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TWO money sucking hobbies?!?! I wish it was just two! Please, try RC cars, quads, and helicopters, photography (Canon 300mm F2.8L IS and Canon 400mm F/2.8L IS and 1-series bodies anyone?), audio/video, and guns. I also like cars, but I don't have enough time, cash flow, and large enough garage to be truly serious about them. Thankfully! Why can't I enjoy something less expensive, such as knitting or being quick with a Rubick's cube?

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climber07, you're not kidding about reloading! That also takes a ton of time and a moderate amount of trial and error, despite reload specs from a book, since not all guns like the same mixture of ingredients. Then you have to use a chronometer to verify your speeds to make sure you're not too hot, listening to a tumbler in your basement for 2 days at a time. Bleh! Unless you have your class 3 FFL and emptying hundreds or thousands of rounds a time, it's not worth it for most. At least, in my experience. But reloads can be more accurate if you're that good or using a lead sled.

Back on the topics of subwoofers, ceh383,what are you going to use to run power and signal up to the sub? Dayton wireless RCA kit? Is power already up in your cubby?

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Not to forget the girlfriend - whom luckily loves to try audio/video stuff with me but after some time just walks away when I am still smiling like a little kid in the candy store ;-)

BTT now - I want to hear how the installation above the closet will turn out ;-)
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When talking 12 and 20ga, there's not much savings in reloading. Now if you are talking 28 & .410, it's a different story...
And now back to subs...
I've got everything I need for the install on order or waiting for me at the local hardware store. Everything should be here on Friday, including the sub. Looking forward to getting it all set up
I was thinking 45 ACP but I'd rather be watching a movie with my dual XV15SE subs. That is until I read the latest review on the V3600 that crushes two of my subs. Then I sit and browse the PSA site and load subs into my cart over and over.
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BTT now - I want to hear how the installation above the closet will turn out ;-)
If things go according to plan, I should have it installed and level matched Friday night. But I won't do any serious calibration until I get my miniDSP DDRC-88A

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Long time lurker here...
Just got off a chat w/ Tom V. - super helpful and incredibly nice to boot. Didn't try to steer me up the ladder to the top of my budget, and directed me to what we think is my best option...

So that being said, a new 15v is on the way, should be here this week in time to continue introducing my kids to the Star Wars universe in style.

I'll post some pics and thoughts once I get it hooked up. Now I need to brush up on how to get a sub set-up, measured, dialed-in etc. It's been a long while since I did anything besides run Audyssey and then get distracted by sample material before finishing the process.

Thanks to everyone else in this thread for giving so much informative background info and help to others before me - I think I've only digested a very small portion of it so far.
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So that being said, a new 15v is on the way, should be here this week in time to continue introducing my kids to the Star Wars universe in style.
The Star Wars BDs have a few nice bass moments in them...made me proud of my S1500. Welcome to the fold.
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I was thinking 45 ACP but I'd rather be watching a movie with my dual XV15SE subs. That is until I read the latest review on the V3600 that crushes two of my subs. Then I sit and browse the PSA site and load subs into my cart over and over.
just do it climber....you know you want to. and if it helps, i went from dual xv15se's to a single v3600 and i don't regret it for a second. did someone say second? a second v3600? i shoudn't.....but how awesome woud THAT sound? nah, i should.....i mean shouldn't....baaaahhhhhhhh!

just get yourself a v3600 climber!
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I was thinking 45 ACP but I'd rather be watching a movie with my dual XV15SE subs. That is until I read the latest review on the V3600 that crushes two of my subs. Then I sit and browse the PSA site and load subs into my cart over and over.
I would ask yourself this question. DO you frequently reach the limits of your current dual XV15se's subs? If not then I see no reason to go up to a V3600i...if so then it will be a worthy upgrade. It really does not matter which subs crush each other, all that matters is that you have enough clean headroom for your required listening levels...jmo!
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The Star Wars BDs have a few nice bass moments in them...made me proud of my S1500. Welcome to the fold.
I agree they do. Specifically, the pod race scene in the Phantom Menace has great dynamics.

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Got this bad boy in yesterday, but unfortunately haven't had a chance to unbox it yet. 2 weeks of vacation, and man is there a lot of work to do when you get back, lol. I hope to get in a bit early tomorrow and get it in place, but proably won't be able to get Audyssey run until the weekend. Can't wait!
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Got this bad boy in yesterday, but unfortunately haven't had a chance to unbox it yet. 2 weeks of vacation, and man is there a lot of work to do when you get back, lol. I hope to get in a bit early tomorrow and get it in place, but proably won't be able to get Audyssey run until the weekend. Can't wait!
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I'd say having that beast all locked up on the shipping crate him the unluckiest guy ever

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Lol. I bought that for my wife while on vacation. She never complains about all this HT gear I buy, so she is worth it.
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Long time lurker here...
Just got off a chat w/ Tom V. - super helpful and incredibly nice to boot. Didn't try to steer me up the ladder to the top of my budget, and directed me to what we think is my best option...

So that being said, a new 15v is on the way, should be here this week in time to continue introducing my kids to the Star Wars universe in style.

I'll post some pics and thoughts once I get it hooked up. Now I need to brush up on how to get a sub set-up, measured, dialed-in etc. It's been a long while since I did anything besides run Audyssey and then get distracted by sample material before finishing the process.

Thanks to everyone else in this thread for giving so much informative background info and help to others before me - I think I've only digested a very small portion of it so far.
Then welcome to the PSA friends thread. I’m also kind of new here but it feels like if I have been here for ver. I just got the same sub that you and I can tell you that you are about to experience what a sub is all about. Keep us inform of your progress and there is people here, as you already know, that really know about what they are talking and willing to help in good faith. Congratulations on your purchase!!

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I was thinking 45 ACP but I'd rather be watching a movie with my dual XV15SE subs. That is until I read the latest review on the V3600 that crushes two of my subs. Then I sit and browse the PSA site and load subs into my cart over and over.
Sounds like you've found a new hobby.

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just do it climber....you know you want to. and if it helps, i went from dual xv15se's to a single v3600 and i don't regret it for a second. did someone say second? a second v3600? i shoudn't.....but how awesome woud THAT sound? nah, i should.....i mean shouldn't....baaaahhhhhhhh!

just get yourself a v3600 climber!
I agree... Climber you should get the V3600 and Dig you should get a second V3600.

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I would ask yourself this question. DO you frequently reach the limits of your current dual XV15se's subs? If not then I see no reason to go up to a V3600i...if so then it will be a worthy upgrade. It really does not matter which subs crush each other, all that matters is that you have enough clean headroom for your required listening levels...jmo!
What? …this type of sensible level headed thinking makes me uncomfortable. I don't know how to process it.
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The Star Wars BDs have a few nice bass moments in them...made me proud of my S1500. Welcome to the fold.
Good to know. We just saw The Force Awakens last Friday night and my girlfriend's 12 year old daughter is now hooked and has never seen any of the Star Wars movies.

BTW, we went to an RPX (like IMAX) theatre with over the top sound, huge screen and comfortable, powered recliner seats with some sort of all over butt kicker type device in them andall I could think of was -I need more subs at home
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Sounds like you've found a new hobby.



I agree... Climber you should get the V3600 and Dig you should get a second V3600.



What? …this type of sensible level headed thinking makes me uncomfortable. I don't know how to process it.
Haha Hop is just passing out V3600. Tom can now retire.
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I agree... Climber you should get the V3600 and Dig you should get a second V3600.



What? …this type of sensible level headed thinking makes me uncomfortable. I don't know how to process it.
wait a minute! i was using that tactic on climber, you aren't allowed to use it on me!

and i too am very confused by that sensible statement.
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Haha Hop is just passing out V3600.
Yeah…. I tend to do that.

But it's just because they are so much fun I think everyone should have a V3600 or two laying around their house.

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I think everyone should have a V3600 or two laying around their house.
I would love to have two of them here, I just have 2 small problems...Space and available power for them
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Good to know. We just saw The Force Awakens last Friday night and my girlfriend's 12 year old daughter is now hooked and has never seen any of the Star Wars movies.

BTW, we went to an RPX (like IMAX) theatre with over the top sound, huge screen and comfortable, powered recliner seats with some sort of all over butt kicker type device in them andall I could think of was -I need more subs at home
I took my oldest son (4 years old) to see The Force Awakens, and boy did he love it. We watched all of them before we went, and there are some great bass moments! I'm thinking of taking him back to see it again and this time bringing my middle son (3 years old). I know he wants to see it too, but I'm scared he won't make it all the way through.

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Yeah…. I tend to do that.

But it's just because they are so much fun I think everyone should have a V3600 or two laying around their house.
I know exactly what you mean. My V36-hunnies are absolutely explosive. I've invited a lot of my friends over to watch movies and listen to some music. I couldn't believe just how much some of them were bragging about my subwoofers during the holiday parties.

But sadly I'm done. I really want four... but I'm out of room haha
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Speaking of upgraditis, I'm perpetually looking at more or bigger subs. The V3600i is one beast I've been eyeballing. Last night, however, I re-watched Interstellar and was once again blown away by the response from my dual XV15SE subs. The launch scenes, worm hole, and black hole scenes were simply earth shaking.
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I know exactly what you mean. My V36-hunnies are absolutely explosive. I've invited a lot of my friends over to watch movies and listen to some music. I couldn't believe just how much some of them were bragging about my subwoofers during the holiday parties.

But sadly I'm done. I really want four... but I'm out of room haha
You could always stack 'em.
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Trying to learn here, Ive been reading through this "short" forum. I was wondering if some would comment on a youtube video I watched. The gentleman said the V1500 would not work for his room since the sound waves developed too far past his room.

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This was the first thought that came to my mind... sadly it was vetoed. It's tough because I can't necessarily complain about the output of a single V3600i... much less two. I think four would literally blow out my front door
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Trying to learn here, Ive been reading through this "short" forum. I was wondering if some would comment on a youtube video I watched. The gentleman said the V1500 would not work for his room since the sound waves developed too far past his room.
This is a good question. I didn't really understand what Zeos meant in this video either. I had a V1500 and it worked very well. Although my room was a bit larger than the one he tried in. Good question! I'm curious too.

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I have absolutely no idea what he meant by that, but you could put a V1500 in a closet and I'm sure it would blow your head off.
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Trying to learn here, Ive been reading through this "short" forum. I was wondering if some would comment on a youtube video I watched. The gentleman said the V1500 would not work for his room since the sound waves developed too far past his room.
In my limited experience with ported subwoofers, I've found them a little more sensitive to placement than sealed ones. My interpretation from his phrasing is that he maybe found a good/best spot for the sealed in that corner he liked, but the ported should have been placed elsewhere or different direction. I think he was talking about hot spots developing in the corners of his room which is likely the better placement for that room design. Have you ever been to a party and walk down a hallway at a friend's house and notice there's considerably more bass in a certain spot? It's boomy/undefined bass, but heavy nonetheless? That's my assumption of what he meant.

Oh, and I think he's an inconsiderate turd for playing them that loud in an apartment.

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Trying to learn here, Ive been reading through this "short" forum. I was wondering if some would comment on a youtube video I watched. The gentleman said the V1500 would not work for his room since the sound waves developed too far past his room.
Yeah I remember seeing that and thinking: "What is he talking about?" I wished he had gone into further detail because I would love to hear that explained. But whatever the explanation is I'm pretty sure I disagree (unless there's some new science out there regarding sound waves that I haven't heard about).

Having said that I enjoyed the rest of the video.

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In my limited experience with ported subwoofers, I've found them a little more sensitive to placement than sealed ones. My interpretation from his phrasing is that he maybe found a good/best spot for the sealed in that corner he liked, but the ported should have been placed elsewhere or different direction. I think he was talking about hot spots developing in the corners of his room which is likely the better placement for that room design. Have you ever been to a party and walk down a hallway at a friend's house and notice there's considerably more bass in a certain spot? It's boomy/undefined bass, but heavy nonetheless? That's my assumption of what he meant.

Oh, and I think he's an inconsiderate turd for playing them that loud in an apartment.

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That's as good a guess as any. But still… the length of sound wave from a sealed sub at a certain frequency is the same as a ported sub at that same frequency. Will there be differences in SPL in different rooms due to port tune and cabin gain? Yes. But (and correct me if I'm wrong) that isn't the sound waves failing to develop within the boundary of a room.

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