Originally Posted by zeus33
Originally Posted by Reddig
Isnt that used in the Cap4000 or am I mistaken?
It's the Cap 1400 driver (and the S1 and S2). I thought that's the sub you meant when you said "dual caps". IIRC, the 4000 driver is very similar dimensions, but it is modified and different than the 1400 driver.
Originally Posted by Reddig
Dual caps would do nicely tho and I'd prefer them.
Cool thanks yes I was talking the cap1400. This is partially a stupid question as I think I already know the answer. Ive read a few graphs about the different Captivator drivers and driver models with much enthusiasm along with members testimony. Seems like just what the doc ordered to match my mains and goals of a system that can play cleanly at near reference give or take a db.
I notice a high turn around on JTR gear. Its always for sale but I don't see this as a bad sign. My guess is the JTR owners/fans want to keep experiencing the next best design and need to unload old gear for space and new kit $$$ and dealing with Jeff sounds like a good experience too.
I use JBL Pro 3677 mains and 8340a surrounds and they are at ease at cinema reference level or a bit more. I prefer to listen around -20 to-10 depending on the movie and if wifes in bed but from time time I like to unleash them a bit. More like most weekends my wife has to travel.
My PSA subs are dual XV-15se's, and before my new mains and surrounds were finally saved up for and ordered, I had less then 2k to buy dual active subs that could do my mains justice so I looked into PSA. I felt they might be a good choice considering that the feedback from the owner and along with his
knowledge and dozens of testimony gave me confidence in his thinkings and should be sound. Was told that I would have no problem with dual XV15se subs in my theater and with the JBLs, if anything,THEY couldn't keep up with the JBLs. UGH!! Needless to say they were wrong in their assumptions. Bass quits increasing in volume around 3-5db under reference in my system. AKA an increase in 1 db on the volume pot no longer translates to an actual 1 db increase. Its fortunatly 5db under the loudest i would ever listen except to impress guests who want to experience its limits. My best results come from setting each PSA sub at 75db and when summed balanced and calibrated, I gained 5db. In a perfect world adding another sub along with adding double power gets you 6db is that correct? This is the only way I can conserve enough dynamic headroom to match up to the cinema JBLs. The funny thing is is that I actually really like them and they get very near my goal. Although im not in the market im sure I will be again at some point so i want to plan.
I hate asking any more from PSA cause I feel like the info may not be correct. A loss of confidence. I do know that Mark or Jeff are the complete opposite of this and can be trusted and I already have passively through all the knowledge they leave on the forums and share. Passion speaks volumes.
So Mr. JTR sir or any other dude that cares to weigh in on this I have question that I feel few could answer (thanks zuess) but I must plan in the future to know for sure the capabilities before committing to yet another set of subs. In my dedicated basement 22x13.4x7 theater thats deaded and treated, would a pair of Cap1400s match up to the volume and dynamic headroom of my JBLs? Would a beefier model be a better choice. Im am not one to chase louder and louder bass as I did that from age 13- 25 only to realise that it can be and endless road but my next dual sub purchase will be my last and I need to know. What would you do if you had a system like mine? Will Cap1400s have to stress at any point at reference like levels? I know its not a perfect science and my room needs checked for what modes it possess and such but just generally with the 2 cap1400s play at those levels even when low end is boosted?
I have gone thru 4 extra subs from HSU alone and his answer would be jokingly but would say "my subs perfect volume, anything more is too much. It happened with HSU and with PSA tho in same maner.Very tired of incompetent workers who don't got the jewels to just admit Im not sure about that insteadd of bs. I have so many powered subs laying around that I shld sell. that another story. Dr. HSU did his thing and I believe the PSA gentlemen was part of SVS but I am not clear on Marks history. Anyway I guess they either underestimated my speakers capabilities by a mile. My best guess is that they just told me what I wanted to hear to get a sale as they themselves don't know. Im just guessing. Just hate how you can go out of your way to avoid a problem only to
get exactly the opposite of what was described. I had a family death at that time of purchase and I could not find time to box and return them before the deadline. Or I would have gotten a beefier design. I still do like them tho as they have a fun like tone to them thats less woofer and more speaker. I could live with them for many years.
But I already am planing my next subs purchase as my income does not allow affluent spendiing. A man can wish lol.
Thanks Jeff in advance and to all that takes the time to read and give an opinion.