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post #38821 of 53151 Old 12-30-2017, 05:19 PM
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Hi All. Looking for some advice. Wife finally gave the go ahead to upgrade. Currently have a 15V (love it) but I am either going to go duals and add a another 15V or send my 15V back and upgrade to a single V3601. My room is open concept 3500 cubic ft / 500 sqft. Does anyone have any advice? Spoke to Tom who has been very helpful but am looking to see if anyone has experienced both of these setups. I am planning on kids and pets in the future and do like the industrial design of the 15V but we all know how the bass addiction goes...
I haven't had dual 15V's but in the past I have had dual XV15SE's (the predecessor to the 15V) and then moved to a single V3600 combined with a single XV15se (then I went to dual V3600's and then to dual V3601's... yes, I have a bass addiction ). Anyway, when I heard the V3600 after having dual XV15SE's I was amazed. It was an "Oh Yeah!!! that's what I've been looking for all my life!" moment. Don't get me wrong, the dual XV15SE's were great, I loved them, but the brute force of these V36XX subs is something pretty special.

So my advice would be as follows: If you have a good spot where a single sub works well then I would get the V3601. But if you feel you need to smooth out the bass response in your room then I would say you might be better off getting dual 15V's.
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...the brute force of these V36XX subs is something pretty special.
No Kidding. I erroneously thought I was well-versed in the LFE area before acquiring one of these monsters myself. The wife even became seriously concerned for the china and windows the first time she experienced it during a movie with the sound up.
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I have a V1500 and a V3601. The V3601 is so powerful I can’t put it near my walls or the drywall will start crumbling and slapping against the studs. It works *really* well nearfield behind my couch. Watching a movie like Battlefield LA maxes out the gyroscope / accelerometer on my phone when running VibSensor.

At the moment I’m going back and forth between ordering another V3601 or a pair of V1500s. The V3601 is a lot more bass for the $$$ but I cannot use it in the corner without keeping the gain absurdly low. Sprinkling V1500s around the walls of the room and keeping the V3601 I have now nearfield might be the best option for my room.

If you have sturdy walls or can place a V3601 very near your seating, I would absolutely recommended it over a pair of 15’s.
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I'm curious to hear if the dust has settled on all this "chuffing" issues with the new line of drivers for 01 series. I read that report from that event with all the different sub companies going to that person's house and the 1801 was the most offensive for chuffing apparently. Not sure if the v3601 is under ported or something with the slot port. I love my 15V and rarely hear anything come out of it, but had interest in maybe going to the V3601 down the road if I can make space. Would love to hear V3601 owners thoughts!

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I’ve never heard my V3601 chuff or distort in any way.

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Source material is a big factor in anomalies like chuffing, so any consensus on that topic is going to be elusive.

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I'm curious to hear if the dust has settled on all this "chuffing" issues with the new line of drivers for 01 series. I read that report from that event with all the different sub companies going to that person's house and the 1801 was the most offensive for chuffing apparently. Not sure if the v3601 is under ported or something with the slot port. I love my 15V and rarely hear anything come out of it, but had interest in maybe going to the V3601 down the road if I can make space. Would love to hear V3601 owners thoughts!
I've never been able to make my V3601's chuff. I've even run scenes like the WWZ grenade scene pretty loud and put my ear down near the port and I've never heard it chuff. And I run my subs about 8 dB hot. So for me it's not even remotely an issue.

It should be noted that any ported sub can be made to exhibit port noise if you push it hard enough. So I suppose if I really wanted to I could get them to make some kind of port noise. But at that point all it would be is an experiment and IMO If a sub doesn't "chuff" under your most extreme listening levels then it's a non issue.

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I've never been able to make my V3601's chuff. I've even run scenes like the WWZ grenade scene pretty loud and put my ear down near the port and I've never heard it chuff. And I run my subs about 8 dB hot. So for me it's not even remotely an issue.

It should be noted that any ported sub can be made to exhibit port noise if you push it hard enough. So I suppose if I really wanted to I could get them to make some kind of port noise. But at that point all it would be is an experiment and IMO If a sub doesn't "chuff" under your most extreme listening levels then it's a non issue.
Interesting reports. Glad to hear though! I know David Charles certainly has had issues with his sub. Possibly his was defective? I thought he read he could make his chuff pretty easily with a moderate master volume. I have the 15V and was just listening to some pretty intense rap music that has some pretty low frequency for music, had the master volume at -18 and ran it 6db hot and couldn't hear a thing (the sub's port that is, could certainly hear the music
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I believe he ended up discovering he was sitting in some large null, so it was his room, not the sub.
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I believe he ended up discovering he was sitting in some large null, so it was his room, not the sub.
Oh, had been following his issue but did not know that he found out it was a set up issue...I, very recently in another thread (plus many others) said that the disparity between what people have said about the PSA subs chuffing is so large that it is almost impossible for it to be a product issue. 99.9% of all the PSA sub owners when listening to normal content have never heard any chuffing and the 0.1% that do likely have a set up issue. If it was a product issue then you certainly have a larger population reporting this.

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Interesting reports. Glad to hear though! I know David Charles certainly has had issues with his sub. Possibly his was defective? I thought he read he could make his chuff pretty easily with a moderate master volume. I have the 15V and was just listening to some pretty intense rap music that has some pretty low frequency for music, had the master volume at -18 and ran it 6db hot and couldn't hear a thing (the sub's port that is, could certainly hear the music
If you listen to music with the MV at -18dB and sub 6dB hot, you won't hear port noise. Period.
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Trying to get extreme deep bass pulsating through my body despite being in a 11,000 cuft basement.
Height wise its about 7 foot tall when you include the 5 inches for the furniture dollies underneath.
@Pradeep2 - IMO, you've so got the right idea here on how to get what your after in a 11,000 cuft room! Get them subs as close to you as you possibly can. In my 10,000 cuft room, with only 3 sealed 18 VNF's (with drivers pointing into my back as close as possible), it'll deliver exactly your description is of what you want - 'Deep bass pulsating though your body'. I've got Farfield too, but its the VNF that really pound you. It'll can deliver crazy amounts of slam and TR all the way from the mid bass chest punch frequencies down into the single digit ULF stuff. Before I started doing this, I didn't didn't really think it was possible to achieve what I wanted in a room that large without having a huge numbers of subs. Now I did find that having the drivers facing you is paramount and as close as possible to get the max effect, but I'm sure that 7201 with the drivers in its orientation will get it done too, being that close to you (that thing is beastly!). Try it right behind you if you can as well, or in a addition, your um-18's in the 4cuft box facing right into your back (the driver that is). Experimentation is a great thing to get you what your after, which I can see you are not afraid to do!

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So i finally moved my two um18s from left and right speaker stand duty up front at 10 feet to back behind the loveseat in VNF. Inverted driver firing directly into my back and the normal orientation driver just to the right of it, with the 10201 behemoth on the left. Huge improvement to tactile impact, couch is truly alive now on concrete slab. 13 Hours was really quite shocking in a very good way. Time to watch all the bass classics again. Kidney stones shouldn't be a problem for me - the ULF therapy instead of ultrasonic. Still have another two um18s to put in flat packs when they are available, then switch from the two EP4000 amps to Speakerpower with Brians um18 specific eq.
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@Pradeep2 have you experienced any tangible benefit from the UM18 push pull arrangement?

I'd love to try to stuff four UM18s into the S7201 cabinet! Maybe PSA could offer that as a S7201+?
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Marc, no difference I can feel with motor out versus in but I haven't measured anything. Maybe Tom will sell me a bare 7201 cabinet that I can add an sp-4000 and my four um18s into.... to get some symmetry going.......road trip...save shipping costs by grabbing a couple of 210Ts while I'm down there......this could get expensive
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I can’t decide whether or not to get another V3601 or a pair of V1500s. Classy problem to have, I guess.

With the V3601 I know I’m getting another nuclear reactor’s worth of bass for relatively little $$$ but might not be able to turn the gain up much without destroying the walls. Adding 2 more V1500s would be a little more predictable in terms of output and the ports are at the perfect height for tactile wind response during high SPL scenes. The asymmetry of only having one V1500 on the front wall is driving me nuts so I’ll probably end up getting another one of those anyway.

I’m actually *really* satisfied with a V3601 nearfield, a V1500 on the front wall, and my old velodyne 12” in the rear corner. Any additional subs from here on out are purely for ****s and giggles / the ability to levitate things sitting on the coffee table.
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@Pradeep2 have you experienced any tangible benefit from the UM18 push pull arrangement?

I'd love to try to stuff four UM18s into the S7201 cabinet! Maybe PSA could offer that as a S7201+?
What would be the difference/benefit to having the UM18 in the S7201 cabinet over the PSA drivers? They appear to have very similar specs (3" voice coil, ~2" Pk-Pk linear travel, 1000W RMS power handling). The only true differences I see are the dual wound coil UM-18 with rubber surround versus the four layer coil PSA with treated foam surround.

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Prob a little more excursion potential giving a little more at the very bottom frequencies with the um18s.

But let's not kid ourselves, the S7201 right out of the loving hands of Jim and Tom needs no upgrades to deliver a breathtaking experience. Plus I dont see them moving from Eminence drivers built in Kentucky to Chinese manufactured drivers like the um18, goes against the whole Made in USA ethos which I strongly support.

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Took the 15S's off the top of the s7201 and stacked them on top of the um18s. Everything is VNF now.
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Took the 15S's off the top of the s7201 and stacked them on top of the um18s. Everything is VNF now.
The only thing left is to glue your head or rear end to the drivers for Extreme Near Field (ENF).

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So i finally moved my two um18s from left and right speaker stand duty up front at 10 feet to back behind the loveseat in VNF. Inverted driver firing directly into my back and the normal orientation driver just to the right of it, with the 10201 behemoth on the left. Huge improvement to tactile impact, couch is truly alive now on concrete slab. 13 Hours was really quite shocking in a very good way. Time to watch all the bass classics again. Kidney stones shouldn't be a problem for me - the ULF therapy instead of ultrasonic. Still have another two um18s to put in flat packs when they are available, then switch from the two EP4000 amps to Speakerpower with Brians um18 specific eq.
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Awesome!!! Glad to hear you gave it a go ...pretty crazy what it can do huh

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Still pretty blown away by the difference in the sound settings from my XB1X !! I feel like all my previous impressions of things were just a lie now. I use the Xbox for pretty much everything bluray/4k (now) , youtube music , netflix and everything Ive heard off of it was using Stereo Uncompressed with that PCM sound being spread throughout the speakers. Now that I am getting the true 7.1 sound and ATMOS , I definitely hear my rear surrounds being used more and the bass is just more detailed and powerful! I enjoyed what I was hearing thru the XBox previously , but it did seem like there was something slightly missing. DirectTV bass for example is horrible IMO , yeah its loud and powerful but no detail and almost overbearing sometimes. Previously with the XBox , there was more detail and at times I thought the bass could be a bit different but I chalked it up to my setup somehow. Now with the settings seemingly more correct , the old Xbox settings almost sound like my they were DirectTV although not as bad! I have yet to pop in any Blurays or 4k , but the games sound fantastic with sound just coming from everywhere!
I dont have the disc of WWZ , but do have it purchased off XBox and that grenade scene is on a whole nother level now! We have been remodeling our restroom the past few weeks and the guy brought his GF/helper , she sat and watched a bit of TV while they were doing some paperwork. I turned on WWZ and got to the Grenade scene with the volume no where near reference , and even below normal listening levels because they were talking back and forth. That thing hit and all i saw her do is sort of stiffen up and eyes open wide and say "WOW .....Whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!" I swear I hear our sideyard wood gate rattle now lol...It really is like a blast of energy explodes inside the house! I almost want to un-box the V1801s , just to listen to them again , but im not opening that can of worms!!!
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I can’t decide whether or not to get another V3601 or a pair of V1500s. Classy problem to have, I guess.

With the V3601 I know I’m getting another nuclear reactor’s worth of bass for relatively little $$$ but might not be able to turn the gain up much without destroying the walls. Adding 2 more V1500s would be a little more predictable in terms of output and the ports are at the perfect height for tactile wind response during high SPL scenes. The asymmetry of only having one V1500 on the front wall is driving me nuts so I’ll probably end up getting another one of those anyway.

I’m actually *really* satisfied with a V3601 nearfield, a V1500 on the front wall, and my old velodyne 12” in the rear corner. Any additional subs from here on out are purely for ****s and giggles / the ability to levitate things sitting on the coffee table.
I would get one V1500 for now and deal with your symmetry issue and see how that sounds to you. If you still want more after that then you'll know a little better which way to go... add a third V1500 or add a second V3601.
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Awesome!!! Glad to hear you gave it a go ...pretty crazy what it can do huh
Yes, thanks for the suggestion. I could never have imagined the impact I'm getting in a concrete slab basement. I guess the best way to describe it would be super tight, precise, internal bass that just flows through your body.
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I would get one V1500 for now and deal with your symmetry issue and see how that sounds to you. If you still want more after that then you'll know a little better which way to go... add a third V1500 or add a second V3601.
I’m leaning that direction. It’ll get rid of me wondering what another V1500’s worth of wind would feel like and balance out the front of the room. Plus, it would leave some decent padding in my checking account for whatever’s next down the line.

I’ve been watching Skyfall for the last hour or two and do not remember it having this much bass. When the subway car crashed through I happened to look over at the V1500 I have next to the right tower and I’ve never seen that much excursion. Maybe it was just the afternoon sun highlighting the 15” driver but that thing was moving. The V3601 has been rocking the couch the whole time without breaking a sweat. This movie is moving up on my favorite list of bass movies for sure. Great gunshots and helicopter noises - the explosion about 19 minutes in legitimately caught me off guard.

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Yes, thanks for the suggestion. I could never have imagined the impact I'm getting in a concrete slab basement. I guess the best way to describe it would be super tight, precise, internal bass that just flows through your body.
This pretty much sums is up perfectly. There is just something about those drivers being that close that makes the bass tight and precise and really allows it to be felt within your body, not just hearing it and kind of feeling it with maybe a little bit of TR from the subs being farther away. Not that FF subs are not good, I like those too, but there is just something special about what VNF does that is hard to get or nearly impossible otherwise (at least for me when it comes to movie bass, small or large room).

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Alright guys...bear with me for a minute here. I've been tossing around a few ideas in my head as far as my subs go. As most of you know I have dual v1500's and dual 15v's in my relatively small living room setup.
Now don't get me wrong, I love these subs and they provide more than enough condo shaking bass than I need.
The idea I am toying with is making my sub footprint a tad smaller and possibly moving to two sealed subs instead. S3000i or s3601.
This way I lessen my footprint as far as having four huge subs in my living room and still have either quad 15's or 18's.
Has anyone gone such a route?
I love the visceral and violent sound the ported subs give, I guess just wondering if it would be a lateral move, upgrade or downgrade.(doubt that last one lol)
Thanks guys for any input
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I’m leaning that direction. It’ll get rid of me wondering what another V1500’s worth of wind would feel like and balance out the front of the room. Plus, it would leave some decent padding in my checking account for whatever’s next down the line.

I’ve been watching Skyfall for the last hour or two and do not remember it having this much bass. When the subway car crashed through I happened to look over at the V1500 I have next to the right tower and I’ve never seen that much excursion. Maybe it was just the afternoon sun highlighting the 15” driver but that thing was moving. The V3601 has been rocking the couch the whole time without breaking a sweat. This movie is moving up on my favorite list of bass movies for sure. Great gunshots and helicopter noises - the explosion about 19 minutes in legitimately caught me off guard.
I'm going to have to give Skyfall another spin since it's been awhile. I watched Spectra last week and that has a nice mix and shows off the whole system from the low end up to the crystal crisp highs.
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Alright guys...bear with me for a minute here. I've been tossing around a few ideas in my head as far as my subs go. As most of you know I have dual v1500's and dual 15v's in my relatively small living room setup.
Now don't get me wrong, I love these subs and they provide more than enough condo shaking bass than I need.
The idea I am toying with is making my sub footprint a tad smaller and possibly moving to two sealed subs instead. S3000i or s3601.
This way I lessen my footprint as far as having four huge subs in my living room and still have either quad 15's or 18's.
Has anyone gone such a route?
I love the visceral and violent sound the ported subs give, I guess just wondering if it would be a lateral move, upgrade or downgrade.(doubt that last one lol)
Thanks guys for any input
Do you have a Mic and REW? Are you gaining 3-6db with additional each sub? Can you stack them to save space? Since you are thinking about going from 4 subs down to 2 I would go the dual S3601 route. Please see below for a chart for each sub. Do your neighbors give you dirty looks when they see you.

V1500

16Hz - 25Hz: 116.7 dB
31Hz - 50Hz: 124.5 dB
63Hz - 100Hz: 126.7 dB
16Hz - 100Hz: 123.8 dB

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16Hz - 25Hz: 115.8 dB
31Hz - 50Hz: 124.0 dB
63Hz - 100Hz: 126.3 dB
16Hz - 100Hz: 123.2 dB

S3000I

16Hz - 25Hz: 114.4 dB
31Hz - 50Hz: 126.8 dB
63Hz - 100Hz: 133.7 dB
16Hz - 100Hz: 127.8 dB

S3601

16Hz - 25Hz: 117.3 dB
31Hz - 50Hz: 131.1 dB
63Hz - 100Hz: 134.5 dB
16Hz - 100Hz: 130.1 dB

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Still pretty blown away by the difference in the sound settings from my XB1X !! I feel like all my previous impressions of things were just a lie now. I use the Xbox for pretty much everything bluray/4k (now) , youtube music , netflix and everything Ive heard off of it was using Stereo Uncompressed with that PCM sound being spread throughout the speakers. Now that I am getting the true 7.1 sound and ATMOS , I definitely hear my rear surrounds being used more and the bass is just more detailed and powerful! I enjoyed what I was hearing thru the XBox previously , but it did seem like there was something slightly missing. DirectTV bass for example is horrible IMO , yeah its loud and powerful but no detail and almost overbearing sometimes. Previously with the XBox , there was more detail and at times I thought the bass could be a bit different but I chalked it up to my setup somehow. Now with the settings seemingly more correct , the old Xbox settings almost sound like my they were DirectTV although not as bad! I have yet to pop in any Blurays or 4k , but the games sound fantastic with sound just coming from everywhere!
I dont have the disc of WWZ , but do have it purchased off XBox and that grenade scene is on a whole nother level now! We have been remodeling our restroom the past few weeks and the guy brought his GF/helper , she sat and watched a bit of TV while they were doing some paperwork. I turned on WWZ and got to the Grenade scene with the volume no where near reference , and even below normal listening levels because they were talking back and forth. That thing hit and all i saw her do is sort of stiffen up and eyes open wide and say "WOW .....Whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!" I swear I hear our sideyard wood gate rattle now lol...It really is like a blast of energy explodes inside the house! I almost want to un-box the V1801s , just to listen to them again , but im not opening that can of worms!!!

I would assume you want to choose Bitstream passthrough in the Xbox 1 audio settings;


Just as Microsoft promised last fall, the Xbox One finally has support for next-generation audio formats like Dolby Atmos and DTS:X -- provided you have a recent home theater receiver that supports them. You just have to flip on the "bitstream passthrough" feature in the console's Blu-ray settings to get things going, which lets your receiver do all the audio decoding work.
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Been lurking here for years and with a recent upgrade I felt it necessary to show my support for PSA. After moving to a new house and due to a much larger room I felt the need to upgrade my whole system. I started looking through the forums and noticed that PSA speakers and sub woofers were recommended a lot. A friend of mine had just purchased a pair of MT-110 speakers and after having a listen I was sold. Realizing PSA was fairly local I gave them a call and placed an order which I drove out to their shop to pick up. Tom gave a tour of their facility and introduced my to Jim and their shop manager. It was all I could do to fit the 3 MTM-210s and the 2 15vs I bought into the back of my SUV. I got everything home and set it all up and was blown away at how much better the speakers sounded that the Klipsch reference series 1 I previously had.

I spent the next week dialing in everything the way I wanted but there was something haunting me in the back of my mind. While I was at the shop I was able to see everything in production and caught a glimpse of the V3601 and though to myself, man I bet those put out some serious bass (not that the 15vs were lacking, but you know how it goes lol). I don't have to deal with the wife acceptance factor or children so I figured what the hell, go big or go home. After giving Tom another call I was on my way back out to PSA again to make the exchange and pick up the rest of my system. Cramming 2 V3601s, 2 MT-110s, and 2 MT-110srs into my poor SUV was a feat but they managed to get it all in there and off I went. Luckily I am good friends with both of my neighbors because things got out of hand quick the first time I hosted a movie night.

I have to say I have never been this satisfied with the way my system sounds since I started into home theater 20 years ago. Being able to drive to a manufacturer and see how a product is made and meet the people making it is something that is forgotten in America these days and coming from a manufacturing background I can appreciate what it takes to make a competitive product in the US. The fact that when you call PSA and Tom is the one that answers the phone speaks volumes to how they run their business.

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