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You said, "the 7201 is just too much sub for my space", and you are therefore selling it for 2 also monster sized subs or now 4 smaller ones. So either you were too stupid to begin with to realize how huge the sub was, or you are downsizing in your twisted mind because it was too powerful. Whatever it is, it's nice to see people piss money away like it means nothing to them. Enjoy your counseling.
I saw the sub (7201) before I purchased it, so I guess you're right that I'm extremely stupid for getting the sub especially after seeing how huge it really was. I'm 65 years old and I guess the mind over time does indeed become twisted because of the rigors of daily life and the consequences of one's actions over time. It seems to me you're angry at something and have the need to express that anger in an open forum to draw attention to yourself, well you've succeeded, the floor is yours.

As far as the money goes I was under the impression that it was my money that I was p**sing away, why are you so concerned about something that's not yours and saying that money means nothing to me, at this stage of my life with both mine and another Family member's health I can honestly say that money actually doesn't mean much to me. I've learned you don't get to be my age living life as a fool, the tongue is a double edged sword and words can cut deeper than any blade. That only happens if you allow it, feel free to continue your tongue lashing if it makes you feel better, obviously you need something to.

Welcome to the PSA subwoofer thread, please continue to add your most pertinent to our subwoofer discussion posts as I can't wait to hear what other useful and exciting things you have to say that will help other fellow enthusiasts make decisions with their subwoofer choices, thanks again for contributing.

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Just ignore Freddy. Jealousy in others is ugly to see isn't it?
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Thank you @rboster , I did quote the post but did not return the attack which was most definitely meant for me. I'm happy to see that this type of posting and behaviour is not tolerated.
good job.....There are signs that say "Dont Feed the Animals" for a reason!
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Nobody is sorrier than me my friend, I wished I got a terrible bass FR and the single sub was so localized and stuck out like a sore thumb but it doesn't, it actually looks good with the rest of my space, you can't really see how deep the sub is as I have a lot of room up front and was able to have my mains stay where they were before getting the 72. Plus I have at least 10' behind the PLP to place it as well. The most shocking thing for me besides the violent assault on me, wife and house was the great FR I have at 14 different locations at and around the PLP, in other words there ain't a bad seat in the house......

Throw your apprehension out the window my friend and just say what's up

Bottom line, the S7201 is the bass head's final destination. That's another great description, seriously.
Your Mother had to be in shock, I wished I could have seen her face, she's probably my age or close anyway, I'm 65, I hope that's not an insult and she's a lot younger, if so forgive me. Peeing is also an expected physical reaction, I can relate to that as well. I'm really happy for you Climber and wish you many years of enjoyment with your 7201, thanks for backing me up, I had a feeling that my experience with the 72 was not unique. Cheers Brother.

Went to the hardware store today to check on the stair climber dolly and will be reserving it for the day soon, sad but it's reality. Consolation is I don't think I will be downgrading with whatever I decide to replace the 7201 with.

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Jeff: You can try and neuter the sub/LFE output. Try not running the sub trims hot and find the LFE setting in your receivers menu, by default it's set at zero. You can lower it to a negative number. Let me know if this helps.

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Jeff: You can try and neuter the sub/LFE output. Try not running the sub trims hot and find the LFE setting in your receivers menu, by default it's set at zero. You can lower it to a negative number. Let me know if this helps.
Thanks Mike for the suggestions, this has been mentioned by someone else as well. I've tried listening at what Audy set the sub trims at and even lower, neutering the LFE output is like putting a suppressor on a rifle, still does it's job just not so intensely. I honestly didn't take into account this sub is not for smaller rooms like mine and to neuter this sub would be a sin. It's like buying a car capable of hitting speeds of 200 MPH and never leaving the city with it. I just had to have the Flagship, at least I can say that I did and can share my impressions with others and help them decide if it's right for their situations.

I'm going to list it in the classifieds for a limited time to give someone the opportunity to get this masterpiece to add to their collection at the pre-order price, that's the least I can do and if it sells I won't have to feel so bad returning the sub. Thanks

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Good job Jeff, way to be a man by not taking the bait.
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Please do the WW-Z scene when Pitt exits the car in the opening traffic jam. The first explosion in the film off in the distance.

1)Use the french DD audio, oui?

2)speakers to large.

3)Sound mode on the Denon set to DD first. You should hear a good rumble out of the sub

4)repeat scene with the ONLY change being the sound mode set to DD + Dolby Surround.

Do you get the same rumble out of the sub? Anything out of the sub? Or is the rumble missing entirely?

Also, be sure the bass is set to LFE(not LFE+Main) for all of the above.

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Hi Tom,

I tried this experiment following your instructions listed above. As far as I can tell I got just about the same rumble from my subs switching between DD alone and DD+DS. I switched back and forth with that scene at least 30 times (I now know some French words fluently) and in most cases I did feel like DD had a slight advantage to the rumble over the DD+DS but it was very close.

Let me note however that I have the Denon X4200 and not the 4300 which you originally asked about.
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@ahblaza , Jeffrey my friend, nothing but the best wishes for you in both health, life and bass...

I agree that the sub may be too much for a small room. I was thinking about it before getting dual V1801s and I am glad I did not even try it. In a small room like mine on a suspended floor would have really caused some damage or the house. Plus I really don't know where I would put it. I am happy that you got to experience it though. And Tom agreed. Lol


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Thanks guys for all your support and well wishes, I'm a very fortunate and a Blessed man to have such wonderful and caring people like yourselves watching my back. I really mean this with all of my heart, I come here when I have no where else to go, there's always a friend just a word away.

Cheers Jeffrey


EDIT: 7201 for sale cheap in the classifieds........................
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Thanks guys for all your support and well wishes, I'm a very fortunate and a Blessed man to have such wonderful and caring people like yourselves watching my back. I really mean this with all of my heart, I come here when I have no where else to go, there's always a friend just a word away.

Cheers Jeffrey


EDIT: 7201 for sale cheap in the classifieds........................
Maybe I'll buy it just to see if I can actually reduce my condo to a pile of kindling
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I'll get it out first thing in the AM, start the fire....................
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Tom if you want to ship your new 7201 out to me for my GTG meet there’s 37 guys coming that would be happy to bring it down in my basement and review it. The new sub sounds pretty amazing from what everyone has posted congrats on the design!!
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I ordered a 7201 on Tuesday and it was delivered yesterday, crazy quick service from Tom and the gang. This will be my first experience with PSA. Now to get it upstairs.......

To say this thing is a beast is an understatement, I currently have 2 of the Chase Home Theater SS 18.2's and this pretty much dwarfs them.

I have attached a copy of the space it is going to work in.

I have never had nor experienced a sub that can dig down into the single digits, so I am really looking forward to this.
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^^ I look forward to reading your impressions on what that beast can do in a loft setting. I'd be willing to bet you're going to get some serious tactile shaking. Congrats on your new sub.
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I ordered a 7201 on Tuesday and it was delivered yesterday, crazy quick service from Tom and the gang. This will be my first experience with PSA. Now to get it upstairs.......

To say this thing is a beast is an understatement, I currently have 2 of the Chase Home Theater SS 18.2's and this pretty much dwarfs them.

I have attached a copy of the space it is going to work in.

I have never had nor experienced a sub that can dig down into the single digits, so I am really looking forward to this.
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I believe it! This thing dwarfs the dual 18" sealed subs I have, and a little 12" energy sub I use for my turntable.

Getting ready to watch our first movie. It is crazy how little gain I have to use. Having a suspended floor is going to be a lot of fun!!!
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I believe it! This thing dwarfs the dual 18" sealed subs I have, and a little 12" energy sub I use for my turntable.

Getting ready to watch our first movie. It is crazy how little gain I have to use. Having a suspended floor is going to be a lot of fun!!!
I was going to say how does your cartridge stay on track with all that subwooferage so close and near the table, I guess you only use the Energy sub with the table? Also did you put feet on the side of the sub, I see you still have them on the bottom? Enjoy your movie night...........
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I would recommend Star Wars The Force Awakens to start the break in process (the sub and the house). It digs deep and the S7201 delivers in spades.
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I believe it! This thing dwarfs the dual 18" sealed subs I have, and a little 12" energy sub I use for my turntable.

Getting ready to watch our first movie. It is crazy how little gain I have to use. Having a suspended floor is going to be a lot of fun!!!
Your speakers look like thumb tacks sitting on the subs, is that a corner bass trap or an electrostatic panel I'm seeing in the last photo...........
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Salutations oh Wise Ones!

I currently have a PSA 15V integrated with my system ...very pleased with it, but looking to add a second sub. My dilemma is the WAF has already been exceeded, and to her credit, there is actually no reasonable space to add another 15V, which is dimensionally the smallest sub available from PSA. The only way I could make it work is if there were some wireless solution allowing me to send the signal from my receiver to the 15V - I could then place the second sub behind the seating position, which is the only place a sub of this size would fit. However, I have not seen any wireless solution that seems to work reasonably well enough.

Plan B is to get an smaller sub of another brand and try to integrate it. This would be with the hopes that my Dennon X7200 would be able to effectively equalize the two subs. Here is my current setup:

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I would at least consider an RSL, which has a wireless option, and is very highly regarded.


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I was going to say how does your cartridge stay on track with all that subwooferage so close and near the table, I guess you only use the Energy sub with the table? Also did you put feet on the side of the sub, I see you still have them on the bottom? Enjoy your movie night...........
You guessed it, the energy is only used with the turntable.

I have not moved the feet, I don't think it will really matter.
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Watching the latest Transformer's movie, the entire floor including our giant sectional is in full motion like some kind of interactive ride at Disney!

This is AWESOME!!!

Thank's Tom for getting this out to me so quickly!
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Watching the latest Transformer's movie, the entire floor including our giant sectional is in full motion like some kind of interactive ride at Disney!

This is AWESOME!!!

Thank's Tom for getting this out to me so quickly!
I guess my eyes are still good enough to detect that panel speaker in the corner, nice my friend with the Maggies. I hear you with the motion ride, my 7201 took me on more than a ride it blew me away literally, I felt like a jigsaw puzzle after watching Wonder Woman and my misses had to come down and put my body parts back together.
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Thinking of putting my two 15v's nearfield behind my couch. Plenty of room, see attached pic.
Just wondering if the difference between having them directly behind couch in their normal down firing position or sideways with drivers firing into couch would be a huge difference.
I know @Basshead has great results with his in their regular positions.
What say y'all?
I'd prefer regular down firing only bc I don't want my lil guy to somehow mess up the drivers, spill a juice box or some nonsense on them.

Ps, isn't that nice space just begging for an s7201

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The only way I could see an S72 fitting in here is with the amp on the bottom, would just need to figure out some kind of support/platform so the controls/connectors arent being mushed into the ground. Putting it in its default vertical config would block your rear channel(s).
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Looks like I’m going to need to raise my projector screen: I have dual v3601’s, and one of them is behind my screen. The screen’s height does not quite clear the v3601 behind it, and I discovered Friday my screen frame has been bent by the sub behind it! There’s a testimony to the power these babies can output!


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Thinking of putting my two 15v's nearfield behind my couch. Plenty of room, see attached pic.
Just wondering if the difference between having them directly behind couch in their normal down firing position or sideways with drivers firing into couch would be a huge difference.
I know @Basshead has great results with his in their regular positions.
What say y'all?
I'd prefer regular down firing only bc I don't want my lil guy to somehow mess up the drivers, spill a juice box or some nonsense on them.
I was going to say it would be neat to turn them on their sides and get those drivers near the couch to see what kind of TR you would get but your point about the little one is valid. If he's a good boy then I would say give it a shot... if's he's a little mischievous like I was then maybe not.
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I just wanted to give some input as to how much fun I'm having with the 15V. My settings are Audyssey coming back at -10 and me increasing it to -4 with DQ on. I know this is running the sub pretty darn hot. I had a friend come into town with his kids and later on we fired up a movie for the kids for around 10 min. He wanted to test the system out so asked what I could play. I whipped out Max Max and right when the logo hits with the gears and engine roaring he lets out a, "Haha, sweeet!" This sub provides such an amazing movie experience that the only thing I think about is, "What would I experience if I moved up in the chain?"

Curious in a 2,200 cubic foot room if you guys think opting for the S3601 would be a nice upgrade? I can't do the V3601 because it's too tall, but the sealed would work fine. I'm wondering if I would miss the extension down low that I experience now with the ported 15V. I don't plan on upgrading for at least a year at this point, but just curious based upon people's impressions with subs from PSA. Thanks!

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