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So I bought b&w 684's and htm62 center.. i have some ****ty samsung surrounds witch will work for now.. i need a sub.. my room is tiny.. 10' x 10' however in a few months this set up will be in a bigger living room of unknown size.. so my question is what sub will work for a small room and med to big room.. i have a pioneer vsx-70 receiver and currently a pioneer SW-8MK2.. i def want more boom.. Also if it's better I can run both subs when I get a new one.. don't know a whole lot about 2 subs but I think I can set it up for higher lows and lower lows? Something like that.. anyways don't wanna go over 400-500 dollars.. i don't mind buying used either if it's worth it.. so plz let me know what u guys/gals think.. thx!
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An SVS PB-1000 ($499, shipped) will rock your small room and completely crush your current sub (in terms of both output and extension). It will also work very well in a larger space.

If you try it and don't like it, SVS offers free return shipping within 45 days.
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Thx alot.. i will be sure to check them out smile.gif
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Yep your best bet is SVS PB1000 ( and don't let the 10" driver fool you, that thing is more potent than many 12" subs).

FYI how bass and subs works is like this, it tries to pressurize or fill the entire open area to the sub with bass. So the bigger the room the better the sub you need and the more subs you need. So I suggest getting 1 PB1000 now for your small room and then when you move when you have some cash saved up think about getting a 2nd PB1000, as 2 subs help fill the room more evenly with bass.

Also don't bother tryin to run your old sub with the SVS cuz the old sub won't keep up at all.

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Thx alot for the info much appreciated.. These subs seem to be the real deal.. been researching them.. anyone know if there's a better sub I can find used for the same price? I read that 2 of em is better then a 1k sub. But what about used ones?
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IMO, you won't find a better overall sub than the PB-1000 for $500.

Two of them would be very solid in a much larger room than the one you currently have.

As for used, if you're patient you can come across good deals on used-goods sites such as audiogon.com, usaudiomart.com and craigslist.

A couple of things to keep in mind are:
- The possibility that the sub has been "abused" (driven too hard or otherwise over-stressed) by the owner/vendor. This is something that may not reveal itself when you demo the sub, but which may impact the life of the sub.
- The (likely) lack of warranty.
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Go for the SVS look up their customer bill of rights and the free shipping both ways if you don't like the sub. They really are a second to none company when it comes to their customer service.

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I will def check them out before I buy my sub.. but I would like to go hear some others before I try those.. i also don't plan on buying it for a few weeks so I got time to look.. thx for all the info.. anyone have any other recommendations?
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anyone have any other recommendations?

If $500 is your max budget then you can't do better than a PB1000. If you can up the budget you have more options.

You could get a pair of cheap subs like some Bic or Polk for less than $500, but then you have a pair of subs that pretty much are one note wonders that make boom noises when watching movies or music. You'd have more output above 30hz than a single PB1000 but less output below.

Get one PB1000 now and when you move to a larger space get another or use SVS' upgrade policy to get a bigger sub or a pair of bigger subs.

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I was unaware they have a upgrade policy.. pretty awesome.. When u say over 50 how much over we talking.. if it's worth it I can always save up more and wait longer
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Another vote for the PB-1000 smile.gif

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Nothing wrong with buying used, especially if the subs still have 90% of the warranty left. Imo contact this guy and work out a deal on his lightly used PB-1000's.
https://www.avsforum.com/t/1514493/2-svs-pb1000s-purchased-new-10-13
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I was unaware they have a upgrade policy.. pretty awesome.. When u say over 50 how much over we talking.. if it's worth it I can always save up more and wait longer

The next step up in subs would then be: Rythmik LV12R @ $589 shipped, Hsu VTF2-MK4 on sale @ $596 shipped, Outlaw Audio LFM-1 Plus @ $620 shipped, Outlaw Audio LFM-1 EX @ $730 shipped, SVS SB2000 @ $699 shipped, Hsu VTF3-MK4 @ $758 shipped, PSA XS15 @ $749 shipped, PSA XV15 @ $799 shipped, SVS PC12 NSD @ $749 shipped, SVS PB2000 @ $799 shipped, Hsu VTF-15H @ $1,022 shipped.

There is also a new company in the Internet Direct subwoofer world. Reaction Audio and their BPS212 is $400 shipped or dual BPS212 are $700 shipped. They are very new so not many reviews and no one knows for sure the realibility of them, but their prices are great and the owner Jeremy is very nice and truthful about his products.

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Hey thx alot.. now I got some more to research.. i was just on rythmik website and noticed the custom subs.. for the same price as the LV12R I can get a 15" sub and build the enclosure myself.. i might end up doing this.. i am a machinist and have access to cncs so I can build it perfect to the specs they supply.. any suggestions on that? Or are the risks to high and there's a chance the sub won't be built well enough and the LV12R sounds better? Anyways always up for suggestions.. 500 is what I would like to spend but if 100-200 more makes a big difference then it might be worth it. Thx again everyone
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As far as the custom Rythmiks and AIY and DIY subs I'll let ppl with experience in that area chime in..... But about the other subs YES $100 or $200 more than $500 will make a big difference in the sub you can buy, BUT that still doesn't change the fact that most ppl will still say when you move buy a 2nd identical sub.

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I do plan on buying identical subs.. i prefer everything to match as best as possible.. i read up on the diy rythmik kits forum.. everyone seems to love there's but I wonder if anyone has compared a diy to a completed one..
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I do plan on buying identical subs.. i prefer everything to match as best as possible.. i read up on the diy rythmik kits forum.. everyone seems to love there's but I wonder if anyone has compared a diy to a completed one..

Diy will definitely give you more bang for the buck...if you have no issues with building your own then by all means go that route. I would go with that new dayton ultimax 18" with a flat pack and a Behringer Inuke DSP amp. You could build that setup for around 6-700.00 off the top of my head amp included and it will hang or best most subs that cost twice as much. Take note you will have no warranty and it will take some work getting the dsp correct to achieve a good response.
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Diy will definitely give you more bang for the buck...if you have no issues with building your own then by all means go that route. I would go with that new dayton ultimax 18" with a flat pack and a Behringer Inuke DSP amp. You could build that setup for around 6-700.00 off the top of my head amp included and it will hang or best most subs that cost twice as much. Take note you will have no warranty and it will take some work getting the dsp correct to achieve a good response.

Awesome Thx alot.. i will look Into that as well.. much appreciated
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Diy will definitely give you more bang for the buck...if you have no issues with building your own then by all means go that route. I would go with that new dayton ultimax 18" with a flat pack and a Behringer Inuke DSP amp. You could build that setup for around 6-700.00 off the top of my head amp included and it will hang or best most subs that cost twice as much. Take note you will have no warranty and it will take some work getting the dsp correct to achieve a good response.

Not to mention he could add a second flat pack and 18" and run a pair off of the behringer for not much more later on.
That would be a great DIY setup.

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Not to mention he could add a second flat pack and 18" and run a pair off of the behringer for not much more later on.
That would be a great DIY setup.

How hard is it to put to together a flat pack?
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How hard is it to put to together a flat pack?

Flat packs are pre-cut all you need to do is assemble...which requires glue, screws, and c-clamps.
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