For those who have been following along on the Official PSA thread, I've shared that I finally came to a decision (of sorts) about what to do in my 7500 cubic foot room. After wavering back and forth between sealed and ported options, the release of the new ICE-powered line from PSA prompted me to do my own, in-home test between the two options most likely to work well in my room: the ported, single-driver V1500 and the sealed, dual-opposed driver S3000i. Before I go any further, I want to thank Tom V and Jim F for offering their free in-home demo and both-way shipping that made this test possible! I also want to thank Tom for convincing me to do the test; telling me explicitly not to feel guilty about ordering both knowing that I would return one.
That said, whichever of these two products is returned will simply be exchanged for a duplicate of the one I decide to keep. My room is large enough that I am going to want 2 subwoofers and I do plan do place one near-field.
V1500 Unboxing Photos
V1500 Initial Setup and First Impressions: Movies
V1500 First Impressions: Music
S3000i Unboxing and side-by-side with V1500
V1500 post-measurement conclusions (Holy 14hz, Batman!)
S3000i vs V1500 Best location found graph
S3000i in the best location found with Audyssey
Stellar reputation. Stellar customer service. Made in USA Products. Free in-home trial with free both-way shipping. And, with the announcement of the s3000i, I suspected (for the first time in my budget) that there was a sealed option that (when dual was considered) could be powerful enough for my room. Everyone has leaned me towards ported; I have a bias towards sealed. Ultimately, I needed to try both myself.
The first subwoofer, the V1500 is scheduled to arrive about a week before the S3000i and is currently listing as arriving on 3/23. Tom gave me the option and I chose to get the V1500 early so I had time to learn the controls and get it well-dialed in before the S3000i arrived.
About Me, My Room, and My Tastes
I would be absolutely remiss if I didn't admit up front that I am a total amateur when it comes to anything objective that I'll present in this thread
. I do have a UMIK-1 and MiniDSP coming with my order; however, I have absolutely no experience with them. Those hoping for a really great, wonderfully measured shootout are, sadly, going to be disappointed. I will do what I can to take measurements and post graphs; however, I think it's important to understand that, for me, the results of this test are going to be almost entirely subjective: the sub I keep will be the one I like best.
My room is an unfortunately enormous 7500 cubic feet. I say "unfortunately" as almost all of the space is vertical, I have vaulted ceilings all the way up to my roof which mean that, while the room is huge, the usable space for placement is not. Part of the space is a second-level loft space which is completely open along the longest side of the room between the upper-and lower level--so I include it fully in my space measurement. My room is not treated for acoustics--so don't expect a great looking waterfall.
My usage is about 60% music, 40% HT. My primary concern for speaker and subwoofer performance is music
. While I do use HT regularly, my general opinion is that as long as it's exactly what I want for music, it will do well-enough to make me happy with HT. While I recognize this opinion is not prevalent, it's my opinion--so my decision will ultimately come down to what makes me happier with music.
Marantz AV7702 Pre/Pro (hooray Audyssey XT32)
Emotiva XPA-5 Amp
Martin Logan Theos L+R speakers
Ps3 for Blu Ray & CD
If I can get it done in time, I'm trying to get a Martin Logan Motif X center channel delivered quickly so I can work with a 3.1 setup for the testing on film; however, that may not happen in time. Atmos is in my future; but it's a pretty distant future.
Test Material - Music Updated 3/19
I've tried to select music that reflects my broad taste. Some of it is good 'subwoofer test' music while others are just tracks that I know well and love. I am absolutely open to suggestions
and will add anything that falls in line with the types of music I listen to. The list is in no particular order.
Looking at the list, it's currently slanted too heavily towards rock music; I'll be making some adjustments to remove mostly redundant tracks and add more electronic, hip-hop, classical, jazz, and "crooner" music--all things I listen to regularly but don't have tracks off the top of my head or sitting in a playlist to look through. I will also likely change some the songs out in favor of listening to certain albums front-to-back.
Garbage - Queer
Smashing Pumpkins - Bullet with Butterfly Wings
Smashing Pumpkins - Mayonnaise
Telefon Tel Aviv - I Lied
Telefon Tel Aviv - Fahrenheit Fair Enough
Beck - Where It's At
Kansas - Carry on My Wayward Son
Bjork - Hyper-Ballad
The Crystal Method - Trip Like I Do
Bone Thugs-n-Harmony - 1st of the Month
Daft Punk - Human After All
Boston - More Than a Feelin'
BT - Madskillz - Mic Chekka
BT - Every Other Way
Ellie Goulding - Lights (Bassnectar Remix)
Ellie Goulding - Figure 8
Coheed & Cambria - The Camper Velorium I: Faint of Heart
Coheed & Cambria - The Crowing
Delerium - Truly
Depeche Mode - I Feel You
Dr. Dre - Nothin' But a G Thing
Econoline Crush - Home
Madeon - Technicolor
Foo Fighters - Learn To Fly
Foreigner - Double Vision
Gorillaz - Feel Good, Inc
Hybrid - Finished Symphony
Jamiroquai - Canned Heat
K's Choice - To This Day
Marilyn Manson - Personal Jesus (Depeche Mode Cover)
Mars Lasar - Lords of Truth
Mat Zo - 24 Hours
Massive Attack - Dissolved Girl
Michael Jackson - Man in the Mirror
Michael Jackson - Love Never Felt So Good
Nine Inch Nails - Closer
Nine Inch Nails - Terrible Lie
Orbital - Halcyon & On & On
Orbital - Belfast
Orgy - Blue Monday
Outkast - BoB
Outkast - Rosa Parks
Paul Oakenfold - Get 'em Up (ft. Ice Cube)
Solarstone - Seven Cities
The Prodigy - Voodoo People
REM - Losing My Religion
Rabbit in the Moon - Out of Body Experience
Royksopp - Remind Me
Sneaker Pimps - Wasted Early Sunday Morning
Stabbing Westward - Save Yourself
Tiesto - Wasted
Sting - Desert Rose
VAST - Touched
Veruca Salt - Volcano Girls
Yanni - Live at the Acropolis (full album)
Dido - Here with Me
Test Material - Movies
I'm keeping this list relatively short--limiting it to what I have on Blu Ray as well as keeping it short as I intend to watch the full movie rather than selecting individual scenes.
The Dark Knight
Pirates of the Caribbean
Harry Potter (Random selection--probably the last 2 though)
Join me for the ride--I hope to learn a ton about both of these products and, regardless of which I choose to keep, I know the next few weeks are going to be insanely fun!