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post #1621 of 2003 Old 04-29-2017, 03:51 PM
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I love these side tables!

Whatever happened with these ideas? I don't see a 18" side table option on the website. The dual opposed setup sounds especially appealing (to keep the cab inert)!

Has a DO ever been built/sold? Pics? 😁
I've had one or two people ask about an 18" side table and I have it on my list to build a rounded version with feet. I hope to get to that list item sooner than later, probably before Jim's desired rounded Mariana 24. (Sorry Jim)

Regarding dual-opposed, I've also been asked about those a time or few but am personally not a fan of the design. The greatest advantage to the design is the pair of subs opposed each other and therefore cancel out each others vibrations. However, that one advantage, doesn't overcome the negatives as I see them. The biggest negative is size (and weight) and a lack of flexibility in placement. Barring @beastaudio 's previous (new speakers don't allow it) set up of quad dual-opposed subs up front at 45-degrees to side and front walls, the best placement is longways along a wall. But I've seen more people actually facing one woofer into the room and the other directly into a wall and this can cause many issues. Throw in the fact that our subs are very well built, they simply don't have any vibration issues, and there isn't a reason for us to offer a dual-opposed design.

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with music like daft punk and just 1 single 15hp sub in an open floorplan home I get about 110 db at 0mv...some songs louder...so your subs are kickin ass
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Throw in the fact that our subs are very well built, they simply don't have any vibration issues, and there isn't a reason for us to offer a dual-opposed design.
That makes sense. If no vibration issues the 24 and dual 18s would likely be very close.
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I've had one or two people ask about an 18" side table and I have it on my list to build a rounded version with feet. I hope to get to that list item sooner than later, probably before Jim's desired rounded Mariana 24. (Sorry Jim)
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My first attempt at uploading a photo.... I hope this works
Some Deep Sea Sound subwoofer porn


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Those look really good.

I love your Heritage series Klipsch too.
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Those look really good.

I love your Heritage series Klipsch too.
Thanks for the kind words.


The Klipsch Belles are circa 1986 and are in unbelievable condition for their age.


The subwoofers sound as good as they look!


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The system sounded great too. The music we listened to was detailed, articulate, and dynamic, which is what you'd expect from a set of vintage Klipsch and DSS subs. Well at least I'd hope you'd expect that from DSS subs.

Thanks for taking and posting that picture Grady. Hope you're still enjoying the subs and your neighbors leave often enough for you to stretch their legs every once in a while!
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Hey, David! Any chance you'll make an even more uber UBER 24" sub with Nick's new driver?

I mean. How could you not?
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I would be curious if we might see an offering utilizing the SHS-24's as well. I am wondering what kind of differences we could expect from a pair of these versus what I currently have.

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Hey, David! Any chance you'll make an even more uber UBER 24" sub with Nick's new driver?

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I would be curious if we might see an offering utilizing the SHS-24's as well. I am wondering what kind of differences we could expect from a pair of these versus what I currently have.
You guys have new productitis, which is only curable by staying away from AVSForum permanently. But that wouldn't be any fun so please don't leave.

While it is an impressive product, it isn't made for us. That one was designed for car audio competitors, specifically the SPL competitors. It has very strong output at 40-50 Hz but isn't so impressive down low.

So sorry, no I don't have any plans to build a sub with that driver.

And to head off any questions about the BHS-24, if we were comparing it to the original HS-24 driver, then the BHS-24 is an upgrade and worthwhile. But with the HS-24 mkII, the motor is so strong that the BHS-24 doesn't provide any additional motor force. The only real advantage to the BHS-24 is its power handling capabilities but I don't have any issues with the HS-24 driver's capabilities. The BHS-24 driver is more for those DIYers that might want a more bullet proof driver.

But to come clean, when Nick first mentioned the SHS-24, I had 20 questions for him and I didn't calm down until he convinced me it wasn't something I'd want. LOL!

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You guys have new productitis, which is only curable by staying away from AVSForum permanently. But that wouldn't be any fun so please don't leave.

While it is an impressive product, it isn't made for us. That one was designed for car audio competitors, specifically the SPL competitors. It has very strong output at 40-50 Hz but isn't so impressive down low.

So sorry, no I don't have any plans to be a subs with that driver.

And to head off any questions about the BHS-24, if we were comparing it to the original HS-24 driver, then the BHS-24 is an upgrade and worthwhile. But with the HS-24 mkII, the motor is so strong that the BHS-24 doesn't provide any additional motor force. The only real advantage to the BHS-24 is its power handling capabilities but I don't have any issues with the HS-24 driver's capabilities. The BHS-24 driver is more for those DIYers that might want a more bullet proof driver.

But to come clean, when Nick first mentioned the SHS-24, I had 20 questions for him and I didn't calm down until he convinced me it wasn't something I'd want. LOL!
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What is the "durable coating" option on the Mariana 18?
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What is the "durable coating" option on the Mariana 18?
We use a proprieary blend of nano materials in a special polyurea coating that after 24 hours of baking is harder than most truck bed liners on the market.

Or it is a quality product called Duratex.

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I just wanted to quickly post about my experience with David Gage and Deep Sea Sound thus far.

David has been extremely patient in answering questions, making recommendations, and offering ways to customize my subs.

I'm moving into a new house in a couple of weeks and my sub search has been related to picking something that will integrate into my new great room/home theater space and maintain a very high level of WAF.

As part of the move, a talented friend is putting together a custom media cabinet, coffee table, occasional table, corner desk, and dining table - all in a walnut using a special process that darkens/blackens the wood and leaves some brown highlights.

I mention this because David was willing to coordinate with my furniture builder to replicate the process and obtain walnut veneer for the sub cabinets. In the end, the subs. (which will be the table top versions) will perfectly match my other new furniture.

Amazing customer service by David in working this out and he is not killing me in the pocketbook to do it, despite the special requests.

I decided to go with a pair of Mariana 18S as the 24 inch sub-table was going to be a bit too big for the wife. Regardless, I'm coming from a single HSU VTF3-MK2 so I have no doubt this pair will knock my socks off. I will report back once they are delivered around the first week of July and once i have an opportunity to connect up the rest of my setup, but in the meantime wanted to mention the great experience so far working with David. If his subs are half as good as his customer service then I'm sure they will be longstanding fixtures in my house.
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I'm coming from a single HSU VTF3-MK2 so I have no doubt this pair will knock my socks off.
LOLz.....yeah I dare say there will be a fair amount of sock knocking in your future.
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I look forward to hearing your first impressions of the Mariana 18's once you get them. You will soon realize how much content you've been missing from your movies.
As an owner of a pair of David's 18 Marianas my movie watching experiences have been taken to another level. A level I never thought I could achieve in my home at what I feel is a reasonable price point.


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Finally joined this thread! I have been eyeing Mariana 18s as well since I'm leaning towards sealed 18 inch sub. For those of you that have Mariana 18s, post some pics!

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Finally joined this thread! I have been eyeing Mariana 18s as well since I'm leaning towards sealed 18 inch sub. For those of you that have Mariana 18s, post some pics!
The last post on page 55 shows my Marianas. I could not be happier with them.
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The last post on page 55 shows my Marianas. I could not be happier with them.
May post link to it? Lots of people use different page lengths so the pages won't line up...

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May post link to it? Lots of people use different page lengths so the pages won't line up...
Here is his picture of Mariana 18s veneered to match his vintage Klipsch speakers. https://www.avsforum.com/forum/113-su...l#post52742953

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Nice! Those marianas look really good in light maple/oak finish with rest of your system.

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Nice! Those marianas look really good in light maple/oak finish with rest of your system.
Thanks!


David did a great job matching the color from a crappy cell phone picture with poor lighting.


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Here is a picture of custom dual Mariana 24's.

Definitely not as pretty as the 18's....
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I know these are some badass subs, but how would one of the Mariana 18 compare to a ported cap 1400? I know the DSS has a 4k watt amp but is sealed vs a 1400 watt amp. Just curious. This was one of my choices awhile back, but wasn't sure having a sealed for dedicated theater would give me the explosive impact a ported would.

Has DeepSea toyed w/ the idea of making a ported?
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I know these are some badass subs, but how would one of the Mariana 18 compare to a ported cap 1400? I know the DSS has a 4k watt amp but is sealed vs a 1400 watt amp. Just curious. This was one of my choices awhile back, but wasn't sure having a sealed for dedicated theater would give me the explosive impact a ported would.

Has DeepSea toyed w/ the idea of making a ported?
For a better comparison you should compare the DSS Mariana 18 to the JTR S1 both being sealed 18 inch driver. Ported will always have higher output at port tune vs sealed sub on that same frequency. DSS has bigger amp vs JTR. Not sure how the spl output compares but I'm sure if you look at the SI HT18 driver its probably similiar. David can probably answer better.

Generally if you're in sealed room.....sealed subs will get you lower extension compared to ported sub, but would take few sealed subs to match ported sub at port tune. You may want to ask @Marc Alexander since he is currently testing cap1400 and seaton F18 which should be similiar to DSS mariana both being sealed with same amp and he can give you his opinion.

You have dual jtr cap1400s....VERY powerful subs. Only time you would want to change to sealed subs if you wanted to chase single digit frequencies but it will take more than 2 subs to do it and match output of dual cap1400s. If you add more cap1400s...you still have that same freq drop at port tune and not get lower extension as sealed subs provide. Make sense?
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For a better comparison you should compare the DSS Mariana 18 to the JTR S1 both being sealed 18 inch driver. Ported will always have higher output at port tune vs sealed sub on that same frequency. DSS has bigger amp vs JTR. Not sure how the spl output compares but I'm sure if you look at the SI HT18 driver its probably similiar. David can probably answer better.

Generally if you're in sealed room.....sealed subs will get you lower extension compared to ported sub, but would take few sealed subs to match ported sub at port tune. You may want to ask @Marc Alexander since he is currently testing cap1400 and seaton F18 which should be similiar to DSS mariana both being sealed with same amp and he can give you his opinion.

You have dual jtr cap1400s....VERY powerful subs. Only time you would want to change to sealed subs if you wanted to chase single digit frequencies but it will take more than 2 subs to do it and match output of dual cap1400s. If you add more cap1400s...you still have that same freq drop at port tune and not get lower extension as sealed subs provide. Make sense?
Thanks, I know that a better comparison is the s1, but i was just curious how it stacks against the 1400. I appreciate the response.

Is DSS ever going to venture into the ported realm?
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Dimensions are identical to the S-1,,, 21"X21"X18". Dont know enough about drivers to comment between the two but obviously its a beast to handle 4000 watts. My guess is it would have one or two db's over the S-1.
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