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@albatros43 thanks!

Hey guys,

Just really trying to make my mind up between a few different subs. So far mostly interested in the Rythmik FV15HP, FV18 (still on the fence with this one), and the PSA V1801. My room is roughly 2,300 cubic feet, and would like for the sub to blend in with my current setup. Marantz SR-7011, Klipsch RP280FA, Klipsch RP450ca, Klipsch R-14 surrounds, Klipsch RP-140SA, and Klipsch SW-450 x2 subs.
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Very similar to @imureh . He's had the perfect experience to advise you.
pstairs or downstairs? Concrete slab or wood-framed above crawlspace?

Unless you are going to go for dual V1801s I have to recommend a V3601, the Rythmik FV18 or JTR Captivator 118HT. They are in a class above. The V1801 is more comparable to other 15" subs.

For your listening habits I would rank single subs in this order. JMO

1. PSA V3601
2. JTR Captivator 118HT
3. Rythmik FV18
4. PSA V1801

In most cases I prefer duals to singles and I feel that subs are the best place to stretch your budget.
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@albatros43 thanks!

Hey guys,

Just really trying to make my mind up between a few different subs. So far mostly interested in the Rythmik FV15HP, FV18 (still on the fence with this one), and the PSA V1801. My room is roughly 2,300 cubic feet, and would like for the sub to blend in with my current setup. Marantz SR-7011, Klipsch RP280FA, Klipsch RP450ca, Klipsch R-14 surrounds, Klipsch RP-140SA, and Klipsch SW-450 x2 subs.
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What are your listening habits and do you listen to more music or movies? The rythmik FV18 is great sub for more music. The PSA will have more output up top and more TR

Whatever you consider, you should look at duals.
I think any of the subs would work well for you but over all I agree with @imureh .
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Thanks!

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Thanks for the advice re the Sub 2, i had run conduits back there whiles building for that very purpose encase the need arises, looks like it may come in handy depending!

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do people usually use minidsp before or after audyssey correction?
I just used mine for time alignment of the subs. I tried using filters both before and after Audyssey and found, in my case, it sounded better without them.
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I'm typically a Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Aerosmith guy but I'm opening my mind and exploring Pandora. My wife and kids are probably on the phone with the police or the mental hospital, but I found a station called Trap and one for Bassnectar.

These stations and an S7201 sub... holy crap! I think I'm going to pass out.

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Wait a minute.... guys, that the heck is TR? I have seen this so many times, have a feeling it deals with sub performance but would love to know what it stands for!!!
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DJ Turn it Up by Yellow Claw is a song to demo your sub for sure.
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Wait a minute.... guys, that the heck is TR? I have seen this so many times, have a feeling it deals with sub performance but would love to know what it stands for!!!
Tactile Response. It's that physical thump you feel in your body from the bass. I'm getting a massage right now from my sub.
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Tactile Response. It's that physical thump you feel in your body from the bass. I'm getting a massage right now from my sub.
ok got it! I have my old school bandpass sub located right beside the MLP. Love watching Toy Story 2 Intro. It rolls off after 30Hz, can't imagine what you guys must feel with all these more recent subs firing away when watching new releases. Envy!
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Very similar to @imureh . He's had the perfect experience to advise you.
pstairs or downstairs? Concrete slab or wood-framed above crawlspace?

Unless you are going to go for dual V1801s I have to recommend a V3601, the Rythmik FV18 or JTR Captivator 118HT. They are in a class above. The V1801 is more comparable to other 15" subs.

For your listening habits I would rank single subs in this order. JMO

1. PSA V3601
2. JTR Captivator 118HT
3. Rythmik FV18
4. PSA V1801

In most cases I prefer duals to singles and I feel that subs are the best place to stretch your budget.
The V3601 is an absurd amount of bass for the $$$. Hard to overstate the value. It’s like (3) V1500’s worth of performance in one box for the price of (2) V1500’s. And I love the V1500, just not enough to buy 5 of them... yet.

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The V3601 is an absurd amount of bass for the $$$. Hard to understate the value. It’s like (3) V1500’s worth of performance in one box for the price of (2) V1500’s. And I love the V1500, just not enough to buy 5 of them... yet.


I have dual v3600i’s and dual v1500’s Just watched Blade Runner 2049 ...I had a big smile on my face!


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I have dual v3600i’s and dual v1500’s Just watched Blade Runner 2049 ...I had a big smile on my face!
That's awesome, that's what all the hard work of moving subs around and running REW is all about. Once you get dialed in you can just sit back and enjoy it.

And I like the fact that you know you're truly dialed in.... your ears tell you it sounds great and REW confirms you aren't missing any bass. Now there will be no nagging question that has you wondering if you are missing out on anything because you KNOW you aren't.
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Here is all the new 01 series subs output numbers in 1 post.


V1801


With the pascal conversion

16-25hz ~ 120.1
31-50hz ~ 129.5
63-100hz ~129.6
16-100hz ~ 127.4

Without the pascal conversion

16-25hz ~ 118.2
31-50hz ~ 129.4
63-100hz ~ 129.5
16-100hz ~ 125.7

That's all referenced to 1m/peak. Subtract 9 for 2m/rms.
How do I make these equal to the numbers on databass? Subtract 9 from which one?
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Thanks everyone for the input!!

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Could you lay them on their side? The rythmik sound will similar to a sealed sub. Good extension and low distortion. This is true for both the FV15HP and the FV18. The PSA will give more output 30hz and above which where most movie content is. They also have more TR which for me adds to the explosion scenes and gunfire. Ideally you would want to compare them in your room to really know what you like but this should give you some indication. Also PSA V1801 has the best form factor and ease of integration and has the longest warranty as well as top notch customer service. But both these companies are great and you would be happy with either. Just go with the one that appeals to you more based on their style of sound, form factor etc. I personally think for movies go with PSA. A V3601 would be even better.
I will post a few pictures of my setup to give you a better idea of what I'm working with. On the photo with the house, the "theater" is the bottom left window. I'am interested in Rythmik's servo technology though, to me it sounds pretty interesting. However on the same hand, I have never listened to a high end subwoofer in a home theater before. I would say that Im obviously looking for something that hits really hard, has quick response, but has super clean sound as well.

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Very similar to @imureh . He's had the perfect experience to advise you.
pstairs or downstairs? Concrete slab or wood-framed above crawlspace?

Unless you are going to go for dual V1801s I have to recommend a V3601, the Rythmik FV18 or JTR Captivator 118HT. They are in a class above. The V1801 is more comparable to other 15" subs.

For your listening habits I would rank single subs in this order. JMO

1. PSA V3601
2. JTR Captivator 118HT
3. Rythmik FV18
4. PSA V1801

In most cases I prefer duals to singles and I feel that subs are the best place to stretch your budget.
My setup is in my basement on concrete slab, it is roughly half underground. Im open to different makes and models, just want to make sure Im getting the best rumble for my buck. The V3601 looks like an absolute beast, however Im not sure I could fit it into my room without doing a total redesign. That has really been my main attraction to the V1801, and well 18" woofer lol.

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I think any of the subs would work well for you but over all I agree with @imureh .
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The V3601 is an absurd amount of bass for the $$$. Hard to overstate the value. It’s like (3) V1500’s worth of performance in one box for the price of (2) V1500’s. And I love the V1500, just not enough to buy 5 of them... yet.
I do love me some bass, however Im not sure at what point I need to start worrying about the structural integrity of my house, and if my neighbors are going to feel it too haha.
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The V3601 is an absurd amount of bass for the $$$. Hard to overstate the value. It’s like (3) V1500’s worth of performance in one box for the price of (2) V1500’s. And I love the V1500, just not enough to buy 5 of them... yet.


For me, the v3601 hits the sweet spot: tremendous output and TR, imho the best value for big subs in the industry. Hard to imagine wanting or needing more than a pair of these.


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Thanks everyone for the input!!







I will post a few pictures of my setup to give you a better idea of what I'm working with. On the photo with the house, the "theater" is the bottom left window. I'am interested in Rythmik's servo technology though, to me it sounds pretty interesting. However on the same hand, I have never listened to a high end subwoofer in a home theater before. I would say that Im obviously looking for something that hits really hard, has quick response, but has super clean sound as well.







My setup is in my basement on concrete slab, it is roughly half underground. Im open to different makes and models, just want to make sure Im getting the best rumble for my buck. The V3601 looks like an absolute beast, however Im not sure I could fit it into my room without doing a total redesign. That has really been my main attraction to the V1801, and well 18" woofer lol.











I do love me some bass, however Im not sure at what point I need to start worrying about the structural integrity of my house, and if my neighbors are going to feel it too haha.


I’ve owned Rythmiks and they’re great subs for music, but my pair of V3601’s blows them away for tactility and sheer output. For me, the sub quest ended with them. .


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@albatros43 thanks!

Hey guys,

Just really trying to make my mind up between a few different subs. So far mostly interested in the Rythmik FV15HP, FV18 (still on the fence with this one), and the PSA V1801. My room is roughly 2,300 cubic feet, and would like for the sub to blend in with my current setup. Marantz SR-7011, Klipsch RP280FA, Klipsch RP450ca, Klipsch R-14 surrounds, Klipsch RP-140SA, and Klipsch SW-450 x2 subs.
If you're down to the fv15hp or v1801, don't stress too much as you're getting a top notch product either way. Here's one user review from someone who recently auditioned both in his system.

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/113-su...ng-better.html

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So both subs arrived on Thursday but I was so tired from work I was not able to review them until this passed weekend. Man oh man let me tell you first let me start off by saying both subs were everything I was hoping for and more. So over the weekend I watched about 4 or 5 movies that were BASS heavy. I first watched behind enemy lines along with Thor and Batman vs Superman, also a little kids movie for my daughter in which I can not remember the name to. I first audition the Rythmik FV15HP and this subs is amazing. In my house this sub was able to go as low as 10Hz, 15hz with no problem at all. Between the two this one digged deeper in the lower FR. The overall sound quality was amazing and I almost ended up buying this one . I really have nothing bad to say about the FV15HP job well done Rythmik. Now on to the PSA V1801, man oh man this sub is like night and day compared to the 15V's I had previously, don't get me wrong I like the 15's but they were not strong enough in the lower FR in my theater. They just did not get me excited when it was called upon to hit me in the gut so to speak. Well with the V1801 I had no such problem at all. It really made my seats become a massage chair when it was called upon for bass and I mean BASS. My wife was not to excited at first about me upgrading and trying to get duals because to her the 15V's were more than enough. Not until she felt the beast of this thing. She could not believe how much air was flowing through the ports and how much clean bass was coming out of them. Now I mention earlier that the Rythmik produce a deeper bass response, however the PSA was much stronger overall as far as raw output. So even though the Rythmik dig deeper the PSA had a stronger feeling when producing the lows because of the stronger amp. So for that reason alone we decided to go with the PSA also because it was smaller as well (WAF). Overall job well done for both companies but I am going with the V1801 and will eventually get another one as well.



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Very similar to @imureh . He's had the perfect experience to advise you.
pstairs or downstairs? Concrete slab or wood-framed above crawlspace?

Unless you are going to go for dual V1801s I have to recommend a V3601, the Rythmik FV18 or JTR Captivator 118HT. They are in a class above. The V1801 is more comparable to other 15" subs.

For your listening habits I would rank single subs in this order. JMO

1. PSA V3601
2. JTR Captivator 118HT
3. Rythmik FV18
4. PSA V1801

In most cases I prefer duals to singles and I feel that subs are the best place to stretch your budget.
More comparable to 15" subs in what way? Deep bass below 30hz? Above that I don't think there is a 15" sub out there that comes close. I also don't think ranking subs based output below 30hz is really a ideal standard either. V1801 is in a class of it's own being it is more compact then most 15" ported subs with similar output down deep but has more output up top then some of the larger 18's.

I do agree with your ranking 1-4. Sounds about right.
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For me, the v3601 hits the sweet spot: tremendous output and TR, imho the best value for big subs in the industry. Hard to imagine wanting or needing more than a pair of these.


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I can only imagine how awesome they sound. For me it is not the price that scares me as much as the size. Im just not sure my room can handle them. But for what it is worth I would love to have them.

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I have heard that the Rythmiks are great for music on more than one occasion. While that is awesome, and the sub will be used for music, it will be heavily used for movies, which push me towards PSA.

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If you're down to the fv15hp or v1801, don't stress too much as you're getting a top notch product either way. Here's one user review from someone who recently auditioned both in his system.

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So both subs arrived on Thursday but I was so tired from work I was not able to review them until this passed weekend. Man oh man let me tell you first let me start off by saying both subs were everything I was hoping for and more. So over the weekend I watched about 4 or 5 movies that were BASS heavy. I first watched behind enemy lines along with Thor and Batman vs Superman, also a little kids movie for my daughter in which I can not remember the name to. I first audition the Rythmik FV15HP and this subs is amazing. In my house this sub was able to go as low as 10Hz, 15hz with no problem at all. Between the two this one digged deeper in the lower FR. The overall sound quality was amazing and I almost ended up buying this one . I really have nothing bad to say about the FV15HP job well done Rythmik. Now on to the PSA V1801, man oh man this sub is like night and day compared to the 15V's I had previously, don't get me wrong I like the 15's but they were not strong enough in the lower FR in my theater. They just did not get me excited when it was called upon to hit me in the gut so to speak. Well with the V1801 I had no such problem at all. It really made my seats become a massage chair when it was called upon for bass and I mean BASS. My wife was not to excited at first about me upgrading and trying to get duals because to her the 15V's were more than enough. Not until she felt the beast of this thing. She could not believe how much air was flowing through the ports and how much clean bass was coming out of them. Now I mention earlier that the Rythmik produce a deeper bass response, however the PSA was much stronger overall as far as raw output. So even though the Rythmik dig deeper the PSA had a stronger feeling when producing the lows because of the stronger amp. So for that reason alone we decided to go with the PSA also because it was smaller as well (WAF). Overall job well done for both companies but I am going with the V1801 and will eventually get another one as well.



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Hey Tom,

Thanks for sharing! I have heard nothing but great things about your products and great customer service! How would the two of your V1801's compare to one of the V3601? I do think I would love to have the V3601, but just not sure I will be able to get it into my room, also may have an issue with it over powering everything else. Not to mention turning my house into a pile of rubble lol. Also if I do end up purchasing one of your subs, what is the shipping time like?

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I have heard nothing but great things!!
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I have heard that the Rythmiks are great for music on more than one occasion. While that is awesome, and the sub will be used for music, it will be heavily used for movies, which push me towards PSA.



Hey Tom,

Thanks for sharing! I have heard nothing but great things about your products and great customer service! How would the two of your V1801's compare to one of the V3601? I do think I would love to have the V3601, but just not sure I will be able to get it into my room, also may have an issue with it over powering everything else. Not to mention turning my house into a pile of rubble lol. Also if I do end up purchasing one of your subs, what is the shipping time like?
Hi DWV,

First, I'm comvinced that any well engineered subwoofer---JL, Seaton, Hsu, us , etc...will all sound great with music. Almost every brand with have their own marketing "claims" about what they do special that makes their products sound better than anything else in the universe But, look for actual evidence to support that. To make an easy analogy...look at the thousand dollar a foot speaker wire out there. You can even find plenty of customers who swear on their lives how it made such huge improvements in "accuracy". But when there's any type of bias controlled listening sessions those differences are suddenly inaudible.

Dual V1801 would perform very similar to one V3601 assuming you have them stacked. The further apart you place them the more likely you'll benefit by smoothing out the negative impact the room can have on the bass response. But you're looking at about $500 more too...so you need to decide how much that POTENTIAL benefit is worth. I stress potential in this scenario because the benefits involved will often depend a good bit on the placement flexibility you have. The more flexibility, the more likely you'll hear audible benefits.

A new V1801 or V3601 order would ship within one business day at the moment. We're very low on some inventory but we have a couple of truck loads scheduled to arrive before the end of the month.

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@DrockinWV , there should be some V1801s arriving at PSA that I sent back! Keep an eye out for them in the Outlet!
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Hi DWV,

First, I'm comvinced that any well engineered subwoofer---JL, Seaton, Hsu, us , etc...will all sound great with music. Almost every brand with have their own marketing "claims" about what they do special that makes their products sound better than anything else in the universe But, look for actual evidence to support that. To make an easy analogy...look at the thousand dollar a foot speaker wire out there. You can even find plenty of customers who swear on their lives how it made such huge improvements in "accuracy". But when there's any type of bias controlled listening sessions those differences are suddenly inaudible.

Dual V1801 would perform very similar to one V3601 assuming you have them stacked. The further apart you place them the more likely you'll benefit by smoothing out the negative impact the room can have on the bass response. But you're looking at about $500 more too...so you need to decide how much that POTENTIAL benefit is worth. I stress potential in this scenario because the benefits involved will often depend a good bit on the placement flexibility you have. The more flexibility, the more likely you'll hear audible benefits.

A new V1801 or V3601 order would ship within one business day at the moment. We're very low on some inventory but we have a couple of truck loads scheduled to arrive before the end of the month.

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I think if I go with the V3601, it will be a single sub, that is all I have room for. But going V1801 I would probably do two, but it would be a little down the road before I could grab the second.

That V3601 is such an attention grabber though, it makes me want to just go with that.
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I think if I go with the V3601, it will be a single sub, that is all I have room for. But going V1801 I would probably do two, but it would be a little down the road before I could grab the second.

That V3601 is such an attention grabber though, it makes me want to just go with that.
If you want to go with shock factor, it's really the right thing:
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If you want to go with shock factor, it's really the right thing:
My god! Thats absurd, but I like it. I wouldnt know where to start, or know how to get it moved into my room.
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My god! Thats absurd, but I like it. I wouldnt know where to start, or know how to get it moved into my room.
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My god! Thats absurd, but I like it. I wouldnt know where to start, or know how to get it moved into my room.
My wife helped. Once we got it in the door we put it on some furniture sliders. Your friends will also wonder what it is and think you're nuts. That's worth a lot right there.
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That's not bad at all. What are you +/-4 db? I'd take that any day. Good work.


Got my minidsp today...this is the result after setting up and doing the eq with minidsp first than running Audyssey. I am crossing over at 80hz.




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My god! Thats absurd, but I like it. I wouldnt know where to start, or know how to get it moved into my room.


If you think the V3601 is big, have you seen the s7201? It’s like Crocodile Dundee bringing out his Bowie knife and saying, that’s not a knife, THIS is a knife!


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