Originally Posted by checker9
What did you find SVS not having and the others having?
Value ratio just isn't there for SVS anymore, sorry but they have been left behind. SVS is stuck in the 90's only offering 10"/12" drivers on nearly all of their subs IMO. SVS isn't that ID company I picked to do business with years ago, foreign owned now (not bad, but we all know what PSA takes pride in), but more importantly they seem to be putting all their focus on the speaker lines, not their subs. IMO the difference between the SB12 NSD and the SB2000 - meh. That's their big upgrade over the last 5 years besides going with Sledge amps vs. Bash.
If you look at PSA, Reaction Audio, HSU, Rythmik product offerings, new subs they have come out with over the past couple of years, use of ICEAmps (PSA and RA) - the offerings from SVS just don't match up. Keep in mind I spent a nice chunk of change with SVS a year ago when I bought the PC12+. For a while now I have been reading about SVS subs and how they are not musical. Personally I didn't believe it. As I have gotten more into hi-res music (shiny disks), thus listened to more music, I was disappointed with the sound of my system - the lower end of that sound. Bookshelves only get you so far without a good sub or 2 (on this thread 4+
), especially if you are using room correction and cross them at 80 as I do. I had a good talk with Tom about the music performance of his subs, never doubted their ability with movies, bought the v1800 and to be completely honest I spent as much time listening to music this weekend as I did watching movies. Important to note - the v1800 kicks xxx on movies too.
I am not of only output matters camp, even though I know its a huge factor. SVS offers a very good bill of rights, but there are a number of ID that are similar - see PSA as one example. Look at the data-bass site, see how SVS #'s compare to other offerings or DIY solutions. With my new sub, the only thing I would look at now from SVS is an Ultra. Even then I have to say there are better choices at that price point. Another key point, when you get ready to upgrade or add a second - I would rather be talking to Tom instead of who knows who at "corporate" SVS. That is key for me, and a reason I chose to buy my speakers from Ascend. It's great to talk to the owner, the people who designed the products you own or are considering to purchase. Tom (PSA), Brian (Rythmik), Jeremy (RA), and Dr. HSU (one guess) - those ID companies get that.
Sorry for the long reply, not a simple answer. It's one I thought about long and hard before ending up with a PSA in my system. Steve