Official Power Sound Audio Subwoofer Thread - Page 1613 - AVS Forum | Home Theater Discussions And Reviews
Forum Jump: 
 78201Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #48361 of 57534 Old 04-28-2019, 08:39 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
David Charles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Amherst, Ohio
Posts: 1,291
Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1109 Post(s)
Liked: 1888
Official Power Sound Audio Subwoofer Thread

So given that rooms are all different, dsp’s, box types, room treatments, etc, what is the sonic signature of an ipal driver? Im hearing tight and articulate. Anyone with ipal experience care to chime in on what i could possibly expect vs dual s3601s?
I will say that I’m +\- 3 db from 10 hz to 120 hz with these duals in my room currrently. These iPals should wreck vs these dual s3601s below 20 hz id imagine.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Last edited by David Charles; 04-28-2019 at 08:50 AM.
David Charles is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #48362 of 57534 Old 04-28-2019, 09:13 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
David Charles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Amherst, Ohio
Posts: 1,291
Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1109 Post(s)
Liked: 1888
Official Power Sound Audio Subwoofer Thread

So I need some advice, which set up do you think would look better with these two new iPals. Both locations measure really with my dual sealed subs and I’m inclined to think they either location would be ok. Edit: I feel like the imaging of my speakers would be a lot better without a large sub woofer directly to the left and right of my speakers. The center channel would be a little bit lower but I can angle it up and it really isn’t much lower than where I sit during movies. All my electronics would be to the left and right of my center channel but it never looks quite as clean as it does in the cabinet that they are currently in. There’s also room for MTM 210s if I lay them down But that is something that will come in time


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
CallingMrBenzo likes this.

Last edited by David Charles; 04-28-2019 at 09:18 AM.
David Charles is offline  
post #48363 of 57534 Old 04-28-2019, 09:29 AM
Senior Member
 
Todeseng3l's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 354
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 320 Post(s)
Liked: 532
Quote:
Originally Posted by zeuspaul View Post
What are the extra two screens for? Is that a sports setup?
Yeah during football season all the screens come out. Without the RF7s to act as stands, I had to vertically integrate at my new home
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	41420762_10102959722080265_1274914716300345344_n.jpg
Views:	141
Size:	72.7 KB
ID:	2559424  
zeuspaul, oneeyeblind and flat4 like this.
Todeseng3l is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #48364 of 57534 Old 04-28-2019, 10:10 AM
Member
 
Uber Archetype's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Front Range, CO
Posts: 109
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 73 Post(s)
Liked: 91
FWIW on the Klipsch topic, I've been listening to Forte-IIs up front in my basement system (the good one!) For going on 30 years now and never felt an impulse for anything else. Except for the V3611, it's all Klipsch (3 different vintages) 7.1.

Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk
ahblaza, gbreda and drh3b like this.

System: Multiple
Brands: Too many to mention
Great Sound: Everywhere, all the time!
Uber Archetype is offline  
post #48365 of 57534 Old 04-28-2019, 10:52 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
subacabra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Hillsborough, New Jersey
Posts: 2,982
Mentioned: 64 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1977 Post(s)
Liked: 5807
Quote:
Originally Posted by David Charles View Post
So I need some advice, which set up do you think would look better with these two new iPals. Both locations measure really with my dual sealed subs and I’m inclined to think they either location would be ok. Edit: I feel like the imaging of my speakers would be a lot better without a large sub woofer directly to the left and right of my speakers. The center channel would be a little bit lower but I can angle it up and it really isn’t much lower than where I sit during movies. All my electronics would be to the left and right of my center channel but it never looks quite as clean as it does in the cabinet that they are currently in. There’s also room for MTM 210s if I lay them down But that is something that will come in time


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I vote for laying them down and putting the avr, amp and center(angled up in front of course) on top of the subs. I think that would look sweet!
Or the first option would be killer too, you can keep the neat stand/fireplace and there shouldn't be anything wacky by having the subs next to your mains.
Both options would rock.
Ps I'm taking a personal on June 15th! Lol
Party time!!
subacabra is online now  
post #48366 of 57534 Old 04-28-2019, 11:28 AM
AVS Forum Addicted Member
 
basshead81's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Fort Wayne, IN
Posts: 14,002
Mentioned: 220 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 382 Post(s)
Liked: 10954
I vote wait for the Ipals to show up in the sealed subs. The TV36's are gonna look like you are trying to stuff 10lbs of **** in a 3lb box in that tiny space.
basshead81 is offline  
post #48367 of 57534 Old 04-28-2019, 11:46 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
David Charles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Amherst, Ohio
Posts: 1,291
Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1109 Post(s)
Liked: 1888
Quote:
Originally Posted by basshead81 View Post
I vote wait for the Ipals to show up in the sealed subs. The TV36's are gonna look like you are trying to stuff 10lbs of **** in a 3lb box in that tiny space.


I wholeheartedly agree with you but the fact of the matter is Tom’s not even sure he’s going that route. Also since I moved upstairs to an open floor plan, I could benefit more from the ported design. It’s definitely a lot of sh*t with my room treatments and speakers but that’s the way it goes since I don’t have a dedicated room.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
David Charles is offline  
post #48368 of 57534 Old 04-28-2019, 11:46 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
David Charles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Amherst, Ohio
Posts: 1,291
Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1109 Post(s)
Liked: 1888
Quote:
Originally Posted by David Charles View Post
I wholeheartedly agree with you but the fact of the matter is Tom’s not even sure he’s going that route. Also since I moved upstairs to an open floor plan, I could benefit more from the ported design. It’s definitely a lot of sh*t with my room treatments and speakers but that’s the way it goes since I don’t have a dedicated room.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


I also don’t think it will look as cluttered if I lay those subs down


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
David Charles is offline  
post #48369 of 57534 Old 04-28-2019, 12:10 PM
Advanced Member
 
muscles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Costa Mesa, CA 92627
Posts: 763
Mentioned: 99 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 950 Post(s)
Liked: 1559
Quote:
Originally Posted by subacabra View Post
I vote for laying them down and putting the avr, amp and center(angled up in front of course) on top of the subs. I think that would look sweet!
Or the first option would be killer too, you can keep the neat stand/fireplace and there shouldn't be anything wacky by having the subs next to your mains.
Both options would rock.
Ps I'm taking a personal on June 15th! Lol
Party time!!

I hope I am not high-jacking this thread but I run a similarly shaped dual sub configuration on its side and I think it looks pretty amazing. The sound it gives up front has a ton of tactile feel as well. Still dialing it in exactly to how I want but it has proved to be pretty cool. Not sure if this will help you, but it turned out decent.



Also, I can't wait to hear the impressions of the new subs, anxiously awaiting some first thoughts!



Any news on PSA speakers? I thought I heard a rumor of some new models?




Greg
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	20190428_120532.jpg
Views:	141
Size:	761.9 KB
ID:	2559494  
Alan P, SuperFist, ahblaza and 8 others like this.

Subwoofers: Dual JTR RS1's - SB13 Ultra (bedroom)
Speakers: 2xJTR Noesis 212RT 1 210RM - KEF LS50W
Audio:McIntosh C2600 Pre - Marantz SR-8012 -Dual McIntosh 601's - PS Audio M700 - McIntosh MT5 - GoldNotePH10 - Oppo UDP-205 - BlueSound Node 2
TV: Samsung 75" Q9FN - Sony 75" 940D
muscles is offline  
post #48370 of 57534 Old 04-28-2019, 12:43 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Gorilla Killa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Next in line for a coveted Red Button
Posts: 3,335
Mentioned: 39 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1630 Post(s)
Liked: 2441
The Qts on the Ipal is way to low to be putting it in a sealed box. The motor and q are meant for ported. You would be leaving way too much on the table. You could do it but there are better options including what PSA already offers.

I guess you could do a 3way but the Bms18 would be a better option.

Maybe Tom could offer a 25hz tuned Horn

Last edited by Gorilla Killa; 04-28-2019 at 01:09 PM.
Gorilla Killa is online now  
post #48371 of 57534 Old 04-28-2019, 02:29 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
ereed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 3,689
Mentioned: 124 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2466 Post(s)
Liked: 1765
Quote:
Originally Posted by David Charles View Post
So I need some advice, which set up do you think would look better with these two new iPals. Both locations measure really with my dual sealed subs and I’m inclined to think they either location would be ok. Edit: I feel like the imaging of my speakers would be a lot better without a large sub woofer directly to the left and right of my speakers. The center channel would be a little bit lower but I can angle it up and it really isn’t much lower than where I sit during movies. All my electronics would be to the left and right of my center channel but it never looks quite as clean as it does in the cabinet that they are currently in. There’s also room for MTM 210s if I lay them down But that is something that will come in time


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Not every sub will have same bass response from same position with each other. Just because sub A measured well flanking the center doesn't mean sub B will. You would still need to get out REW and play with sub placement if you want optimal performance. While it may look best in one spot it may or may not have the best freq response.
Mike Butny likes this.

Theater room: Sony 45es | 120" screen | Panasonic BDT500 | Rotel RMB-1077 | Outlaw Audio 976 | Klipsch RP-280F/RP-450C/RP-160M | Funk Audio 18.0L (2), 21.0LX (2 coming soon) | MiniDSP 2x4HD | Crowson Tech MAs | Surgex XR 315 | CyberPower UPS | GIK room treatments

TV Room: Panny 60 inch | Rotel RMB-1075 | Rotel RSP-1068 | Axiom Audio M60/VP150/QS8 |
ereed is offline  
post #48372 of 57534 Old 04-28-2019, 02:41 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
David Charles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Amherst, Ohio
Posts: 1,291
Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1109 Post(s)
Liked: 1888
Quote:
Originally Posted by ereed View Post
Not every sub will have same bass response from same position with each other. Just because sub A measured well flanking the center doesn't mean sub B will. You would still need to get out REW and play with sub placement if you want optimal performance. While it may look best in one spot it may or may not have the best freq response.


Of course


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
David Charles is offline  
post #48373 of 57534 Old 04-28-2019, 03:41 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
gbreda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,095
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 634 Post(s)
Liked: 1175
Quote:
Originally Posted by ereed View Post
Not every sub will have same bass response from same position with each other. Just because sub A measured well flanking the center doesn't mean sub B will. You would still need to get out REW and play with sub placement if you want optimal performance. While it may look best in one spot it may or may not have the best freq response.
Exactly. But if one is better than the other, the combined result may leave something behind but yet still yield satisfaction. Ah, the challenges of a combined purpose room.

My setup with dual up front has one sub with really good response and the other with not as good, but not really bad either.

Combined is really good.

REW is definitely needed to see all of this.
gbreda is offline  
post #48374 of 57534 Old 04-28-2019, 04:02 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Mike Butny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Orland Park, Il
Posts: 2,333
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1233 Post(s)
Liked: 2919
Quote:
Originally Posted by gbreda View Post
Very true in price to performance.

I cant imagine the S36XX wouldn't be an upgrade, especially if larger area?
The S36## series is an upgrade BUT it rolls off faster after it's native frequency response compared to the S300/S311I series subs.
SuperFist, ahblaza, gbreda and 1 others like this.

Equipment List: JVC RS500, Darbee DVP-5000S Video Processor, JKP Affinity 100 inch 16x9 .9 gain reference screen, Panasonic UB420, Marantz SR7013 Receiver, 3-Marantz Ma700 and 2-Ma6100 monoblocks, 7.4.2 Atmos, B&W Nautilus 805 front speakers, B&W Nautilus HTM2 center speaker, 2 Volt 6 Atmos Speakers, Mirage HDT-R side speakers, Jamo THX surround one rear speakers, 2 LaVoce 21inch Neo DIY subs and 2 PSA S3600I'S.

Last edited by Mike Butny; 04-30-2019 at 03:01 PM.
Mike Butny is offline  
post #48375 of 57534 Old 04-28-2019, 04:11 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Mike Butny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Orland Park, Il
Posts: 2,333
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1233 Post(s)
Liked: 2919
Quote:
Originally Posted by basshead81 View Post
I vote wait for the Ipals to show up in the sealed subs. The TV36's are gonna look like you are trying to stuff 10lbs of **** in a 3lb box in that tiny space.
I thought about that too but the B&C drivers are more geared toward ported/vented in a large box if you want to get the most out of them. Click the link below and compare B&C's 21inch Neo vs a UM18-22 in a sealed cabinet and below 50hz the UM18-22 wins and we are talking a 21inch driver vs an 18inch driver.



https://data-bass.com/data?page=system&id=72&mset=78
ahblaza and flat4 like this.

Equipment List: JVC RS500, Darbee DVP-5000S Video Processor, JKP Affinity 100 inch 16x9 .9 gain reference screen, Panasonic UB420, Marantz SR7013 Receiver, 3-Marantz Ma700 and 2-Ma6100 monoblocks, 7.4.2 Atmos, B&W Nautilus 805 front speakers, B&W Nautilus HTM2 center speaker, 2 Volt 6 Atmos Speakers, Mirage HDT-R side speakers, Jamo THX surround one rear speakers, 2 LaVoce 21inch Neo DIY subs and 2 PSA S3600I'S.

Last edited by Mike Butny; 04-28-2019 at 06:50 PM.
Mike Butny is offline  
post #48376 of 57534 Old 04-28-2019, 04:15 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Mike Butny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Orland Park, Il
Posts: 2,333
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1233 Post(s)
Liked: 2919
Quote:
Originally Posted by ahblaza View Post
I hear where you're coming from, I posted the V18s graph showing the drop off from 20Hz down to 15Hz for that specific reason, if you look at his S36 response from that range he's down 13dB from 15-20Hz not typical for that sub at least not that steep, with my corrected response with the S36s I'm down 5-6dB from 20 to 10Hz...more typical shallower roll off. After reading all he did to correct this I'm thinking he needs another (sub)s to get what he wants. @Mike Butny could probably chime in on this as well.
If under 18hz is a concern I would pick up 1-2 S300I-S3111I series subs as they roll off slower than PSA 18's do- OR get PSA's quad 18inch sealed MONSTER and call it the day.

Equipment List: JVC RS500, Darbee DVP-5000S Video Processor, JKP Affinity 100 inch 16x9 .9 gain reference screen, Panasonic UB420, Marantz SR7013 Receiver, 3-Marantz Ma700 and 2-Ma6100 monoblocks, 7.4.2 Atmos, B&W Nautilus 805 front speakers, B&W Nautilus HTM2 center speaker, 2 Volt 6 Atmos Speakers, Mirage HDT-R side speakers, Jamo THX surround one rear speakers, 2 LaVoce 21inch Neo DIY subs and 2 PSA S3600I'S.
Mike Butny is offline  
post #48377 of 57534 Old 04-28-2019, 04:19 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
gbreda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,095
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 634 Post(s)
Liked: 1175
Just pulled up my last sweeps from a year ago

Pretty good for symmetrical placement
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Compression 4-15-18.jpg
Views:	99
Size:	131.5 KB
ID:	2559568  
gbreda is offline  
post #48378 of 57534 Old 04-28-2019, 04:24 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Mike Butny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Orland Park, Il
Posts: 2,333
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1233 Post(s)
Liked: 2919
Quote:
Originally Posted by basshead81 View Post
All I can say every time I talk with Tom about subs which has been quite a bit lately, he always brings the 3000i into the discussion. I mention "even over the S36" he says "performance vs size vs dollar without a doubt".

He even threw me a quote for trading my 3 ported 15's for 3 3010's and I didn't ask for that, I just asked what would be the most cost effective upgrade for 10hz extension in my room.

We initially discussed the TV36 but he doesn't think it would be a good choice to mix with my current subs due to different tunes. So we we're mulling around some different options.
I agree 100% and 3 S3000I series subs in Cherry would look great in your room. When I traded in my S3000I sub for a S3600I sub I actually lost output below 17hz that's why I through 2 UM18-22 drivers into the mix. @basshead81 , I really think for your living room space 3 S3000I series subs are the way to go as they would provide the output/extension to 10hz that you desire and with the subs being so close to the MLP I think these subs would be the last subs you own until you move and get into a dedicated theater room.

Equipment List: JVC RS500, Darbee DVP-5000S Video Processor, JKP Affinity 100 inch 16x9 .9 gain reference screen, Panasonic UB420, Marantz SR7013 Receiver, 3-Marantz Ma700 and 2-Ma6100 monoblocks, 7.4.2 Atmos, B&W Nautilus 805 front speakers, B&W Nautilus HTM2 center speaker, 2 Volt 6 Atmos Speakers, Mirage HDT-R side speakers, Jamo THX surround one rear speakers, 2 LaVoce 21inch Neo DIY subs and 2 PSA S3600I'S.
Mike Butny is offline  
post #48379 of 57534 Old 04-28-2019, 04:27 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Mike Butny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Orland Park, Il
Posts: 2,333
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1233 Post(s)
Liked: 2919
Quote:
Originally Posted by gbreda View Post
Just pulled up my last sweeps from a year ago

Pretty good for symmetrical placement
I would pick up 1 more S3000I series sub and call it a day. To be honest you can call it a day right now as you are at or very close to the reference down to 8hz. Nicely done.
SuperFist, ahblaza and gbreda like this.

Equipment List: JVC RS500, Darbee DVP-5000S Video Processor, JKP Affinity 100 inch 16x9 .9 gain reference screen, Panasonic UB420, Marantz SR7013 Receiver, 3-Marantz Ma700 and 2-Ma6100 monoblocks, 7.4.2 Atmos, B&W Nautilus 805 front speakers, B&W Nautilus HTM2 center speaker, 2 Volt 6 Atmos Speakers, Mirage HDT-R side speakers, Jamo THX surround one rear speakers, 2 LaVoce 21inch Neo DIY subs and 2 PSA S3600I'S.
Mike Butny is offline  
post #48380 of 57534 Old 04-28-2019, 06:23 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Hopinater's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Central VA
Posts: 7,340
Mentioned: 106 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3885 Post(s)
Liked: 13146
Quote:
Originally Posted by muscles View Post
I hope I am not high-jacking this thread but I run a similarly shaped dual sub configuration on its side and I think it looks pretty amazing. The sound it gives up front has a ton of tactile feel as well. Still dialing it in exactly to how I want but it has proved to be pretty cool. Not sure if this will help you, but it turned out decent.



Also, I can't wait to hear the impressions of the new subs, anxiously awaiting some first thoughts!



Any news on PSA speakers? I thought I heard a rumor of some new models?




Greg
That rumor be true. Tom's talking about coming out with some active speakers that look to be pricey but very intriguing.
oneeyeblind, muscles and flat4 like this.

Subwoofers: PSA TV36 iPal X2 ...Speakers: PSA MTM-210T L/R - PSA MTM-210C Center- PSA MT110SR's Surrounds - PSA MT110's Rear - RSL C34E Atmos... Motion Actuators: Crowson Shadow 8 - X2
Video: Samsung UN65KS9000 4K SUHD - Oppo UDP-203... AVR:Denon X4400... Gaming: XBOX ONE S
Hopinater is online now  
post #48381 of 57534 Old 04-28-2019, 06:37 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Hopinater's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Central VA
Posts: 7,340
Mentioned: 106 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3885 Post(s)
Liked: 13146
Quote:
Originally Posted by basshead81 View Post
All I can say every time I talk with Tom about subs which has been quite a bit lately, he always brings the 3000i into the discussion. I mention "even over the S36" he says "performance vs size vs dollar without a doubt".

He even threw me a quote for trading my 3 ported 15's for 3 3010's and I didn't ask for that, I just asked what would be the most cost effective upgrade for 10hz extension in my room.

We initially discussed the TV36 but he doesn't think it would be a good choice to mix with my current subs due to different tunes. So we we're mulling around some different options.
Hey! Who are you and what did you do to my friend Basshead? Basshead likes ported subs!

Just kidding... BH what ever you decide to do I can honestly tell you that you can't go wrong with the sealed PSA lineup. My S1801 is great. It's has such a nice sound signature that I often find myself stopping what I'm doing just to listen to how beautifully its playing the song I'm listening to. It also works well in my living room for movies which is on a suspended floor and (IIRC) I believe your HT is on a suspended floor. So three S3010 should work really great for both music and movies in that room.

I would have loved to see you get a TV36 but I was a little concerned at the nightmare you might encounter trying to get the LT of the TV36 working with the high port tune of the XV15 ICE but I figured if anyone could do it you could.

I look forward to what ever you decide to do. Unless you decide not to upgrade... that would be sad. You've waited long enough, it's time for an upgrade... you've earned it! (this message was brought to you by your friendly neighborhood enabler).

Subwoofers: PSA TV36 iPal X2 ...Speakers: PSA MTM-210T L/R - PSA MTM-210C Center- PSA MT110SR's Surrounds - PSA MT110's Rear - RSL C34E Atmos... Motion Actuators: Crowson Shadow 8 - X2
Video: Samsung UN65KS9000 4K SUHD - Oppo UDP-203... AVR:Denon X4400... Gaming: XBOX ONE S

Last edited by Hopinater; 04-28-2019 at 06:41 PM.
Hopinater is online now  
post #48382 of 57534 Old 04-28-2019, 07:32 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Mike Butny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Orland Park, Il
Posts: 2,333
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1233 Post(s)
Liked: 2919
I think we really do not realize the firepower we own. My oldest son had 4 friends spending the night Friday night as they were all going to see Endgame on Saturday at 12:40 P.M. They wanted to watch a few movies before seeing Endgame, so Friday they watched the 1st Iron Man, 1st Avengers, then mixed it up a little by watching Baby Driver and A Quiet Place. They followed up with Infinity War Saturday morning right before heading to see Endgame. I was upstairs in the family room, which is on the left side of the house compared to the theater, and I was feeling low-frequency energy and tactile feel especially during Baby Driver and A Quiet Place.

Equipment List: JVC RS500, Darbee DVP-5000S Video Processor, JKP Affinity 100 inch 16x9 .9 gain reference screen, Panasonic UB420, Marantz SR7013 Receiver, 3-Marantz Ma700 and 2-Ma6100 monoblocks, 7.4.2 Atmos, B&W Nautilus 805 front speakers, B&W Nautilus HTM2 center speaker, 2 Volt 6 Atmos Speakers, Mirage HDT-R side speakers, Jamo THX surround one rear speakers, 2 LaVoce 21inch Neo DIY subs and 2 PSA S3600I'S.
Mike Butny is offline  
post #48383 of 57534 Old 04-28-2019, 08:51 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
SuperFist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: 🏠
Posts: 2,724
Mentioned: 94 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1743 Post(s)
Liked: 7565
Quote:
Originally Posted by basshead81 View Post
All I can say every time I talk with Tom about subs which has been quite a bit lately, he always brings the 3000i into the discussion. I mention "even over the S36" he says "performance vs size vs dollar without a doubt".

He even threw me a quote for trading my 3 ported 15's for 3 3010's and I didn't ask for that, I just asked what would be the most cost effective upgrade for 10hz extension in my room.

We initially discussed the TV36 but he doesn't think it would be a good choice to mix with my current subs due to different tunes. So we we're mulling around some different options.
Hellz Yeah! The S3000i/S3010 FTW, baby!!!
spyboy, Mike Butny, gbreda and 2 others like this.
SuperFist is offline  
post #48384 of 57534 Old 04-28-2019, 09:52 PM
Member
 
LennS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: San Fernando Valley, CA
Posts: 129
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 72 Post(s)
Liked: 150
I just wanted to thank everyone who offered advice on the PSA speakers. I have just placed my order for a pair of MTM 210T's, and an MTM 210C and I can't wait for them to arrive.
LennS is offline  
post #48385 of 57534 Old 04-29-2019, 03:39 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
gbreda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,095
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 634 Post(s)
Liked: 1175
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Butny View Post
I would pick up 1 more S3000I series sub and call it a day. To be honest you can call it a day right now as you are at or very close to the reference down to 8hz. Nicely done.
I thought the same thing when I pulled up those sweeps. See what this forum does to you

I said it a few weeks ago-it isnt my equipment thats lacking, its the source material.

Ive got to try BEQ
gbreda is offline  
post #48386 of 57534 Old 04-29-2019, 01:07 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Hopinater's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Central VA
Posts: 7,340
Mentioned: 106 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3885 Post(s)
Liked: 13146
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Butny View Post
I think we really do not realize the firepower we own. My oldest son had 4 friends spending the night Friday night as they were all going to see Endgame on Saturday at 12:40 P.M. They wanted to watch a few movies before seeing Endgame, so Friday they watched the 1st Iron Man, 1st Avengers, then mixed it up a little by watching Baby Driver and A Quiet Place. They followed up with Infinity War Saturday morning right before heading to see Endgame. I was upstairs in the family room, which is on the left side of the house compared to the theater, and I was feeling low-frequency energy and tactile feel especially during Baby Driver and A Quiet Place.
You are so right about that Mike. A few years ago we had a moderate earthquake... not too bad but strangely loud. To me it sounded like there was a large freight train running behind our house so I ran outside to see what was going on (all the while wondering when someone installed a train track in my backyard). Then I went back in the house to talk to my wife about the earthquake. She had been upstairs when it hit so I went up there and asked her what she thought and she looked at me and said: "We had an earthquake? I thought you were messing around with your subwoofers again." I gotta be honest... that put a smile on my face.
Alan P, LennS, Mike Butny and 7 others like this.

Subwoofers: PSA TV36 iPal X2 ...Speakers: PSA MTM-210T L/R - PSA MTM-210C Center- PSA MT110SR's Surrounds - PSA MT110's Rear - RSL C34E Atmos... Motion Actuators: Crowson Shadow 8 - X2
Video: Samsung UN65KS9000 4K SUHD - Oppo UDP-203... AVR:Denon X4400... Gaming: XBOX ONE S
Hopinater is online now  
post #48387 of 57534 Old 04-29-2019, 01:24 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Mike Butny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Orland Park, Il
Posts: 2,333
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1233 Post(s)
Liked: 2919
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hopinater View Post
You are so right about that Mike. A few years ago we had a moderate earthquake... not too bad but strangely loud. To me it sounded like there was a large freight train running behind our house so I ran outside to see what was going on (all the while wondering when someone installed a train track in my backyard). Then I went back in the house to talk to my wife about the earthquake. She had been upstairs when it hit so I went up there and asked her what she thought and she looked at me and said: "We had an earthquake? I thought you were messing around with your subwoofers again." I gotta be honest... that put a smile on my face.

Hop your story brings back a memory. I was living in a townhome at the time and the wife and I only had 1 child at that time. We were in the family room watching a movie and I felt the floor vibrating but it did not coincide with the scene in the movie. This happened a few times within seconds and I sat there a little confused then I saw the walls of our house slightly bend back and forth and then the Wife and I jumped out from the couch and ran upstairs to get our son from his crib. While it was very minor I will never forget that feeling.


Edit: The Wife and I also had a tornado touch down while we were on our way to her High School reunion. The tornado was far away but that didn't stop my Wife from hitting the gas pedal like the tornado was right behind us . I was yelling at her to turn around and let's get the dog.
Hopinater likes this.

Equipment List: JVC RS500, Darbee DVP-5000S Video Processor, JKP Affinity 100 inch 16x9 .9 gain reference screen, Panasonic UB420, Marantz SR7013 Receiver, 3-Marantz Ma700 and 2-Ma6100 monoblocks, 7.4.2 Atmos, B&W Nautilus 805 front speakers, B&W Nautilus HTM2 center speaker, 2 Volt 6 Atmos Speakers, Mirage HDT-R side speakers, Jamo THX surround one rear speakers, 2 LaVoce 21inch Neo DIY subs and 2 PSA S3600I'S.

Last edited by Mike Butny; 04-29-2019 at 01:31 PM.
Mike Butny is offline  
post #48388 of 57534 Old 04-29-2019, 01:33 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Hopinater's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Central VA
Posts: 7,340
Mentioned: 106 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3885 Post(s)
Liked: 13146
Quote:
Originally Posted by LennS View Post
I just wanted to thank everyone who offered advice on the PSA speakers. I have just placed my order for a pair of MTM 210T's, and an MTM 210C and I can't wait for them to arrive.
That's awesome... Congratulations. Be sure to share your impressions here when you get them and also stop in over at the PSA speaker thread and let those guys know what you think.

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/89-sp...er-thread.html
LennS, Mike Butny and ahblaza like this.

Subwoofers: PSA TV36 iPal X2 ...Speakers: PSA MTM-210T L/R - PSA MTM-210C Center- PSA MT110SR's Surrounds - PSA MT110's Rear - RSL C34E Atmos... Motion Actuators: Crowson Shadow 8 - X2
Video: Samsung UN65KS9000 4K SUHD - Oppo UDP-203... AVR:Denon X4400... Gaming: XBOX ONE S
Hopinater is online now  
post #48389 of 57534 Old 04-29-2019, 03:29 PM
Member
 
LennS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: San Fernando Valley, CA
Posts: 129
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 72 Post(s)
Liked: 150
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hopinater View Post
That's awesome... Congratulations. Be sure to share your impressions here when you get them and also stop in over at the PSA speaker thread and let those guys know what you think.

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/89-sp...er-thread.html
Thanks I appreciate it. I will be sure to stop in and share my impressions here and in the PSA speaker thread.
oneeyeblind and ahblaza like this.
LennS is offline  
post #48390 of 57534 Old 04-30-2019, 06:08 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
David Charles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Amherst, Ohio
Posts: 1,291
Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1109 Post(s)
Liked: 1888
I am getting anxious on how these new LT subs perform and just general pictures, discussions, etc. Mid May cant come quick enough! I have my room all organized for these 2 ipals to fit. An hour of calibration and REW testing once I get them in my house and Ill be back to rocking out!!!

How are things in house @Tom Vodhanel
David Charles is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply Subwoofers, Bass, and Transducers

Tags
chuffitychuffchuff , chuffmaster , Denon Avr 3313ci Receiver , Denon Avr 4520ci Receiver , Denon Avr X4000 7 2 Channel Home Theater Receiver , hr chuff'n'stuff , ipal , neo , Power Sound Audio , Power Sound Audio Triax , Room Equilizer Wizard Rew , s1512 , s3000i , S3600i , s7201 , tv36 , tv42 , v1500 , v1512 , V1800 , v1801 , V3600i , Velodyne Sms 1 In Room Bass Correction Kit With Included Microphone , Xs30 , Xv15

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off