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TDX 8 inch downfiring subwoofer.

TDX 12 inch downfiring Subwoofer

TDX 10 inch downfiring subwoofer

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TDX 8 inch downfiring subwoofer.

TDX 12 inch downfiring Subwoofer

TDX 10 inch downfiring subwoofer

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...oofer&_sacat=0

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That's a new one on me, I've never heard of TDX. Do you happen to know what the manufacturers website is? I can't find them doing a search of the interwebs. A few years ago I decided that if a company only had resellers, and not their own internet presence, I wouldn't add them to the list (it's the 3/3/16 update in the first post). There were too many fly-by-night outfits coming and going so to try and minimize anyone's exposure to a potential issue I stopped including companies who weren't upfront with who they were.
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That's a new one on me, I've never heard of TDX. Do you happen to know what the manufacturers website is? I can't find them doing a search of the interwebs. A few years ago I decided that if a company only had resellers, and not their own internet presence, I wouldn't add them to the list (it's the 3/3/16 update in the first post). There were too many fly-by-night outfits coming and going so to try and minimize anyone's exposure to a potential issue I stopped including companies who weren't upfront with who they were.

i think this is the company
https://teledataexpress.com/

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i think this is the company
https://teledataexpress.com/
I saw that as well, and it makes sense - TDX subs and a company called TeleData eXpress - but they have so much stuff I began to wonder if they were just a reseller for other companies. Either way it seems close enough to me so I'll add them. Thanks for the find.

 
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Added
TeleData Express subwoofers
JBL Stage A100P

Removed
Emotiva BasX8, BasX10 (discontinued)
Infinity PS38, PS410 (discontinued)
Jamo SUB 210 (discontinued)
JBL Arena Sub 100P (discontinued)
Martin Logan Dynamo 300 (discontinued)
Orb subMINI (over $300 now)
Paradigm PDR80 (discontinued)
Outlaw Audio M8 (over $300 now)
Pinnacle SubSonix 10-200 (discontinued)
Pinnacle AC Sub 125 (discontinued)
Polk PSW111 (discontinued)
Yamaha YST-SW012 (discontinued)

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Acoustic Audio (new URL)
Boston Acoustic CS Sub10 II (new URL)
Jamo J 10 SUB, J 12 SUB (new URL)
Theater Solutions (new URL)

 
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Added
TeleData Express subwoofers
JBL Stage A100P

Removed
Emotiva BasX8, BasX10 (discontinued)
Infinity PS38, PS410 (discontinued)
Jamo SUB 210 (discontinued)
JBL Arena Sub 100P (discontinued)
Martin Logan Dynamo 300 (discontinued)
Orb subMINI (over $300 now)
Paradigm PDR80 (discontinued)
Outlaw Audio M8 (over $300 now)
Pinnacle SubSonix 10-200 (discontinued)
Pinnacle AC Sub 125 (discontinued)
Polk PSW111 (discontinued)
Yamaha YST-SW012 (discontinued)

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Acoustic Audio (new URL)
Boston Acoustic CS Sub10 II (new URL)
Jamo J 10 SUB, J 12 SUB (new URL)
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Hello Jim,

Thank you for all the work you do in this space, it's much appreciated. Now that you have added a few more choices, I'm wondering which sub you consider to be the best bang for the buck? I see that some days back you suggested the BIC PL200 II, is this still the case? I'm asking for my brother in law who has a Home theater that is in need of two subs. The room is 19X14x8.5ft (LXWXH). He is using the Budget Pioneer 5.1 system designed by Andrew jones, so he has one SW-8MKII which is paired with an old Polk sub that is breaking up badly. He is considering just getting another one of the SW-8MKII subs, to put the Polk to rest, but I'm suggesting getting a pair that could dig a little deeper (into the 20's HZ) with a little more headroom. The SW-8MKII does sound good, but he could use a little more.

would love to hear back from you.
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Thank you for all the work you do in this space, it's much appreciated.
You're quite welcome, I'm glad the list has proven beneficial.

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Now that you have added a few more choices, I'm wondering which sub you consider to be the best bang for the buck? I see that some days back you suggested the BIC PL200 II, is this still the case? I'm asking for my brother in law who has a Home theater that is in need of two subs. The room is 19X14x8.5ft (LXWXH). He is using the Budget Pioneer 5.1 system designed by Andrew jones, so he has one SW-8MKII which is paired with an old Polk sub that is breaking up badly. He is considering just getting another one of the SW-8MKII subs, to put the Polk to rest, but I'm suggesting getting a pair that could dig a little deeper (into the 20's HZ) with a little more headroom. The SW-8MKII does sound good, but he could use a little more.
Best bang for the buck is still likely the Dayton SUB-1200. For the cost it's really hard to beat. The BIC PL-200 has better sound quality though, and more output, but it costs over twice what the Dayton does. It all depends upon what your brother-in-law is looking to achieve, and what his budget is of course. If he's a bit less particular the SUB-1200 is almost unrivaled for the price, but if he's looking to up the quality as well as the output the PL-200 might be a better option.

 
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Best bang for the buck is still likely the Dayton SUB-1200. For the cost it's really hard to beat. The BIC PL-200 has better sound quality though, and more output, but it costs over twice what the Dayton does. It all depends upon what your brother-in-law is looking to achieve, and what his budget is of course. If he's a bit less particular the SUB-1200 is almost unrivaled for the price, but if he's looking to up the quality as well as the output the PL-200 might be a better option.
Just spoke with him he has upped his budget to $1,000 USD, but still needs two subs. He enjoyed a few movies at my home and liked the way the 2 SVS SB12-NSD in my HT performed. So now that the budget has increased, the options open up a bit more. Would love to hear your thoughts on a $500 sub, I was thinking about the SB1000 or the PB1000 from SVS, but I hear the HSU VFT-2 MK5 is also hard to pass up.
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Just spoke with him he has upped his budget to $1,000 USD, but still needs two subs. He enjoyed a few movies at my home and liked the way the 2 SVS SB12-NSD in my HT performed. So now that the budget has increased, the options open up a bit more. Would love to hear your thoughts on a $500 sub, I was thinking about the SB1000 or the PB1000 from SVS, but I hear the HSU VFT-2 MK5 is also hard to pass up.

If his budget is a hard 1K, then I would have him wait until around Thanksgiving, which is when SVS has offered the PB12-NSD for $499.99 the past few years.
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Just spoke with him he has upped his budget to $1,000 USD, but still needs two subs. He enjoyed a few movies at my home and liked the way the 2 SVS SB12-NSD in my HT performed. So now that the budget has increased, the options open up a bit more. Would love to hear your thoughts on a $500 sub, I was thinking about the SB1000 or the PB1000 from SVS, but I hear the HSU VFT-2 MK5 is also hard to pass up.
He will be much happier as the jump from budget sub to $500 price class brings with it noticeable differences.

Given his intended usage I would suggest ported instead of sealed. Your ported choices are all very good, and the one Mix suggested is another contender. To those I would add the RSL SpeedWoofer 10S. That's another solid option in that same price range.
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He will be much happier as the jump from budget sub to $500 price class brings with it noticeable differences.

Given his intended usage I would suggest ported instead of sealed. Your ported choices are all very good, and the one Mix suggested is another contender. To those I would add the RSL SpeedWoofer 10S. That's another solid option in that same price range.
Those recommendations are all very good, thank you, Jim and Mix.

Just out of curiosity, now that Monoprice has introduced their THX Certified Monolith subs both in a ported as well as a more recent sealed version, where does their 10-inch offering (which also has a 500watts RMS amplifier) rank with you guys?
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Just out of curiosity, now that Monoprice has introduced their THX Certified Monolith subs both in a ported as well as a more recent sealed version, where does their 10-inch offering (which also has a 500watts RMS amplifier) rank with you guys?
Amplifier wattage tells little about a subwoofer unless you know a great deal more about a particular product so don't get too hung up on that one specification. It's like comparing cars based upon horsepower alone, it's not possible.

Monoprice has done well with the Monolith line; I just recently posted an eval on the M15-S so I do have experience with the sealed variant at least. There has been reports of some support issues, and their cabinets are quite large relative to the competition, but the Monoliths are certainly worth consideration.
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Those recommendations are all very good, thank you, Jim and Mix.

Just out of curiosity, now that Monoprice has introduced their THX Certified Monolith subs both in a ported as well as a more recent sealed version, where does their 10-inch offering (which also has a 500watts RMS amplifier) rank with you guys?

I have the Monolith THX Select 10" ported sub, two of them actually. I also have a pair of SVS PB-1000's. Both 10" subs are nearly identical in size, but the Monolith is substantially heavier due to the cabinet being made of a more robust HDF, while the SVS is made of the more common MDF. The Monolith driver is also more robust/heavier than what SVS uses in the PB-1000. Unfortunately, the Monolith subs have received a price increase recently, so now the Monolith 10 is $550. The Monolith 10 was actually pretty comparable to the SVS PB12-NSD, which I used to also own two of and them when I also had the Monolith 10. Between the Monolith 10 and the PB12-NSD, I would give the edge to the SVS from my experience with both. They were actually pretty comparable and if you look at their max output numbers, on paper they are very comparable. However, the PB12 handled deeper bass a little better and the 12" driver compared to the 10" driver of the Monolith was no doubt a key factor. The PB-12 had a little more of a "fuller" sound. Port noise was also noticeable in some lower LFE with the Monolith 10 compared to it being less noticeable with the PB12.

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I have the Monolith THX Select 10" ported sub, two of them actually. I also have a pair of SVS PB-1000's. Both 10" subs are nearly identical in size, but the Monolith is substantially heavier due to the cabinet being made of a more robust HDF, while the SVS is made of the more common MDF. The Monolith driver is also more robust/heavier than what SVS uses in the PB-1000. Unfortunately, the Monolith subs have received a price increase recently, so now the Monolith 10 is $550. The Monolith 10 was actually pretty comparable to the SVS PB12-NSD, which I used to also own two of and them when I also had the Monolith 10. Between the Monolith 10 and the PB12-NSD, I would give the edge to the SVS from my experience with both. They were actually pretty comparable and if you look at their max output numbers, on paper they are very comparable. However, the PB12 handled deeper bass a little better and the 12" driver compared to the 10" driver of the Monolith was no doubt a key factor. The PB-12 had a little more of a "fuller" sound. Port noise was also noticeable in some lower LFE with the Monolith 10 compared to it being less noticeable with the PB12.
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With regards to the question about the Sealed version... we were thinking sealed due to the smaller footprint. The plan is to place one sub mid-wall in the front, and the other sub mid-wall in the back, and he is limited in space in the back because he has a second row of seats. So the rear sub can't be too long.
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Recently picked up two Klipsch R-12SWi Wireless subwoofers for my home theater room which is 15 x 20 feet. You have to watch for sales in order to get one for under $300. The first one was purchased on sale at Fry's for $265 shipped and the second from a third party seller on Amazon for $299 shipped. The advantage of course of this model is that they are wireless allowing you to place these anywhere in the room near an electric outlet. The wireless feature works perfectly but because both subwoofers were placed close enough to the receiver I eventually opted for subwoofer cables. The Klipsch R-12SWi may not go as deep as other budget subwoofers (29Hz-120Hz) it nonetheless provides enough bass effect to satisfy in my smallish home theater with oak floors. My other speakers are all Klipsch and my Atmos setup is 5.2.4.

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FREQUENCY RESPONSE 29Hz-120Hz +/-3dB
MAXIMUM ACOUSTIC OUTPUT 116dB
AMPLIFIER All digital
AMPLIFIER POWER 200W / 400W
DRIVE COMPONENTS 12" (30.5 cm) high excursion, IMG, front-firing woofer
ENCLOSURE MATERIAL MDF
ENCLOSURE TYPE Bass Reflex via rear-firing tube port
INPUTS 2.4GHz CD-quality wireless; Line level/LFE RCA jacks
HEIGHT 16" / 40.64 cm (16.5" with feet)
WIDTH 14" / 35.56 cm
DEPTH 18.5" / 47 cm (19.2" with grille)
WEIGHT 33 lbs (15 kg)
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With regards to the question about the Sealed version... we were thinking sealed due to the smaller footprint. The plan is to place one sub mid-wall in the front, and the other sub mid-wall in the back, and he is limited in space in the back because he has a second row of seats. So the rear sub can't be too long.



I'm not the UTFO DJ Mix Master Ice, but that is where my screen name derives from. As far as the size of the two Monolith 10" subs goes, the ported/sealed version is around 3" deeper I think compared to the sealed only model. If that is a factor in the rear of the room, the sub can always be turned sideways, as that won't really matter as far as performance goes. The room is medium sized and the sealed Monolith may do very well running duals. I would still try to accommodate the ported/sealed model, however, as that can be operated both sealed/ported. The price for these two subs is the same, so no $$ savings going with the dedicated sealed model.
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Potential additions to the list after researching some subs:

Premier Acoustic PA-150, PA-120 and PA-10
http://www.premieracoustic.com/produ...red+Subwoofers

The PA-150 is available on Ebay for $250 and Amazon for $299. I haven't seen the others

The Harman Audio site has some refurb subs, HTIB and soundbar kits. Not sure if that counts as regularly available.
https://www.harmanaudio.com/refurbished-home-audio/

I know a number of Infinity/JBL subs had amp problems, but there's a fix posted on these forums.
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/113-s...-pictures.html

Infinity Primus PS410/PS312 for $129/$199 respectively.
JBL SUB 550P avalable for $199
The rest I saw were soundbar or HT kits

accessories4less.com has several refurb models consistently available under $300. Currently
Pioneer SW-8MK2 8" 100W $99.99
Yamaha NS-SW050 8" 100W $99.99
Yamaha NS-SW100 10" 100W $119.99
Boston Acoustics ASW250 10" 250W $199.99
Pioneer SW10 10" 400W $199.99
KEF C4 8" 200W $249.99->$199.99
Definitive Technology PROSUB 1000 10" 750W $299.99
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Thanks for the heads up, it's always helpful when other people identify potential additions. Makes my job easier.


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http://www.premieracoustic.com/produ...red+Subwoofers

The PA-150 is available on Ebay for $250 and Amazon for $299. I haven't seen the others
I discount Fleabay as a pricing example because in a lot of instances the availability is spotty so they're not reliable enough for me to gauge the market price of a product. Obviously Amazon is a different story but when I searched there tonight I couldn't find the PA-150. Did you see it on their website? A PA-150 for $299 is a really good deal.


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The Harman Audio site has some refurb subs, HTIB and soundbar kits. Not sure if that counts as regularly available.

accessories4less.com has several refurb models consistently available under $300.
Refurbs present an interesting challenge for me. On the one hand you have places like A4L that seem to be well liked and have a surprising number of products. On the other hand they seem to be the exception to the rule as most places that offer refurbs are questionable and what they offer is frequently small quantities for very limited amounts of time. I've debated including them in the past but my concern is all my links are to the manufacturers websites and from what I can tell A4L sometimes sells discontinued products so I wouldn't have a link to use.

 
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I discount Fleabay as a pricing example because in a lot of instances the availability is spotty so they're not reliable enough for me to gauge the market price of a product. Obviously Amazon is a different story but when I searched there tonight I couldn't find the PA-150. Did you see it on their website? A PA-150 for $299 is a really good deal.
https://www.amazon.com/Premier-PA-15...dp/B004436EEU/

Amazon search string was "pa-150 subwoofer"
The picture looks like maybe a single item, but the search results said said 20 remaining, so I mentioned it.

I mentioned the ebay price, as I saw more than 1 listing (both from the same seller) listing "more than 10 available" and 39 sold so far between the 2 listings.
In fact, they look like the Amazon seller as well.

Possibly a closeout buy/sell
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Refurbs present an interesting challenge for me. On the one hand you have places like A4L that seem to be well liked and have a surprising number of products. On the other hand they seem to be the exception to the rule as most places that offer refurbs are questionable and what they offer is frequently small quantities for very limited amounts of time. I've debated including them in the past but my concern is all my links are to the manufacturers websites and from what I can tell A4L sometimes sells discontinued products so I wouldn't have a link to use.
Regular availability aside, is this the proper thread to ask opinions about the Infinity Primus PS312 or PS410 subs? The specs look great, and a lot of reviews are along the lines of "sounded great until the amp fried!". I think the amp overheating has been solved, but I'm having trouble finding reviews on those subs. Any pointers or opinions appreciated
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https://www.amazon.com/Premier-PA-15...dp/B004436EEU/

Amazon search string was "pa-150 subwoofer"
The picture looks like maybe a single item, but the search results said said 20 remaining, so I mentioned it.
That is quite likely the worst ad on all of Amazon. Those pictures make it look like what they're selling fell off a truck and rolled down a hill. According to Premier Acoustic Sound Distributors is an authorized dealer but PA may wish to rethink that if the listing they have on Amazon is the best they can do. And speaking of Amazon...

I used a search string of "premier acoustic" and the look-ahead feature actually suggested "premier acoustic PA-150" so I clicked on it. That took me to a page with about a dozen items on it, none of which were even from Premier Acoustic. Looks like Amazon needs to fine tune their search algorithm.

 
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That is quite likely the worst ad on all of Amazon. Those pictures make it look like what they're selling fell off a truck and rolled down a hill. According to Premier Acoustic Sound Distributors is an authorized dealer but PA may wish to rethink that if the listing they have on Amazon is the best they can do. And speaking of Amazon...

I used a search string of "premier acoustic" and the look-ahead feature actually suggested "premier acoustic PA-150" so I clicked on it. That took me to a page with about a dozen items on it, none of which were even from Premier Acoustic. Looks like Amazon needs to fine tune their search algorithm.
I had the same problem with searching, which is why I mentioned the specific string I used.

lol @ worst ad on all of Amazon!
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