Originally Posted by Docethic
Originally Posted by Player3
Thanks man! I appreciate that.
And yes, I believe I have indeed found the right subs. I think I'll be quite content for many more years to come.
What about you, which subs are you using now? Still thinking of upgrading?
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I wish I could have the firepower you have! I thought long and hard about trying the new Echo18 1400 but in my current room it would be too tight. I still have the Gamma18 in my little cave with the CX12s...I finally got it to where everything sounds great, just in time to upgrade to the G21, which hopefully will be here in a couple weeks.
One thing that really helps my tactile feeling was losing my sectional couch. I now just have a futon in there since it's only me down there, and man I get a back massage all over the place. With the huge couch I did here and there, but now with only one couch frame I really feel it that much more.
Dynamics are awesome and the explosions sound like they are coming from every specific spot in the room. The bass ext is great being a tiny room but it doesn't melt my face like I'm sure yours does with the majority of tones when called upon. I feel the CX12s can run away from the 18 near reference. Initially I was going to go with an Echo 18 so I could could cruch myself with 30 hz but decided long term that one G21 now and a second later if I end up in a bigger theater space would be a good way to go.
Still can't believe how you went from a PB2000 to a PS215 then right to dual XLs. I'm pretty sure Jeremy still regards those as the best sounding of all his subs. Pound for pound I don't think those beasts can be beat. How are you liking your speakers? Are they able to keep up??
How large is your room exactly again? I imagine you'll be quite shocked with a G21 in a small space!
And dual G21's will be great if you go to a larger room, because I've found duals have really dramatically improved smoothness and eveness across a broader listening area. They don't just make that stuff up about duals, in my case I've found it to be very evident.
I'm still not blown away with my system sound wise though.. I think I've still got some serious work to do when it comes to my room. I'd say it sounds good, much better than any movie theater I've been to, including the TCL Chinese theater and El Capitan with Dolby Atmos, in power, intelligibility, and detail. But it's not excellent yet.. I can tell this when I compare to my headphones. (I've got an Audeze LCD-X headphone powered by a Chord Mojo that sounds phenomenal.)
I think my main issue with bass is not enough bass traps, so certain bass notes don't decay/dissipate as quickly as I'd like. However, that's not the subs fault obviously, and they do what they are supposed to do, create powerful, clean bass!
And the speakers are fantastic, I can truly see the potential, I think when I get some more panels in to deal with the first reflections I'll be on cloud 9. They don't seem to struggle to hang with the subs.. They get plenty loud for me. I generally play with the subs hot a number of db's and I don't listen over 85db (A-weighted) except for occasional peaks in movies. I don't bother with reference level bass, I just set it where it sounds good to me to where it's not overly dramatic but yet it adds the power and immersion that you want!
I really haven't been able to push the subs, for fear of my house.. I listen to them loudly, but honestly I don't ever hear distortion from them, and I think I'd be dead if I ever played them loudly enough to create any significant distortion. But honestly, these ribbon tweeters are where it's at, and I know how good these speakers measure, it would be hard for me to give them up. I honestly haven't even looked at speakers since they arrived at my house. I feel the same way about them as I do my subs.. Where can you go from here?
So I know I have the equipment I need, Ascend Acoustic Towers/Horizon with RAAL, dual Echo 18 XL's, Emotiva XPR-5, and Emotiva XMC-1 with Dirac.. Just need to work on more room treatments now. I reckon I should've done that first, but oh well. You live and you learn. =P