have no score

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True Detective didn't really get going till the 4th episode but that was an awesome series loved it! Strike Back is probably my favorite series Ive ever watched still waiting on last season to come out, and Dare Devil was right up there this was one I could binge watch for hours,lol!
Hehehe, i feel like an ass disliking a tv show after one episode. Watched episode 2 last night and it felt so much better. I'll actually risk it and say that i started enjoying it! Still a bit too long for its own good! Wish they had it trimmed down to 40-45mins instead of the 60mins!

Anyone knows who that girl is that the family man (forgot his name) went to visit with the handcuffs? My god was she hot!!!
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I can't stand movies that have no soundtrack
For me, that's what made the acting even more impressive as it was forced to carry all the emotional weight.
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For me, that's what made the acting even more impressive as it was forced to carry all the emotional weight.
Yeah for me the acting and characters made zero connection to me. I thought they were very boring and lifeless.
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Or the non-Subjective comparison. Where there really is none (from data-bass.com)

Jupiter ascending:
http://data-bass.ipbhost.com/index.p...ge-2#entry8840

Interstellar:
http://data-bass.ipbhost.com/index.p...n-poll-closed/
Brian, there must be something missing in your links because we can't access them. ...Something incomplete, or a typo...?

* EDIT: This is very strange: Now that I quoted you I can access both links, but not from your original post.
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I don't have the ability to graph right now, but a couple of people (Mzkazador and GPBurns) mentioned low-level content down to 1 Hz. I rewatched based on that, and what do you know? Actually does have some content going on down there.
'Chappie' ... with low frequency extension down to 1Hz !!! ...And from what I'm reading here the movie is also great, according to many chaps.

I definitely need new subs, that can play down low dirty below 1Hz. ...Are those expensive to build yourself?
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'Chappie' ... with low frequency extension down to 1Hz !!! ...And from what I'm reading here the movie is also great, according to many chaps.

I definitely need new subs, that can play down low dirty below 1Hz. ...Are those expensive to build yourself?
You aren't going to get subs that play quite that low. As far as commercially available subs, the best for deep playback is Bossobass' offerings, but those aren't cheap. If you do DIY subs, you can definitely get to ~5Hz, but that depends largely on the electronics (source, receiver, amps, etc) and the acoustics of the room. But there's always a tradeoff. To get USABLE output that low, you have to have multiple subs, lots of power. Another option would be good transducers, like Crowsons and to a lesser extent, the full-sized Buttkickers.
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I have Jupiter Ascending but I haven't watched it since I setup my HT room in my new home. Looks like I might have to give it a spin soon!
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Tons of movies have content to 1hz. But 98% of them it's not detectable because it's so low in level
Ok, not many subs can reproduce that kind of content, but some do. And if tons of film mixers put 1Hz content in tons of movies, then it is to be reproduced or they wouldn't bother, right?

The movies have low content; it's up to us to go that low. ...Down to one Hertz, and even below...a fraction of one Hertz.

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Ok, not many subs can reproduce that kind of content, but some do. And if tons of film mixers put 1Hz content in tons of movies, then it is to be reproduced or they wouldn't bother, right?

The movies have low content; it's up to us to go that low. ...Down to one Hertz, and even below...a fraction of one Hertz.

* Bass me up Scotty.
No subs can go that low

It's not that mixers PUT the 1 HZstuff in there. It's mostly digital noise. And stuff they don't even know is there.
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It's interesting; I read all the comments about all those films...the value of the films themselves, their bass content, etc. ...
...and for me there is only two best movies: 1. Mad Max: Fury Road ...and 2. Birdman (the drum music is great) ... and I'll add a third one... 3. Interstellar.

* I got to see 'Chappie' though ... but from Ralph's review (who I trust on average @ 99%) I did not bother to purchase the Blu.
But now, with 1Hz content, I need first subwoofers that can give it to me, and then buy the Blu. ...Yeah Chappie baby!
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For those who have seen both, which film is better overall for bass in your opinion between JA and John Wick? Going to double feature these Thurs night and want to save the best bass film for last.
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For those who have seen both, which film is better overall for bass in your opinion between JA and John Wick? Going to double feature these Thurs night and want to save the best bass film for last.
I'd say JA, personally.
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No subs can go that low

It's not that mixers PUT the 1 HZstuff in there. It's mostly digital noise. And stuff they don't even know is there.
Ok, digital noise...I want no part of it...don't want to reproduce that @ home from my modest rig...that's fo sur.
And on top of that if the film mixers don't even know it's there ... then I don;t wanna know either.

But I'm very curious Brian; what is the percentage of say Blu-ray movie releases where film mixers put very low content in them?
And, how precisely low is that sub frequency content (subterranean bass) that they know for certain they put in there?
Last, why some film mixers start to roll off the bass heavily around 30Hz and by the time it hits 25Hz we only get less than a pouf (small fart)?
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Hehehe, i feel like an ass disliking a tv show after one episode. Watched episode 2 last night and it felt so much better. I'll actually risk it and say that i started enjoying it! Still a bit too long for its own good! Wish they had it trimmed down to 40-45mins instead of the 60mins!

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I heard from a guy that has the 1st 4 episodes on screeners, he didn't think much of Ep. 1 but he said 3 and 4 are much better
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I got some CDs @ home with low subterranean bass down to 18Hz, 15Hz, 12Hz, 10Hz, 5Hz, 4Hz, and even down to 3Hz! ...Some Bass demo CDs...you know..."Sex is the Bass" and some Telarc music score demos, and that type of stuff like that, with big sub drivers on the front cover and a very sexy girl with great attributes...from top to bottom.

My subs don't play that low (they're good down to about 35Hz ...Def Tech), but when I play them CDs my subs are sweating a lot because the amp plates in the back are burning!
And the front of the drivers are choking!
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For those who have seen both, which film is better overall for bass in your opinion between JA and John Wick? Going to double feature these Thurs night and want to save the best bass film for last.
Toe, from my own rig @ home; 'Jupiter Ascending'. ...More powerful overall...beats those little guns.
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Ok, digital noise...I want no part of it...don't want to reproduce that @ home from my modest rig...that's fo sur.
And on top of that if the film mixers don't even know it's there ... then I don;t wanna know either.

But I'm very curious Brian; what is the percentage of say Blu-ray movie releases where film mixers put very low content in them?
And, how precisely low is that sub frequency content (subterranean bass) that they know for certain they put in there?
Last, why some film mixers start to roll off the bass heavily around 30Hz and by the time it hits 25Hz we only get less than a pouf (small fart)?
As I said film mixers neither add content nor filter content out.

As for your questions I have no idea you can always go to data-bass.com and count the ones that they have measured.

And as @FilmMixer on here as he mixes films for a living

And as your subs only going to 35hz explains a lot why you liked interstellar vs JA.
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I heard from a guy that has the 1st 4 episodes on screeners, he didn't think much of Ep. 1 but he said 3 and 4 are much better
I think you maybe referring to the screeners for season 2? I was actually talking about season 1.
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Yup, I was referring to season 2. Season 1 was great, enjoy!
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As I said film mixers neither add content nor filter content out.
As for your questions I have no idea you can always go to data-bass.com and count the ones that they have measured.
And as @FilmMixer on here as he mixes films for a living

And as your subs only going to 35hz explains a lot why you liked interstellar vs JA.
Hey, I'm going to repeat what I said before; "I am not worthy". ...Anyone that cannot get clean 16Hz or so (8Hz much more preferable) shouldn't be watching Blu-ray movies the way I do.

It's all good Brian; I don't feel that 'low'. ...And as long that I am allowed to post my opinion here I am very happy. ...Like Chappie.
And my rig (soundbar under my CRT tube 19" B&W TV) sounds great!
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