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even one of the bigger explosions didn't make much impact. full bandwidth or not, if it isn't high enough level to notice it, then what difference does it make?

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@Shreds ,
You wouldn't have any caps for Everly or Tomorrowland would you? I'm trying to add scenes from those and a couple others, but haven't had the chance to watch them yet.
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I have not seen them yet but I saw this one cap for Tomorrowland: http://data-bass.ipbhost.com/index.p...hread/?p=10647
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The New Master List of BASS in Movies with Frequency Charts

The James Bond movie Spectre wasn't a BassFest but it had a few moments of throbbing bass in the beginning and the last act. I thought the film itself was a decent watch as well.
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Point Break

Point Break the remake, not a very good film storywise and terrible acting but good visuals and audio

The sustained bass in the avalanche scene is awesome !

I felt i was there !

definitely a great demo quality scene and it's long too
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Point Break the remake, not a very good film storywise and terrible acting but good visuals and audio

The sustained bass in the avalanche scene is awesome !

I felt i was there !

definitely a great demo quality scene and it's long too
Yep, just watched that, the avalanche scene was pretty serious.
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just watched everest. talk about a depressing movie. the audio was pretty good though on the LFE front. i wouldn't call it demo worthy necessarily, but when the storms were blowing through the audio wrapped you in sound and it presented itself well. the only thing that bugged me audio-wise was the dialogue. it just seemed like everyone's voice was muffled and mumbled and it made it tough to hear what they were saying at times. part of it was due to the story and i can understand why they wouldn't articulate well, but it just seems like the mix focused on all the surrounding noises and everything else got mushed in there. and yes, i have a more than capable center channel that i don't have issues with this sort of thing.
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Point Break the remake, not a very good film storywise and terrible acting but good visuals and audio

The sustained bass in the avalanche scene is awesome !

I felt i was there !

definitely a great demo quality scene and it's long too
Thanks for mentioning this...it sure looks busy!
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i always really like the original point break, and the new one certainly looks super over the top and extreme. doesn't surprise me that it would have a dynamic soundtrack. all that action on screen would for sure be a letdown if the audio track didn't support it.
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I too like the OG Point Break but for the thrill of the bass I added it to my NF queue.
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just watched everest. talk about a depressing movie. the audio was pretty good though on the LFE front. i wouldn't call it demo worthy necessarily, but when the storms were blowing through the audio wrapped you in sound and it presented itself well. the only thing that bugged me audio-wise was the dialogue. it just seemed like everyone's voice was muffled and mumbled and it made it tough to hear what they were saying at times. part of it was due to the story and i can understand why they wouldn't articulate well, but it just seems like the mix focused on all the surrounding noises and everything else got mushed in there. and yes, i have a more than capable center channel that i don't have issues with this sort of thing.
Watched this over the weekend in Atmos and thought it was brilliant during the storm. Bass was awesome and the heights were used very well. I didn't have any issue with dialogue listening at -14db (as loud as I could go at the time).
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The New Master List of BASS in Movies with Frequency Charts

Watched Goosebumps today at -10 and it had some good lfe moments. Fun movie too.

Did this get graphed? Didn't see anything at databass

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i always really like the original point break, and the new one certainly looks super over the top and extreme. doesn't surprise me that it would have a dynamic soundtrack. all that action on screen would for sure be a letdown if the audio track didn't support it.
I wasn't impressed by it. The rockslide was interesting, otherwise meh.
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Isn't Point Break (2015) in Atmos? Why is the graph in 7.1?
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Spectre
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0:46:30

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2:13:40

2:15:22

See waveform analysis here: http://data-bass.ipb...movies/?p=12704
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I watched a couple of Hong Kong movies the last week, SPL 2 and Ip man 1 and 2

The bass during fight scenes is actually pretty cool
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Spectre
DTS-HD MA 7.1

0:05:56

0:46:30

1:13:12

1:34:20

1:55:55

1:57:05

2:13:40

2:15:22

See waveform analysis here: http://data-bass.ipb...movies/?p=12704

What do you define wcs as in db?
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WCS: worst case scenario. This is with regard to the sub output after all 7 channels of re-directed bass are summed.

http://data-bass.ipbhost.com/index.p...movies/?p=7982

You can see here under WotW the WCS test. I figure out the highest peak in each movie and how far from the WCS it is in dBV. So far HTTYD is the closest I've measured at -1.44dB. I do this test to basically help you guys understand how hot the bass track is encoded on the movies I measure. And for those who are experienced in looking at waveforms you can see how dynamic the bass is mixed.
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WCS: worst case scenario. This is with regard to the sub output after all 7 channels of re-directed bass are summed.

http://data-bass.ipbhost.com/index.p...movies/?p=7982

You can see here under WotW the WCS test. I figure out the highest peak in each movie and how far from the WCS it is in dBV. So far HTTYD is the closest I've measured at -1.44dB. I do this test to basically help you guys understand how hot the bass track is encoded on the movies I measure. And for those who are experienced in looking at waveforms you can see how dynamic the bass is mixed.
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re-watched it tonight with my new Yamaha RX-A3050 setup
with the TrueHD 5.1 track expanded to 7.4.4 using DSU.

Just Awesome!
HTTYD is one of my favorite animated bass movies, along with "9." The kids and wife love the movies too, but for different reasons.
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The wife and I watched Inside Out and really enjoyed it. Couldn't really turn it up past -25 since my boy was sleeping. Didn't seem like there was anything real significant bass wise, but good a/v for sure. Hard to tell much at that level when I usually watch at -15 or -10.


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WCS: worst case scenario. This is with regard to the sub output after all 7 channels of re-directed bass are summed.

http://data-bass.ipbhost.com/index.p...movies/?p=7982

You can see here under WotW the WCS test. I figure out the highest peak in each movie and how far from the WCS it is in dBV. So far HTTYD is the closest I've measured at -1.44dB. I do this test to basically help you guys understand how hot the bass track is encoded on the movies I measure. And for those who are experienced in looking at waveforms you can see how dynamic the bass is mixed.
-1.44db from what? Clipping the output? What's that about 123db or so?
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-1.44db from what? Clipping the output? What's that about 123db or so?
-1.44dB from a 0dBfs signal, with all channels summed to the LFE channel. Assuming you run dead flat, that's right at 126dB

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-1.44dB from a 0dBfs signal, with all channels summed to the LFE channel. Assuming you run dead flat, that's right at 126dB
That's what I thought. That's outside dolby spec which requires theaters to only get to 115 so I don't know why they do it. I'm pretty sure I'd clip the input on my minidsp that way.
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That's what I thought. That's outside dolby spec which requires theaters to only get to 115 so I don't know why they do it. I'm pretty sure I'd clip the input on my minidsp that way.
It is not outside dolby spec at all. Yes the LFE channel on its own only needs 115dB peaks, but when you redirect bass from other channels, that signal sums to the required output of the LFE, it doesn't just disappear. You have to account for that assuming all surround speakers and mains are not full range.
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It is not outside dolby spec at all. Yes the LFE channel on its own only needs 115dB peaks, but when you redirect bass from other channels, that signal sums to the required output of the LFE, it doesn't just disappear. You have to account for that assuming all surround speakers and mains are not full range.
You are correct. The dolby spec calls for the lfe subwoofer to be only +10, but I didn't realize that it didn't call for bass management on the LCR channels.
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-1.44dB from a 0dBfs signal, with all channels summed to the LFE channel. Assuming you run dead flat, that's right at 126dB
If Beast worked for Dolby, I'd watch commercial cinema .
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Sooo, star wars? Any nice lfe?
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Just finished watching Creed and the movie is really good! It also had some really loud ULF and I am really curious to see what a chart would say about that.

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I was going to post the same thing lol...... Hopefully someone can do it 😉

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