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This is going to make for a nice little work desk sub


Did you use REW to get the optimal placement for that?
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Had to take it out to check for any damage as there was a hole in bottom of the box, but thankfully everything was fine. And then a co-worker that is a DJ just had to hear it so of course I obliged.

Now I only have two problems:

1) Everyone in my office thinks I'm insane.

2) I have to go meet with HR 'cause I blew some poor girl's clothes off when I cranked it up...
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^^^^ He's going to be spending a lot of time in HR's office or not a lot because the first time he fires that thing up he will be unemployed.

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I'd be a bit concerned having a magnet that large that close to my PC!
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That's awesome. Be sure to use the minidsp to get a house curve working for you.
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I'd flip it around so the amp was facing the other way because I'd be scared about breaking off a connector/plug with my feet.

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Anyone in of travels through Ohio looking to get rid of there old Psa subs let me know I neeeeed more hahha I hate this forum
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This is going to make for a nice little work desk sub


Dang...that is hardcore! Dual 15's and no main speakers....winning!
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^^^

When you implemented the EQ1, did your overall SPL from the sub drop?

With a flat response, most folks like to bump up the sub trim a few db to bring the whole bottom end back up, essentially creating a "house curve".
I want to say "no"... but only because I don't remember

It's funny, though. I know that the EQ1 is supposed to be really great, but I had a hard time figuring it out. The more I read about it and the more I tweak things, the better it gets.

By the way, Alan, did you have a hard time incorporating your duals? My space is much smaller (16x13x8), but I wander if size of room influences the level of difficulty of having duals.

Yippee-ki-yay...
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Dang...that is hardcore! Dual 15's and no main speakers....winning!

What are you talking about? I see some speakers on his desk by his monitors!..lol
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Dang...that is hardcore! Dual 15's and no main speakers....winning!

Look closer. His "mains" are underneath each monitor.
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^^^ I'm sure those coke can speakers can keep up just fine with that behemoth lurking underneath.

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I want to say "no"... but only because I don't remember

It's funny, though. I know that the EQ1 is supposed to be really great, but I had a hard time figuring it out. The more I read about it and the more I tweak things, the better it gets.

By the way, Alan, did you have a hard time incorporating your duals? My space is much smaller (16x13x8), but I wander if size of room influences the level of difficulty of having duals.
Define "hard"?

Before the dual T-18s I had quad XS15s....now that was hard...and ultimately an utter failure in my room, hence the dual T-18s.

The T-18s were relatively easy to get working well together though, after I got the XT32 AVR everything sounds awesome.
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Now I only have two problems:

1) Everyone in my office thinks I'm insane.

2) I have to go meet with HR 'cause I blew some poor girl's clothes off when I cranked it up...
Pics?
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Anyone in of travels through Ohio looking to get rid of there old Psa subs let me know I neeeeed more hahha I hate this forum
I got an XS15SE by Chicago if you want to take a drive and get it
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Can't really drive more then a hour.
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What are you talking about? I see some speakers on his desk by his monitors!..lol
If that is what you want to call those...I bet the sub has enough bass you can not even tell there is any mids or highs. Lol
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Look closer. His "mains" are underneath each monitor.
I know this...some of you have a very dry sense of humor.
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Just to clarify, as it seems that some may have taken my post just a liiiiittle bit more serious than I had intended; I am not using the S3000i in my cubicle. And those are just some crappy speakers that were floating around the office. Mostly use them to listen to voicemails that are forwarded to my email inbox along with the occasional Spotify stream at very low levels.

I will hopefully get you all some more complete thoughts as I spend some more time with it in the coming days. Only got a few minutes with it in the theater space before my two year old son had to go to bed.
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I have read in some threads that some people who got Antimode ended up disconnecting it because they felt like it neutered the sub. Has anyone used it at all? I'm curious to hear their thoughts.
I used it for a couple of years when I had a Pioneer SC-05 as my AV receiver since MCACC does not EQ subwoofers. I had good results with it in my set up and never felt it neutered my sub. It is so simple to use and is a great option if you just want to basically plug and play!
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I used it for a couple of years when I had a Pioneer SC-05 as my AV receiver since MCACC does not EQ subwoofers. I had good results with it in my set up and never felt it neutered my sub. It is so simple to use and is a great option if you just want to basically plug and play!
MCACC didn't used to do sub eq but it does now. I have an SC-63 which has MCACC Advanced but they just recently added the sub EQ. MCACC Pro looks like it should EQ dual subs. Personally I would love to add a 2nd v1500 and jump the SC-85 with MCACC pro and Atmos

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Just to clarify, as it seems that some may have taken my post just a liiiiittle bit more serious than I had intended; I am not using the S3000i in my cubicle. And those are just some crappy speakers that were floating around the office. Mostly use them to listen to voicemails that are forwarded to my email inbox along with the occasional Spotify stream at very low levels.

I will hopefully get you all some more complete thoughts as I spend some more time with it in the coming days. Only got a few minutes with it in the theater space before my two year old son had to go to bed.
Yes I figured that...perhaps my post was a poor attempt to make a funny.
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I just listened to a whole cd with my receiver set on Direct! D'OH! I was wondering why the bass wasn't impressing me.
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I just listened to a whole cd with my receiver set on Direct! D'OH! I was wondering why the bass wasn't impressing me.
LOL…. That probably had you scratching your head for awhile.
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To properly time-align multiple subs with the MiniDSP, all you need is a tape measure and a calculator.

Measure the the distance from MLP to furthest sub, measure the distance from MLP to closest sub. Calculate the difference (sub1 is 15', sub 2 is 5', difference = 10'). Use MiniDSP to add 10' of delay to closer sub.

This will get you in the ballpark, you can fine tune while measuring with REW for the smoothest response.

After you get the subs time-aligned with each other, you then run Audyssey (or whatever auto-EQ you have) then perform the sub distance tweak to get the sub "system" in-phase with the CC/main speakers.

I was under the impression that with subwoofer sound waves actually being longer than the room that it is desirable in a multi sub room to use delay to excite different room modes rather than time aligning the subs and getting max output at one listening position while not getting the benefit of more even response across all seats? Have I miss understood this phenomenon? If they are truly time aligned wouldn't I just be dealing with the same peaks and valleys in the response due to the room modes that are active?


Thanks for the information!
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So I gave the higher crossovers a shot, and I have mixed feelings about them. There is certainly more bass which is cool, but i feel like it's at the cost of detail. Action scenes have more power but voices and dialogue don't sound as good to me, which seems weird but it's what is happening.

I'll keep messing with it, but for now I think I'll stick with 80 hz for my movies and critical listening. At least now I know I can bump it up for parties or social gatherings to really wow people.

It is weird because most human voices are over 120Hz so there should be no loss of detail. I have been messing around with a 120Hz crossover for my mains and center, I get zero localization and no loss of detail from the speakers. The XV15's seem to play very well up to 120Hz!!
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It is weird because most human voices are over 120Hz so there should be no loss of detail. I have been messing around with a 120Hz crossover for my mains and center, I get zero localization and no loss of detail from the speakers. The XV15's seem to play very well up to 120Hz!!
Yeah I agree, it was the deeper voices that didn't sound right to me though. They still sounded good, they were just missing a certain quality I have become accustomed to and enjoy.

This seems to be the minority though, most people seem to be loving the higher crossovers and I can see why.
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So I gave the higher crossovers a shot, and I have mixed feelings about them. There is certainly more bass which is cool, but i feel like it's at the cost of detail. Action scenes have more power but voices and dialogue don't sound as good to me, which seems weird but it's what is happening.

I'll keep messing with it, but for now I think I'll stick with 80 hz for my movies and critical listening. At least now I know I can bump it up for parties or social gatherings to really wow people.

It is weird because most human voices are over 120Hz so there should be no loss of detail. I have been messing around with a 120Hz crossover for my mains and center, I get zero localization and no loss of detail from the speakers. The XV15's seem to play very well up to 120Hz!!

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Wooo. Carpet goes in monday!! I'll will be back in bass bliss sooner than expected! And better than ever now that I have an enclosed room that is way smaller than I ever had

Looking forward to single digits (since I was close to 10hz already)
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