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@Sekosche I was going to post about the Penn-Elcoms but you already found them.

PSA+Crowsons+Nearfield MBMs = Home Theater Nirvana!
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@Sekosche I was going to post about the Penn-Elcoms but you already found them.

PSA+Crowsons+Nearfield MBMs = Home Theater Nirvana!
Thanks Marc, not bad for being allowed this much gear in a shared living space. 😃 The fiance accepted my AV illness a long time ago, but I do my best to improve WAF where I can by keeping gear hidden (you may have seen my V1800 sub box covers). She's definitely a keeper; one of many reasons I'm marrying her next month. I'll post some pics of the Crowson setup once it's all done and give my thoughts...and now the waiting game! Aaah

Edit: I have a Crowson invoice and UPS tracking info in my email, so it might have shipped or at least the label was created anyway. Sweet
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The inuke 6000DSP came a couple days ago, which according to bench tests, is perfect to run a pair of Crowson with ample headroom (rated @ 1,100 watts x2 channels into an 8ohm load) for maximum output. The rest of the needed cables and the actuators should be here by Friday at the latest to get things finished this weekend.

I'm bolting a sheet of plywood underneath the couch and replacing the original feet with 10 rubber cabinet feet and starting with the two actuators in the rear corners. This should also act as a mini riser, so I'm curious how much this change alone will make in tactile response on very hard floors in a large room.

My signal chain is receiver sub out > miniDSP HD > B1200 XLR pass through > 6000DSP > Crowson. Using the same signal that's fed to the nearfield MBMs should allow me to time align the Crowson with precision...I only have one output left on the miniDSP to work with.

Any starting tips for matching and/or blending the intensity of the Crowson to the rest of the system?

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These showed up yesterday! Thanks Mr. Crowson for shipping them out same day. I ordered very late in the afternoon last Friday; and he told me they'd likely ship Monday, so it was nice surprise. The last of the materials should be in to begin installation tomorrow.

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I am having an issue, however, blowing fuses. I just blew the second fuse on the Crowson amp. Meanwhile, does anyone know what spec fuse I need with this amp?
Based on your comments, I thought I should get some spare fuses just in case. I pulled mine out and they are labeled 5S8A 250V. I did a Google search and couldn't find a match for this. What was the type of fuse that you purchased?

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Wow!

After finishing the bare minimum installation necessary for a War of the Worlds demo (no calibration at all), I split the feed from my rear subs, and then turned off the MBMs to see what these actuators are made of. Holy freaking cow! So that's what powerful waves of sub 20Hz bass feels like... I have a long weekend of recalibrating my entire system.



These Crowson actuators are amazing!

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Based on your comments, I thought I should get some spare fuses just in case. I pulled mine out and they are labeled 5S8A 250V. I did a Google search and couldn't find a match for this. What was the type of fuse that you purchased?


Hi: it's a T8AL slow blow fuse, for 115v. It's also listed on the amp itself, near where the fuses are. I found them on Amazon, they weren't at Radio Shack or anywhere else near me.


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Wow!

After finishing the bare minimum installation necessary for a War of the Worlds demo (no calibration at all), I split the feed from my rear subs, and then turned off the MBMs to see what these actuators are made of. Holy freaking cow! So that's what powerful waves of sub 20Hz bass feels like... I have a long weekend of recalibrating my entire system.



These Crowson actuators are amazing!
Nice! It is so fun getting a new toy and it is as good or better than you imagined it would be
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I'm now watching 13 Hours again. I've seen the bass graph, and this was my favorite movie of the year. Even with a reference capable system into the teens, I had no idea just how much tactile bass I was missing. Even after countless viewings, it really is a whole new experience.

I thought the edition of a couple nearfield MBMs was a great upgrade, but a pair of these actuators are so much better. They produce more accurate and powerful bass than I thought possible from such a small unit. I can turn off my MBMs and Crowson separately from my chair, and I'm stupified how hollow 13 Hours feels with the actuators off.

I now understand why so many people have said they'd rather part with other aspects of their theater systems than the Crowsons. I honestly don't need two more actuators for the front of the loveseat (but I am curious). With the 500 watt limiter engaged on the 6000DSP, two of these babies can produce way more bass feedback than is necessary.

This is simply an outstanding product!

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Hi: it's a T8AL slow blow fuse, for 115v. It's also listed on the amp itself, near where the fuses are. I found them on Amazon, they weren't at Radio Shack or anywhere else near me.
Thanks - I didn't see that listed on the amp itself.

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Lol, ok I'll quit raving about Crowson now. These things are the knees of the bees (last one). I stayed up until sunrise watching various movies, got a little sleep and now I'm about to watch The Accountant. 😃

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It's been almost a week since installing the Crowson twins, and I have demoed more bass movie material and music than with any other theater upgrade in this short a span. I thought I found my preferred intensity level, and kept the same settings through dozens of movie clips and two or three full length films. That is, until I nearly got sick watching Gravity at -5MV; I am not joking.

Maybe it was a combination of the absurdly tactile bass coupled with the constant motion on screen, but I felt like I was in a space station being ripped apart and hurled toward the earth. I've seen Gravity probably a half dozen times, and I've never experienced anything like this; and I've certainly never felt nauseous in a movie until now. This is not to say it wasn't immensely fun, but I definitely found there is a limit. 😃

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Wow!

After finishing the bare minimum installation necessary for a War of the Worlds demo (no calibration at all), I split the feed from my rear subs, and then turned off the MBMs to see what these actuators are made of. Holy freaking cow! So that's what powerful waves of sub 20Hz bass feels like... I have a long weekend of recalibrating my entire system.



These Crowson actuators are amazing!
So today for the very first time I experienced Dolby Vision cinema. I was very skeptical about the actuators at first but as soon as I experienced them, I loved it. I was thinking that they would drive them over the top but I was pleasantly surprised how nicely they were dialed in. Just enough to be noticed and not much to take everything else away. They kept the realm of movie. I was going to post the question of what would be the best way to install actuator to get the similar feeling and then came across your post with pics. Looks like a solid idea. Wondering why you didn't install them in the center of seat instead?
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So today for the very first time I experienced Dolby Vision cinema. I was very skeptical about the actuators at first but as soon as I experienced them, I loved it. I was thinking that they would drive them over the top but I was pleasantly surprised how nicely they were dialed in. Just enough to be noticed and not much to take everything else away. They kept the realm of movie. I was going to post the question of what would be the best way to install actuator to get the similar feeling and then came across your post with pics. Looks like a solid idea. Wondering why you didn't install them in the center of seat instead?
I wish i had a dolby cinema within a few hours of me just to check it out, but the closest decent theatre we have is an Imax in Tulsa (~1.5 hours away). It sounds like they really dial these theatres in for maximum enjoyment.

One reason I placed the transducers where they are was a recommendation from Randolph Crowson in an email conversation we had. And also that installing them on the armrest is generally the preferred area, even though I have a loveseat and not single seat theater chairs.

It turns out I likely over did the rubber feet number needed on the bottom, as less is generally better for decoupling the couch from the floor. Mr. Crowson even looked at my pics I sent him and gave me some feedback on the install, but I haven't moved the sorbothane isolators from the front right corners and closer to the actuators yet, which was his recommendation, and also he said to try to remove a few feet and see how it feels. Honestly, I'm afraid to mess with it, because I have it dialed in to where I think it feels incredible, so I'm not sure how much better it could get.

The install of the 0.7" plywood board took longer than I anticipated (but was still simple to build), due to not reusing the existing couch feet holes to anchor the new isolator feet to the couch.

I used these rubber feet from parts express: http://www.parts-express.com/penn-el...x-1-h--260-772

And I also added these furniture pads to all 10 of the cheap parts express feet, but not to the two Crowson sorbothane rubber feet (height difference) and this worked out to level them almost perfectly:
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Hello everyone. Here to see what the fuzz is about on these crowson's that @Sekosche and @healthnut recommended in another thread so here I am! Obviously we know why I'm here....to FEEL the bass. Thats right! Here is some background of my system and what I'm looking to achieve.

I have dual svs pb13 ultras that are powerful enough and I love it.....my only complaint is I'm on concrete slab and hardwood floor in a open floor plan living room. Just looking to add more positive experience without buying more subs which probably won't even give me more tactical response as these crowsons possibly can. I don't have luxury to build riser/platform to achieve tactical response since its a living room and wife said no. LOL We all know how that goes. So I was recommended Crowsons.

About installing them....how do I know how many I need to purchase? I realized that my couch feet is supposed to rest on it, correct? The couch I have is nothing like I see on other AVSers since its just a leather sectiona sofa with legs at the ends. See picture below to get idea. Couch is 2 pieces with 4 legs each piece. Wife and I only sit on the horizontal piece under the projector, not on the long piece/chase side. The piece that connects together has legs within 2 inches from each other so that could be option as well. Do I simply just put crowson under the 2 rear feet and just take the round isolators and put it under the legs without removing the legs? Problem is legs don't screw on/off, they come out as one big piece and if I took legs off they sit directly on the floor. See pic below for better explanation.

About setting them up. My Rotel prepro has dual LFE output which I'm running one RCA sub cable each from prepro to each sub for same LFE signal. If I were to integrate the crowsons I'm assuming I need to get amp for crowsons that run from one of my LFE outs from prepro to the crowson amp itself and just use other LFE on prepro to on sub and then daisy chain to another sub?
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You need two transducers, one for each rear leg and two motion isolators, one for each front leg.

A couple of things: The motion isolators and transducers are approximately 1 inch tall which means that section of your furniture will be that much higher than the other section. You could remedy that by installing a spacer on the section that does not have the Crowson's. The spacer would be installed between the leg bracket (top) and the seat frame. I believe that the aluminum legs shown in your photo are fastened to the frame with screws so it would be an easy fix for the height issue.

The motion isolators are larger in diameter than your furniture legs so they will be quite noticeable in your setup, will that bother you or your wife?

Because of the space that you have between the floor and your furniture frame seat bottom, the wiring to the transducers should be configured with a harness which is secured underneath the seat so they are not lying on the floor which would not be very neat looking. It appears from the photo that your living is neat and squared away so I don't think you or your wife would want to see the wires on the floor.

As far as amps, I am using the Crowson amp and not familiar with other options, but many members in this thread are using various amp setups and should be able to provide you help in that direction. But yes, the common and recommended connection is one of the LFE outs on your Rotel. However, some users are connecting to their Oppo's, that's laid out in this thread somewhere.

I would strongly suggest that you email those photos to Crownson, they are extremely friendly and helpful and would certainly guide you through everything you need and installation suggestions as well.
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You need two transducers, one for each rear leg and two motion isolators, one for each front leg.

A couple of things: The motion isolators and transducers are approximately 1 inch tall which means that section of your furniture will be that much higher than the other section. You could remedy that by installing a spacer on the section that does not have the Crowson's. The spacer would be installed between the leg bracket (top) and the seat frame. I believe that the aluminum legs shown in your photo are fastened to the frame with screws so it would be an easy fix for the height issue.

The motion isolators are larger in diameter than your furniture legs so they will be quite noticeable in your setup, will that bother you or your wife?

Because of the space that you have between the floor and your furniture frame seat bottom, the wiring to the transducers should be configured with a harness which is secured underneath the seat so they are not lying on the floor which would not be very neat looking. It appears from the photo that your living is neat and squared away so I don't think you or your wife would want to see the wires on the floor.

As far as amps, I am using the Crowson amp and not familiar with other options, but many members in this thread are using various amp setups and should be able to provide you help in that direction. But yes, the common and recommended connection is one of the LFE outs on your Rotel. However, some users are connecting to their Oppo's, that's laid out in this thread somewhere.

I would strongly suggest that you email those photos to Crownson, they are extremely friendly and helpful and would certainly guide you through everything you need and installation suggestions as well.

Thanks for the feedback!

2 Transducers, one for each rear leg.....this is where I'm lost. I have total of 9 legs....the 2 seater has 4 legs, the chase part has 4 legs and 1 middle leg making it 5 total on that alone. All legs are spaced out far apart except for middle rear where 2 pieces meet and are about 2 inches apart so I could use transducer on that as well for more coverage on whole couch? For example the top back right corner and the top back middle (2 legs close together).

Here is what it looks like if you're looking at the couch from bird eye's view. 0 = legs

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I looked under the legs and its held by 2 bolts/screws so it would not be possible to have something between them. Probably best to have bottom of legs to rest on the motion isolators if they fit. The bottom of the legs that touch the floor are about 1 inch at the largest diameter. I don't think the wife would be bothered having something larger at the feet at the floor to elevate it properly. As long as the feet is secured and not slide off the isolators, etc. Told you I had a weird couch compared to other AVSers. LOL But its very comfy and this couch was before I turned this room into a semi theater room.

By the way I don't own oppo player and I use my rotel prepro as bass managemet, not in the bluray player.

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Yes, I am referring just to the two seater where you stated that is where you and your wife sit. That section would be set up with the Crowson's. No need to set up the other section so just leave it alone.

With the two seater section (where you sit) you have four legs, two in the front and two in the back. There would be a transducer under each of the two rear legs and a motion isolator under each of the two front legs. So you need two transducers and two motion isolators and an amplifier.

Once this section is setup, it will be approximately one inch higher than the chaise section. That may or may not bother you. If it does than you will need to raise this section so that it is even with the section that now has the Crowson's. That is why I mentioned a spacer for this section and thinking aesthetically, I suggested putting a spacer between the leg support and the furniture frame. But, you certainly could just put something under the leg itself if it does not bother you.

The motion isolators need to be attached to the bottom of the legs with a screw or bolt, you would not want to just rest the furniture leg on them. Also, the motion isolators are approximately 2 1/2" in diameter.

The transducers are placed on the floor under the rear legs and the furniture leg rest on the transducer, no attachment involved with the transducers. There is a hole in the center of the transducer, but it is not an installation hole, it is a vent.

You certainly could set up the chaise section with Crowson's as well, but if you do not sit there it would not be worth the extra cost and amplifier power to run that section. Also, your furniture does not look like it has much weight to it, so having a section set up with transducers, that no one is sitting in, would probably not be a good idea.

Contact Crowson today, send them those photos and let us know what they recommend.
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Yes, I am referring just to the two seater where you stated that is where you and your wife sit. That section would be set up with the Crowson's. No need to set up the other section so just leave it alone.

With the two seater section (where you sit) you have four legs, two in the front and two in the back. There would be a transducer under each of the two rear legs and a motion isolator under each of the two front legs. So you need two transducers and two motion isolators and an amplifier.

Once this section is setup, it will be approximately one inch higher than the chaise section. That may or may not bother you. If it does than you will need to raise this section so that it is even with the section that now has the Crowson's. That is why I mentioned a spacer for this section and thinking aesthetically, I suggested putting a spacer between the leg support and the furniture frame. But, you certainly could just put something under the leg itself if it does not bother you.

The motion isolators need to be attached to the bottom of the legs with a screw or bolt, you would not want to just rest the furniture leg on them. Also, the motion isolators are approximately 2 1/2" in diameter.

The transducers are placed on the floor under the rear legs and the furniture leg rest on the transducer, no attachment involved with the transducers. There is a hole in the center of the transducer, but it is not an installation hole, it is a vent.

You certainly could set up the chaise section with Crowson's as well, but if you do not sit there it would not be worth the extra cost and amplifier power to run that section. Also, your furniture does not look like it has much weight to it, so having a section set up with transducers, that no one is sitting in, would probably not be a good idea.

Contact Crowson today, send them those photos and let us know what they recommend.
Thank you, now that makes sense. I know the bottom of my feet has small white plastic that rest on the floor....I will find out later today if they screw on/off. Yes, the furniture isn't heavy and I'm sure even with the transducers not on the chase itself it will still get vibration if we have a guest since the 2 seater and chase are bound together by metal snap clips that are attached to the frames on the ends so the vibration will probably transfer. I can always add more if needed. Looks like the only possible issue is the isolators at the feet part I need to figure out exactly. If isolators doesn't fit, I'm sure there are furniture pads that are 1 inch I can use instead that sticks with adhensive to the feet....may not be as good as isolators but at least won't slide off. Will send pics to email on crowsons website soon.

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Thank you, now that makes sense. I know the bottom of my feet has small white plastic that rest on the floor....I will find out later today if they screw on/off. Yes, the furniture isn't heavy and I'm sure even with the transducers not on the chase itself it will still get vibration if we have a guest since the 2 seater and chase are bound together by metal snap clips that are attached to the frames on the ends so the vibration will probably transfer. I can always add more if needed. Looks like the only possible issue is the isolators at the feet part I need to figure out exactly. If isolators doesn't fit, I'm sure there are furniture pads that are 1 inch I can use instead that sticks with adhensive to the feet....may not be as good as isolators but at least won't slide off. Will send pics to email on crowsons website soon.
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Any luck in the addition of more tactile bass? You add your axiom sub nearfield or figure out how to add isolators and some crowson to your couch with decent WAF?
I didn't have extra cable to get all 3 subs working so I hooked up the axiom nearfield with music using just my mains and crossed over at 80hz. Man...I feel like I'm a club and can feel the body thumping....can't even localize it.

My Y adapter and extra cable came in today from amazon so I will play with it. I'm hoping this all works out nicely. My rotel rsp1068 pre pro has 2 subouts but treated as one signal. Meaning delay affects both the same. And I do have phase switch between 0 and 180 as well. Remember I don't have minidsp or room correction so everything is pretty much manually using either test tones from prepro, avia disk, and disney wow disk. Here is summary how I'm gonna try to integrate the nearfield sub.

Currently all 5 speakers are set as 80db, Each svs sub is set as 85 db resulting in total of 88db on subs. I am going to calibrate nearfield while svs subs are off and maybe use 80db from MLP. So that will probably give me total of 90db from all 3 subs I'm assuming?

As far as delay....not sure where to set it but my LCR and SVS subs are 12 feet from my MLP and nearfield is 1 foot away and not really understand much how it works. I did play with different delays and my phase switch that switches to ony 0 and 180 and couldn't hear a diff....but that is without my SPL meter. Probably need to keep phase where spl is loudest during sub test tone but since it fires opposite svs subs I'm assuming phase 180 to avoid cancellation. So just doing best I can manually and doing everything within the rotel prepro for all bass management.

Do you guys have subs hotter than other speakers all all calibration? Like 10 db higher than all speakers? I understand all should be same as mains but being on concrete slab and huge open floor plan i feel I need to have it louder just to get more pressuration/feel of the subs.

Can't wait to calibrate it later during my free time between work. Will keep you guys posted.

Oh yeah, by the way I checked out the MBM Behringer....so cheap! But I wanna see if I can get this sub integrated at least so it doesn't collect dust......but having the axiom full range sub nearfield is kinda like having 3 normal subs in the room so it should give me more bass and smoother overall. Haven't really played with the feet, but I did see some square shape 1 inch flat rubber pads similar that may work, but again it may not. Does it have to be "isolation pad" or anything with rubber is isolation itself?

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Then I'm hoping the Crowsons are the next step!

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Ok, did some calibration today with all 3 subs. I think I have it dialed in as far as doing it manually with spl meter.

I popped in Disney Wow disk and calibrated from there. Got my master volume to where I listen normally for most blurays and its 78db from spl meter. I'm now running 5.3 setup so my 5 speakers are as follows.
Left - 78db
Center - 78db
Right - 78db
Right Surround - 75db
Left Surround - 75db

Now for the subs....since I have dual sub outs on my prepro that is basically same mono signal I have installed Y cable on Sub 1 output to split signal to each SVS pb13 ultras with 20 foot cable each. For Sub 2 output I have 40 foot cable going to the Axiom ep500.

Calibrated each sub itself to 80db on spl meter one at a time and got them all at 80db. With just dual svs pb13s alone I got reading of 85db. I then turned on Axiom sub and was still reading 85db and forgot I had it on phase 0....when I switched to 180 I got total reading of 88db on all 3 subs combined.

So right now my subs are running 10db higher than all speakers, that sound normal? Basically everything sounds the same as my dual pb13s except I get slightly more chest kick but alot more vibration at the floor and couch that was missing. So basically I have smoother bass response in all room and I don't recognize any nulls. So I'm assuming this is how its supposed to be and I did integrate the nearfield full range sub properly? Subs are crossed over at 80hz and LFE itself is 120hz on my rotel. Didn't mess with delays since i'm not sure what I'm doing when I do the delays so left it alone.

So far I'm getting more bass feel and more kick and like it. Will try Crowsons's next to see what its all about.

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I had posted this as a reply in the MBM thread but figure I will post it here also in case it might be of use to someone considering using Crowsons for music or a higher crossover than what I see suggested on here normally.

If you set Crowsons up using a higher crossover you can get a really nice tactile feel all the way up into the 200hz + range that a lot of instruments play that will give you that tactile feel. For music especially you are leaving a lot of potential on the table crossing it over so low like 40hz that I see a lot of guys do. Even the Crowson manual suggest starting with the crossover up higher to start out(300hz). Not saying, guys, can't use them down low only(below 40hz) just letting others know if they are debating buying them that they are effective and add a lot up much higher also.

Go this website and it has a bunch of different drums sounds and frequencies and I can feel them through my Crowson. You need to scroll about halfway down the page to see the samples you can play. https://www.musical-u.com/learn/perc...-part-1-drums/ I have my system hooked to an HTPC so I can choose different DSP/EQ curves on the fly for my subs and for the Crowson. If I crossed over at 40hz I wouldn't feel any of those drums and to me, that is a waste and I like feeling them. I am fortunate to have a sub that I can feel most of them without the Crowson but it is nice to be able to feel them when using lower listening levels also.

The one drawback of having them crossed over high like 250hz for music is for movies you might get parts of deeper voices coming from them at times. But otherwise, to me, it adds a lot having them run higher than just 40hz, door slams and different special sound effects up higher than 40hz get missed if they are crossed so low. Just my opinion of course Experiment for yourself and decide.
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When doors slam my couch doesn't shake. Nor does my uncle, who sounds like James Earl Jones, shake my chair. He is a pastor so I do get tactile feedback when he speaks through the PA system or when the instruments you describe play.

I prefer the sensations above 50Hz via mains & MBMs.
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OK, you guys have talked me into it. I'm going to order up at least one Crowson TT and see what this is all about. I have a couple of questions first though;

Since I have an unused MiniDSP that is just collecting dust to set crossovers, levels and EQ, do I really need the Inuke 3000DSP? Could I get away with a cheaper amp? I have no idea here, that is why I am asking.

I will only be installing the TT on my recliner, will one do it for me do you think? It is a very large recliner; The Beast.

I can't dedicate a sub out to just the TT, will I be OK splitting the sub signal from one of my (Audyssey EQed) rear subs to feed the amp for the TT?
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OK, you guys have talked me into it. I'm going to order up at least one Crowson TT and see what this is all about. I have a couple of questions first though;

Since I have an unused MiniDSP that is just collecting dust to set crossovers, levels and EQ, do I really need the Inuke 3000DSP? Could I get away with a cheaper amp? I have no idea here, that is why I am asking.

I will only be installing the TT on my recliner, will one do it for me do you think? It is a very large recliner; The Beast.

I can't dedicate a sub out to just the TT, will I be OK splitting the sub signal from one of my (Audyssey EQed) rear subs to feed the amp for the TT?

Knowing you, your better order 4, one for each corner of your chair You could use the MiniDSP. I guess I like the convenience of the Inuke having it all in one so fewer connections.

I think you will really like it since I saw you say you usually use your system later at night at lower volume levels.

I know some guys want a separate LFE line for their Crowson but I having it connected to my normal LFE that has Audyssey since I use dynamic EQ and it applies the same dynamic EQ to the Crowson with the volume level.

$236 shipped for the Inuke 3000DSP PROMO CODE: VIP215

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Knowing you, your better order 4, one for each corner of your chair You could use the MiniDSP. I guess I like the convenience of the Inuke having it all in one so fewer connections.

I think you will really like it since I saw you say you usually use your system later at night at lower volume levels.

$236 shipped for the Inuke 3000DSP

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Thanks bscool!

Yeah, who knows, I could end up with more than one TT (you know me too well! ). Start out small I say, then add as needed.

"Lower volume levels" for me is around -15 to -10MV...so it's still plenty loud....good thing my wife could sleep through a nuclear apocalypse.

Your 3000DSP link says $279.99, am I missing something??
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Ahhh...just now saw your edit with the promo code, thanks!
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