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Saw Deadpool last night in the local IMAX. Great movie first off....BUT don't mistake this for a kiddie movie. NOT a family friendly one at all. Funny flick though and let's just say that i pray they don't jack this one up on the transfer. Even at the IMAX you could feel the bass in this one. Totally crossing my fingers for the future...
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Just finished watching Creed and the movie is really good! It also had some really loud ULF and I am really curious to see what a chart would say about that.
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Just watched the Martian last night...really enjoyed that movie!

Great full bandwidth movie...one of my favorite things is when sound designer uses ULF to build suspense. It's for the most part silent, but you have this wobble sensation occurring, and associated 'weight'. Oblivion has done this in several scenes, TIH, and hunger games 1, among others.

Sign up Martian for this too! Great use of ULF to build suspense...when ULF is used like this, IMO it's as impressive (or even more impressive) than your typical explosions, warp drives, monster stomps, gun shots, etc.

Really mixed perfect with the theme of the movie!
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I agree Dom, I am impressed as much with the low stuff as I am with the much easier to produce 30hz stuff. Of course when they are combined it is just awesome.
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Saw Deadpool last night in the local IMAX. Great movie first off....BUT don't mistake this for a kiddie movie. NOT a family friendly one at all. Funny flick though and let's just say that i pray they don't jack this one up on the transfer. Even at the IMAX you could feel the bass in this one. Totally crossing my fingers for the future...
Yes - loved it.
Lots of mid bass slam at my local Imax -
sound is usually pretty crappy there so promising for the home release - will join you in finger crossing.

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Just watched the Martian last night...really enjoyed that movie!

Great full bandwidth movie...one of my favorite things is when sound designer uses ULF to build suspense. It's for the most part silent, but you have this wobble sensation occurring, and associated 'weight'. Oblivion has done this in several scenes, TIH, and hunger games 1, among others.

Sign up Martian for this too! Great use of ULF to build suspense...when ULF is used like this, IMO it's as impressive (or even more impressive) than your typical explosions, warp drives, monster stomps, gun shots, etc.

Really mixed perfect with the theme of the movie!
Yep…I agree... I really really enjoyed this movie. The bass is by no means in your face but its use really enhances the movie wonderfully. The whole movie (audio, story telling, visuals) got me so wrapped up in the story I completely lost track of how long it was. I will definitely be adding this one to my collection some day.

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Kung Fu Panda 3

Just watched Kung Fu Panda 3 today. "Skadoosh" makes a comeback, and there are several potentially good scenes in this movie for Bass Heads. I sure hope they go back to the feel of the first movie, and bring back the the true Chi of the original Skadoosh bass mix!
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Watched The Martian last night and agree with the comments above. Very good movie, great PQ and excellent audio with some well done low end support. Great extension and the bass was used very well to create tension and set a mood. Not a film I will buy probably (not much replay for me even though I enjoyed it), but really enjoyed this rental all around!
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Saw Deadpool last night in the local IMAX. Great movie first off....BUT don't mistake this for a kiddie movie. NOT a family friendly one at all. Funny flick though and let's just say that i pray they don't jack this one up on the transfer. Even at the IMAX you could feel the bass in this one. Totally crossing my fingers for the future...
Deadpool was about as much fun as I have had going to a theater to see anything in a few years. Albeit the two folks sitting beside my wife and I smelled like they woke up and rubbed massive ash trays all over themselves, tossed a flaming pack of smokes in with their clothes to dry, and then proceeded to use dog feces to moisturize their skin. Alas, yet another reason I still hate going to the "Theater." I am back home, have changed clothes, and I can still smell it.

Anyways, bass on deadpool was also the most impressive I have heard in our RPX theater so I too am hoping this one stays true and has a good transfer. The movie itself was just plain awesome. They definitely did win the "R" rating and I for one love it.
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Whoa. This movie instantly put my Crown XLS Drivecore 1500 (Gen 1) into protect fault. I had to engage my high-pass filter at 25Hz just to play it safe, and my 2 x JL Audio 10s' frequency response is only rated down to 25Hz (probably at -10dB, but can't find out for sure). Still they're the lowest frequency transducers I've ever had, but my amp can't handle the subsonic bass in this movie at all.

Turned it off about a minute after the opening credits though. Urgh, not my kind of flick either. Gonna try the new MadMax movie to see if it'll give my subs a good run.

I liked Alien Abduction but then again I like horror flicks ha! I might have to give this another view since I went dual subs to see if my Crown goes into fault. Other than streaming on NF I am curious what the BD would sound like.

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Has there been any graphs on Goosebumps yet? Rented it today for my son. Only had DVD so not a good test but the movie seemed like it would have some good moments. As much as I thought it was going to be terrible it was quite good. Big surprise in watchability. Would like to know if the Blu Ray is worth picking up
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Tom Clancy's the Division- Agent Origins (2016) is a short flick about 30 minutes long, but it's nearly a constant subwoofer assault of low frequencies. Not enough time for lulls. I recommend checking it out for a quick and entertaining pummelling of your subwoofers.

Looks like it's on youtube here:

Although that youtube looks to be in a different order than what I watched, still seems to be the same thing. Weird.
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Watched The Martian last night and agree with the comments above. Very good movie, great PQ and excellent audio with some well done low end support. Great extension and the bass was used very well to create tension and set a mood. Not a film I will buy probably (not much replay for me even though I enjoyed it), but really enjoyed this rental all around!
I suppose my local theater has ported subs

Guess I will need to rent or pick this up when it goes on sale.
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^^^10hz and below suspense building scenes I presume... Awesome caps Shreds...those ULF suspense scenes were very effective!!!
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Guess I will need to rent or pick this up when it goes on sale.
They do...

I went exploring in my local theater one day. Pretty fun actually! I went up into the projector room, actually a projector area because it was like several large hallways with sections for theater equipment. Every projector had a rack for amps, processors, or whatever. The one I went into had a bunch of old movie posters everywhere from all the showing over the years. That was fun to look at too and remember the older movies. There was a bunch or reels everywhere also, and these reels are huge! Probably close to 3' in diameter. Then I went and peaked behind the lower curtain to see the sub, and yes it is a single sub. However, it had two large drivers that were probably 18's from memory, and they were ported. Looked up and saw the the screen was somewhat translucent obviously because it is AT. This was back in '08 or '09 so I am sure things have changed a little bit.

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Saw Deadpool last night in the local IMAX. Great movie first off....BUT don't mistake this for a kiddie movie. NOT a family friendly one at all. Funny flick though and let's just say that i pray they don't jack this one up on the transfer. Even at the IMAX you could feel the bass in this one. Totally crossing my fingers for the future...
Took the wife to see it this weekend. We both laughed a lot as there was some funny lines for sure! She was worried it would be full of kids, but I told her it shouldn't since it was rated R. We both were stunned with the amount of families who brought there kids who looked preteen.

I enjoyed the sound mix, but I have to say I'm ready to watch it again on the home system.
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How many movies actually have 115db peaks?
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Depends how you run your system

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I meant are there any movies with 0db peaks. Trying to figure out how hot I can run it.
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I think the worst case scenario for 5.1 is 125 dB and 7.1 127 dB or something like that at 0dBFs and reference level. There is a thread on Data-bass that analyzes waveforms and shows how close movies are getting this worst case.

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I meant are there any movies with 0db peaks. Trying to figure out how hot I can run it.
I'm interested in this as well. It's been brought up in this thread before, but never really answered well. Alot of the charts/graphs we see show peaks of around -15 to -20 in the bass region. Hard to know if those numbers are accurate with different software used though. I know I'm hitting well above 115dB in room @ reference, but never know what the source material is actually producing.
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We use bass management which adds more spl to the sub. We also most likely run the subs hot. Data-bass shows the spl number for various movies but not sure what that exactly means.

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I'm interested in this as well. It's been brought up in this thread before, but never really answered well. Alot of the charts/graphs we see show peaks of around -15 to -20 in the bass region. Hard to know if those numbers are accurate with different software used though. I know I'm hitting well above 115dB in room @ reference, but never know what the source material is actually producing.

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Ahh, haven't come across that thread before. Thanks Scott, some great info.
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What is worst case scenario? If we had 7 channels at 105db and then one channel at 115, that should be approximately 117.3 db. I believe that only lfe track gets +10, not bass that's crossed over. There is also the fact that the dolby spec only calls for 115dbfs from the subs. Has anyone confirmed that the processor will actually send out 117.3 db as opposed to attenuating to 115?

How am I supposed to derive the dbfs from dbv?
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What is worst case scenario? If we had 7 channels at 105db and then one channel at 115, that should be approximately 117.3 db. I believe that only lfe track gets +10, not bass that's crossed over. There is also the fact that the dolby spec only calls for 115dbfs from the subs. Has anyone confirmed that the processor will actually send out 117.3 db as opposed to attenuating to 115?

How am I supposed to derive the dbfs from dbv?
Hi chad, the relationship between dBFS, dBV and dBSPL are all the same. For example: 10dBV lower on preamp voltage will show the same amount of attenuation in dBSPL on your mic/meter. You can go to my waveform analysis page on DB and pick any sustained movie scene that I list and compare it to the WCS from maxmercy's disc. For example, if you had a fast enough SPL logger you could use HTTYD which is -1.44dB from a WCS and compare that with your system's output. Set your maximum level from there.

As far as what a person's particular processor will cleanly output, well... it seems to be all over the map and largely depends on the relationship between the trim and MVL levels or the design of the bass management firmware. Here is a thread that might shed some light on that for you: http://data-bass.ipbhost.com/index.p...-scope/?p=6339
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Either of you guys happen to hqve both the special edition True HD and original PCM release of Casino Royale? There is some debate about whether these are the same mix or not and it would be great to get them both measured to see one way or the other if either of you guys happen to have these.
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