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You would need to specify the playback platform. i.e. iirc the oppo's support iso on a thumb drive. Just about any modern computer can play m2ts files from a flash drive. But if the PC is hooked up to your display, that negates the need for a flash drive.
Some displays can play content from a usb, like my Sammy. But ymmv. If the Atmos clips you mentioned work on your system then the demo disc content should work the same.

Thanks for responding. I play the Atmos clips via my Oppo 105D's usb port on the front panel. So I would download the demo disc files onto my computer hard drive and then copy them onto my flash drive for playing on my Oppo. OK buddy, thanks again (I thought I was missing a step somewhere, not very familiar with the torrent process but have been reading up on it). Really interested in running this on my system....should be lots of fun, and thanks for putting it together in the first place. God Bless
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Thanks for responding. I play the Atmos clips via my Oppo 105D's usb port on the front panel. So I would download the demo disc files onto my computer hard drive and then copy them onto my flash drive for playing on my Oppo. OK buddy, thanks again (I thought I was missing a step somewhere, not very familiar with the torrent process but have been reading up on it). Really interested in running this on my system....should be lots of fun, and thanks for putting it together in the first place. God Bless
Would a 128GB flash drive be large enough to fit a good amount of demo content?
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Would a 128GB flash drive be large enough to fit a good amount of demo content?
Well, you could fit Vol 2-4 of the Ultimate Bass Demo Disc on there (102GB). Would you call that a "good" amount?
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Well, you could fit Vol 2-4 of the Ultimate Bass Demo Disc on there (102GB). Would you call that a "good" amount?
Oh man! Not really - I would Ideally like to have all of the Bass Demo Disc + Scubasteve's V2 demo disc on it at once - how many GBs you think I'm looking at?
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Would a 128GB flash drive be large enough to fit a good amount of demo content?

Yes....I believe so. I have my Atmos clips (about ten clips in all - perhaps about 20 minutes worth of audio/video) on a 32GB drive and still have room to spare.
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Oh man! Not really - I would Ideally like to have all of the Bass Demo Disc + Scubasteve's V2 demo disc on it at once - how many GBs you think I'm looking at?
All of those together is about 190GB.

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Have you considered setting up a NAS for streaming this sort of thing...along with your movies and music and photos? It sort of changed my life when I finally did it.
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Oh man! Not really - I would Ideally like to have all of the Bass Demo Disc + Scubasteve's V2 demo disc on it at once - how many GBs you think I'm looking at?
Amazon.com has some good deals today on large capacity flash drives. Give it a look. Good luck.
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All of those together is about 190GB.

You're going to need a BIGGER BOAT!





Have you considered setting up a NAS for streaming this sort of thing...along with your movies and music and photos? It sort of changed my life when I finally did it.
Well I have an apple TV 4 hooked up to my AVR that already contains all of my music, movies, and photos - its just that the streams coming from there are compressed, so now I'm not sure I'm getting the best experience - so lately I've been using the actual blue-ray disks. This is something I've actually been looking to research on the forums a bit (how much quality loss in sound do you get when streaming through iTunes via Apple TV?)

I guess if the answer is a lot - I could setup a NAS. Did you rip all of your blue-rays onto your NAS?
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Amazon.com has some good deals today on large capacity flash drives. Give it a look. Good luck.
I can't find a flash drive on Amazon for under $55 that's USB 3.0 and 256GB - can you? The 128GB was $23. I ordered this one earlier today - I'll just use the 128GB for now and just put the best of the demo content on there.
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Didn't add much to the story but it made the movie make sense... As the theatrical was edited poorly. None the less... The extended cut was too long... And they could of done a better job with the theatrical cut

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Dang you out of US people that get all the movies before we do Haha. Does the 4K disc have the extended cut on it or the theatrical? Anyone know yet?

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Well I have an apple TV 4 hooked up to my AVR that already contains all of my music, movies, and photos - its just that the streams coming from there are compressed, so now I'm not sure I'm getting the best experience - so lately I've been using the actual blue-ray disks. This is something I've actually been looking to research on the forums a bit (how much quality loss in sound do you get when streaming through iTunes via Apple TV?)

I guess if the answer is a lot - I could setup a NAS. Did you rip all of your blue-rays onto your NAS?
The answer is not "A lot" when it comes to music. It's actually not even "A little" TBH. Yea yea, you'll get some that say they can hear a difference but I bet blind you would never know

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Batman vs Superman is an absolute beast in the bass department! It really rocked my theater!

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I can't find a flash drive on Amazon for under $55 that's USB 3.0 and 256GB - can you? The 128GB was $23. I ordered this one earlier today - I'll just use the 128GB for now and just put the best of the demo content on there.


Flash is not really a good use of large incompressible files like video. Try for a 2TB 2.5" USB 3 external pocket drive instead. Should be $99 and is small enough to carry around like a phone.
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W (how much quality loss in sound do you get when streaming through iTunes via Apple TV?)
Goes from master audio to DD so like the difference between BR and DVD. For some movies that is a lot, for others not so much.

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Any graphs for Batman v Superman yet? I have it pre-ordered and was wondering how it measured before it arrived. By all accounts it seems like it's solid in the bass department. It sounded pretty darn good when I saw it in the theater IMO

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Goes from master audio to DD so like the difference between BR and DVD. For some movies that is a lot, for others not so much.
DD is 5.1 right? So since im running 5.1 system with front heights using DD PLIIz there would be no difference for me right?
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I might have missed it - did anyone graph Kung Fu Panda 3?
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I might have missed it - did anyone graph Kung Fu Panda 3?
Yep and it's filtered to hell.....

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DD is 5.1 right? So since im running 5.1 system with front heights using DD PLIIz there would be no difference for me right?
No difference in the channels you are using, but the sound quality itself.........
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allegiant seemed to have pretty good bass...curious to see its graph...very good atmos too

super cheesey movie though
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No difference in the channels you are using, but the sound quality itself.........
Ah I see - even 5.1 from a Dolby Digital TrueHD is better than 5.1 from regular Dolby Digital?
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Ah I see - even 5.1 from a Dolby Digital TrueHD is better than 5.1 from regular Dolby Digital?
Theoretically...whether or not you can tell the difference is what matters.

Dolby Digital = 1.7mbps
True HD = 18mbps
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Theoretically...whether or not you can tell the difference is what matters.

Dolby Digital = 1.7mbps
True HD = 18mbps
Along these same lines, I see when playing a blueray through my PS3 that it is outputting DTS-HD MA 7.1 uncompressed as PCM to the receiver. PS3 tells me what it's uncompressing on their UI. Even though I have my receiver set to Front Heights (so technically 5.1 + PLIIz), PS3 still says 7.1 is being uncompressed and sent to the receiver. So what's happening in this case?
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Along these same lines, I see when playing a blueray through my PS3 that it is outputting DTS-HD MA 7.1 uncompressed as PCM to the receiver. PS3 tells me what it's uncompressing on their UI. Even though I have my receiver set to Front Heights (so technically 5.1 + PLIIz), PS3 still says 7.1 is being uncompressed and sent to the receiver. So what's happening in this case?
The rear channels are matrixed into the side surrounds. You're not missing any sound, just the extra separation that actual physical rear speakers provide.
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The rear channels are matrixed into the side surrounds. You're not missing any sound, just the extra separation that actual physical rear speakers provide.


So when I have the front heights turned on your saying it's also sending sound to the rears by splitting the surrounds? I don't think so because the receiver can only do front heights or surrounds. I'm guessing it's either mixing the rear channels into the surrounds or dropping them out.

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So when I have the front heights turned on your saying it's also sending sound to the rears by splitting the surrounds? I don't think so because the receiver can only do front heights or surrounds. I'm guessing it's either mixing the rear channels into the surrounds or dropping them out.
No.

The content of the front height speakers is matrixed from the FL/FR/CC speakers. While using front heights, the discrete content that would have been sent to the rears is matrixed into the side surrounds.

Hopefully that's more clear than how I explained it before.
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The content of the front height speakers is matrixed from the FL/FR/CC speakers. While using front heights, the discrete content that would have been sent to the rears is matrixed into the side surrounds.



Hopefully that's more clear than how I explained it before.


Yup got it. Thanks! Watched the Incredible Hulk today. Holy moly it was awesome. (Obviously the sound not the movie)

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Batman Vs Superman.... Holy ****! What a soundtrack!!! Absolute beast!
Just finished watching BvS (Theatrical Cut) and thought the SQ was pretty good overall, but laughably the most powerful ULF bass moment in the whole movie was when Lois Lane was trapped underwater and was pounding on the piece of stone. Every time she hits it with her little fists, there is a comically massive bass blast! Not even Doomsday could manage to top her!

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I've read it's the Extended Cut or go home. Like the ext. cut is mucho superior, and the theatrical is just a fart. ...Movie wise...Batman v Superman.

But those two comics (super heroes); when they punch each other it must hurt, and make low noises in the bass department, no.
Is it true that the ext. cut is only on the UHD 4K version (BD 100 - first time I believe)?

Maybe not (it don't say 182 mins anywhere): http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Batman...lu-ray/130491/

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Watched the Incredible Hulk last night. Holy crap is there some bass in that movie. Too bad i was bored to tears! I don't know why it's so hard to come up with a good Hulk script.
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They did, it was called the Avengers, just without the bass.
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