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Any thoughts on whether the $219 on Amazon Earthquake CP8 is a worth choice for my non basshead friends?

MSRP and now I see it is $250 on Amazon.

150 watt 8 inch low profile sub that claims a ridiculous 23hz extension but if it hits 28hz nice and clean I might suggest it to them as I don't think they want a black box and they need speaker level inputs.

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I think my advice for $300 is to either see what you can find in the used market and/or just get one sub. I really think you would be better off with one decent sub rather then two crappy subs.


Are you located near any major cities that have a decent Craigslist scene? Subs are expensive to ship, so aftermarket sales are usually pickup only.



For $300, I'll go out on a limb and say the best sub is the BIC Acoustech PL 200 II.


If the JBL Studio 550P goes on sale again for $189 or whatever it was, you should pick up two.


I have no experiance, but the Dayton Audio SUB-1500 would give you a lot of cone area for not alot of money. If they run a good sale, you could pick up two.


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Unfortunately the budget is what it is for now, and the rest of the money I want to spend on my HT setup is going to go towards replacing the rest of the speakers which are aging and in need of upgrades as well. If I'm going to drop an extra $300 on something, it'll be the towers, etc.

So you'd put the Dayton (~$135 with coupons) way above the Polk PSW108 ($100), it seems?
I know neither will compare to my previous subwoofers, but I'm looking to have a little fun with the system on a low budget without ticking off the wifey or taking from the kiddos' toy funds either haha
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I think my advice for $300 is to either see what you can find in the used market and/or just get one sub. I really think you would be better off with one decent sub rather then two crappy subs.

For $300, I'll go out on a limb and say the best sub is the BIC Acoustech PL 200 II.
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A single $300 sub will likely work better in this instance than a pair of $150 subs would. The PL-200 II is a solid product for the price. I reviewed that model about 18 months ago and was pretty impressed with what it could do.
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Unfortunately the budget is what it is for now, and the rest of the money I want to spend on my HT setup is going to go towards replacing the rest of the speakers which are aging and in need of upgrades as well. If I'm going to drop an extra $300 on something, it'll be the towers, etc.

So you'd put the Dayton (~$135 with coupons) way above the Polk PSW108 ($100), it seems?
I know neither will compare to my previous subwoofers, but I'm looking to have a little fun with the system on a low budget without ticking off the wifey or taking from the kiddos' toy funds either haha
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I think my advice for $300 is to either see what you can find in the used market and/or just get one sub. I really think you would be better off with one decent sub rather then two crappy subs.

For $300, I'll go out on a limb and say the best sub is the BIC Acoustech PL 200 II.
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A single $300 sub will likely work better in this instance than a pair of $150 subs would. The PL-200 II is a solid product for the price. I reviewed that model about 18 months ago and was pretty impressed with what it could do.

it sounds like you guys recommend a single sub instead of two subs even for movies? Don't you think the added benefit of having multi-directional base would be better for movies and such since I don't listen to a whole lot of music?
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it sounds like you guys recommend a single sub instead of two subs even for movies? Don't you think the added benefit of having multi-directional base would be better for movies and such since I don't listen to a whole lot of music?

Jim is much more experienced than I, so he can probably answer better, but in my opinion, with a budget of $300 if you went with two, you are looking at $150 subs, and there just aren't many good subs out there that cheap. The 15" Daytons I mentioned look like they might be OK for the price, and the JBL 550p was a good deal on sale while it lasted, but for the most part, you don't get much of a sub for under $300.


You have a pretty big room, so 15's would fit in well, so those Dayton's are worth a look, but they almost seem too good to be true at that price, and you know what they say about things that are too good to be true.



If you live near a major metropolitan area, I still think used is worth a look. You may be able to find a used 12"-15" HSU or SVS in your price range.

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it sounds like you guys recommend a single sub instead of two subs even for movies? Don't you think the added benefit of having multi-directional base would be better for movies and such since I don't listen to a whole lot of music?
Duals can help smooth out overall response but in order to do that you have to be able to measure them and have the freedom to place the subs where they will work the best. Not everyone can do the former or have the option to do the latter. Even if you can measure and place them correctly they're still $150 subwoofers, products at the very bottom of the category. There are some decent offerings in that range - the Dayton SUB 1200 springs to mind - but often people will find they outgrow those products pretty quickly and will upgrade.


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Duals can help smooth out overall response but in order to do that you have to be able to measure them and have the freedom to place the subs where they will work the best. Not everyone can do the former or have the option to do the latter. Even if you can measure and place them correctly they're still $150 subwoofers, products at the very bottom of the category. There are some decent offerings in that range - the Dayton SUB 1200 springs to mind - but often people will find they outgrow those products pretty quickly and will upgrade.




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We're on the same page with that.


Unfortunately as you probably assumed, I wasn't going to go so far as to measure reponses from different placements around the room of the subwoofers. Essentially I had planned to just place them next to my entertainment center between the center and tower speakers. I might be able to locate them into the corners of the room, set far wide of the tv and towers, as another option. But certainly no measuring etc.
If that's the case, seems I'm better off going with a sub to one side between the center and tower, and getting a 12" instead of two 10"s for better bass?


Wednesday is the final day to return the Polks to best buy so hoping to come to a final conclusion before then. I think the wife would balk at a 15" sub so if I trade in the 2-10's, it'd be to get a single 12" (for the forseeable future, at least). Unless a slick deal pops up in the relatively near future (by black friday at the latest), I imagine I'd end up going with a 12" Dayton for $135 as a fall-back plan.
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Unfortunately as you probably assumed, I wasn't going to go so far as to measure reponses from different placements around the room of the subwoofers. Essentially I had planned to just place them next to my entertainment center between the center and tower speakers. I might be able to locate them into the corners of the room, set far wide of the tv and towers, as another option. But certainly no measuring etc.
Your situation isn't uncommon. The forums have a large percentage of users who are very deeply involved in this hobby, probably not representative of the audio buying population in general. People are frequently limited by their budget, placement options and ability to dial everything in. That doesn't preclude you from enjoying your HT though.

I reviewed the SUB-1200 when it first came out and was impressed by what you got for the money. It has gone up since then but it's still a solid bargain so a pair of those would probably work nicely. It's pretty small too, so it's unlikely to cause any issues because of its size.
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Newark Electronics stocks 15" subs for $72 bucks.
20hz-500hz. and 700 watt peak power handling.
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20hz-500hz. and 700 watt peak power handling.

Thanks.

Which amplifiers are recommended to power the passive MCM subs?

https://www.newark.com/mcm-custom-au...8?st=subwoofer

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A PA sub that can reach to 20Hz and costs less than 75 dollars? That's highly optimistic of them.


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Get something powered by unobtainium. You'll need it to get those subwoofers to play 20Hz.
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A PA sub that can reach to 20Hz and costs less than 75 dollars? That's highly optimistic of them.

Get something powered by unobtainium. You'll need it to get those subwoofers to play 20Hz.

Personally, I prefer the "Improcurable" brand of amplifiers.
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BIC Acoustech PL-200 II Subwoofer - Gloss Black, USD 249.00 shipped:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B074131NKS/

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Hello all - I'm looking for thoughts/suggestions for my situation. I currently am hobbling together a 5.1 system on a budget and looking to the future. I just bought a new house and the area where the TV/system will go is large (living area is 20x20x8, but floorplan is open to kitchen and dining, literally a 50x50x8 open area). I have a Klipsch R-12SW and like it, but am wondering if I need a bit more power to fill the space when I go into the large space. I have seen reviews for some really good subs and am wondering - would it be better to go with a second R-12SW or replace it with a bigger, better quality sub? Or add a second similar size sub of higher quality? This is 80% movies, 20% music.

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https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B074131NKS/

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For 90% Movies and 10% music, big difference between the PL-200 and the F12? Or Dayton 1200?
Not looking to shake the house apart since the kiddos will be sleeping, but I'd like to be able to hit the deeper notes without hearing super muddy sounds or worse, no sound at all.
Would be great if it could complement towers with sub-par bass response as well.
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How about the Infinity Reference R10, two of them together? Better off just getting one 12" like those I listed instead?
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For 90% Movies and 10% music, big difference between the PL-200 and the F12? Or Dayton 1200?
Not looking to shake the house apart since the kiddos will be sleeping, but I'd like to be able to hit the deeper notes without hearing super muddy sounds or worse, no sound at all.
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How about the Infinity Reference R10, two of them together? Better off just getting one 12" like those I listed instead?

2 R10s will give you plenty of mid-bass. But the R10 is rated to 31 Hz. The 12" subs are rated to 21 Hz (PL-200 II), and 25 Hz (F12 and SUB-1200).

What about 1 R10, and 1 12" sub?

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http://bicamerica.com/showpage.php?b...e=8&spkrID=145

http://bicamerica.com/showpage.php?b...pe=8&spkrID=84

http://www.daytonaudio.com/index.php...subwoofer.html

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Hello all - I'm looking for thoughts/suggestions for my situation. I currently am hobbling together a 5.1 system on a budget and looking to the future. I just bought a new house and the area where the TV/system will go is large (living area is 20x20x8, but floorplan is open to kitchen and dining, literally a 50x50x8 open area). I have a Klipsch R-12SW and like it, but am wondering if I need a bit more power to fill the space when I go into the large space. I have seen reviews for some really good subs and am wondering - would it be better to go with a second R-12SW or replace it with a bigger, better quality sub? Or add a second similar size sub of higher quality? This is 80% movies, 20% music.

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Gross volume: <20,000 cu. ft. ∴ add a second sub.

For comparison: I have two subs, and I have a ~1/10 the space (~2,000 cu. ft.) to fill.
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Gross volume: <20,000 cu. ft. ∴ add a second sub.

For comparison: I have two subs, and I have a ~1/10 the space (~2,000 cu. ft.) to fill.
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That's an awful lot of space. You can ameliorate the situation to some extent with proximity - move the sub real close to where you're sitting - but even that will likely prove futile. A single 18" ported is probably the minimum in this case.
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That's an awful lot of space. You can ameliorate the situation to some extent with proximity - move the sub real close to where you're sitting - but even that will likely prove futile. A single 18" ported is probably the minimum in this case.
I see you are quite informed and a great resource for subs. I am in process of looking for a 'budget' woofer to add to my system. Pioneer x2400 receiver and while I was debating the RSL Speedwoofer for $400, is there something you would recommend in the $300 range that could get me nearly the quality and performance of this sub or is the $100 extra well spent for the RSL?
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I see you are quite informed and a great resource for subs. I am in process of looking for a 'budget' woofer to add to my system. Pioneer x2400 receiver and while I was debating the RSL Speedwoofer for $400, is there something you would recommend in the $300 range that could get me nearly the quality and performance of this sub or is the $100 extra well spent for the RSL?
It depends upon what you're looking to achieve and how you will use the subwoofer. The RSL is a heckuva deal for $400, and from a sound quality perspective it's quite a remarkable value for the price. There are other budget subs, like the BIC PL200-II, that have more mid-bass so they're able to satisfy the needs of some for less money (mid-bass is often what causes the 'kick in the chest' sensation people refer to). I think the Monoprice Monolith 10 can be had for around $400 sometimes so that might be worth waiting for.

What will the sub be used for? How large is your room (HWD)?
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It depends upon what you're looking to achieve and how you will use the subwoofer. The RSL is a heckuva deal for $400, and from a sound quality perspective it's quite a remarkable value for the price. There are other budget subs, like the BIC PL200-II, that have more mid-bass so they're able to satisfy the needs of some for less money (mid-bass is often what causes the 'kick in the chest' sensation people refer to). I think the Monoprice Monolith 10 can be had for around $400 sometimes so that might be worth waiting for.

What will the sub be used for? How large is your room (HWD)?
Sub is used for 90% movies/netflix and 10% sports. Room is 12 x 17, main seating is within 12 x 13 seated area.
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Sub is used for 90% movies/netflix and 10% sports. Room is 12 x 17, main seating is within 12 x 13 seated area.
Given the size of your room and usage both the SpeedWoofer and PL-200II will work fine. If you want something with a higher quality of sound than the RSL is going to be the better option, while the BIC will emphasize the mid-bass a bit more. It will depend upon what type of response you favor most.
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Given the size of your room and usage both the SpeedWoofer and PL-200II will work fine. If you want something with a higher quality of sound than the RSL is going to be the better option, while the BIC will emphasize the mid-bass a bit more. It will depend upon what type of response you favor most.
Okay. I had read on the BIC PL-200II and bought a few days ago arriving today. It was a bit better on my budget, and seemed to have great reviews. With that said, with my setup of speakers, receiver and room size etc, is there a way I can figure out or you would be able to recommend which frequency response to set this subwoofer setting at? Not sure really how to figure the 'best' setting for this. I appreciate any/all help.
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Okay. I had read on the BIC PL-200II and bought a few days ago arriving today. It was a bit better on my budget, and seemed to have great reviews. With that said, with my setup of speakers, receiver and room size etc, is there a way I can figure out or you would be able to recommend which frequency response to set this subwoofer setting at? Not sure really how to figure the 'best' setting for this. I appreciate any/all help.
There is no 'best' setting I'm afraid as there are too many variables; location, the speakers it's used with, room dimensions, surface type (lots of hard walls or things like drapes), personal preferences, etc. Perhaps the best thing to do is pop over to this thread. There's a guide that goes through every aspect of subwoofer calibration in minute detail. It's likely to be a bit overwhelming but you can ask your questions there and the author himself will probably answer.
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Why isnt Klipsch on this list?
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Why isnt Klipsch on this list?

the sub12hg is a klipsch, it was on the list, and considered very good @ 200.

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Looks like Klipsch also has one called K-100SW. I wonder if they're just selling current stock though and the Sub-12 and K-100 SW have been discontinued. When I clicked on the Subwoofers link from the Klipsch website they don't list either but a search of the interwebs does have a link for both of them. Weird. Either way, it's probably getting to be time I go over the links and clean them up anyway. I'll add those two.

 
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amazon has the sub12hg for 255, a bit high, but under 300

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