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Well.....I'd say the Pierce is a one-of-a-kind and there's no doubt why you like it so much.

Wow, that is nuts! I’d say if GK got a pair for $700 those are some awesome drivers for the money. I’m trying to fathom a pair of these in a BOSS.
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I will say they were made for this, I just didn't know it at the time. I cannibalized the manifold and put part of it in the riser. Technically they are in the same home. I had 4 but when I dropped the IB I sold 2 to a friend who sold the vehicle he put them in so there is no getting them back.
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Probably doesn't change the conclusion but xmech is 50mm (100mm peak to peak is listed)
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I am just looking at this from a distance...

Basically a decoupled, infinite baffle, subwoofer setup....attached to your seating? And we are testing to see how much everything vibrates?

Maybe there is more to it than that, but I am just looking for the basics...before I read 70 pages, lol.

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This thread is about attempting to quantify a particular type of tactile response (i.e. vibration). The boss is the latest approach to producing that vibration but it is not the subject of the thread
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https://www.avsforum.com/forum/19-de...y-theater.html is the thread for the BOSS platforms themselves. The summary of them is in post 29.

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https://www.avsforum.com/forum/19-de...y-theater.html is the thread for the BOSS platforms themselves. The summary of them is in post 29.
Thanks. Seems like a very expensive and complicated bass-shaker experiment, to me.

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No, the whole point is that it is (at least it started as) a very INexpensive bass-shaker. I actually replaced my ButtKicker with a $30 speaker mounted to the back of my chair, with much more satisfactory results. VS results have been posted here. So stop over there (home theater thread linked above) and take a look.
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Probably doesn't change the conclusion but xmech is 50mm (100mm peak to peak is listed)
Ive measured the former doesn't bottom until just short of 80mm and that's with 2k watts. I can get it to 60mm with the ep2500 but that's when the amp taps out. I guess it depends how you want to calculate, use the spider, the former bottoming, cone travel. The suspension starts getting tight at 60mm but has the space to pull the surround to 100mm if the former didn't bottom out. I d rather hear a clank instead of whipping it out of the gap. Makes it moot I guess since it will be toast if it ever made it there. A one way trip as they say.

Those are a copy and paste from a email from Paul, and yes he's cherry picking and using the cone and surround for his number.

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You know you need to try the SI 18's
You know, @blister64 has only built the cabinet for 2 of his 3 HS-24s for far. Maybe we need to have a talk with him about a 20" tall riser...

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Thanks. Seems like a very expensive and complicated bass-shaker experiment, to me.
It's actually cheap compared to the alternatives. I was at about $750 for mine and that was for building the riser, 8 drivers, and an NX3000D. If I bought Crowsons it would have been over $3k for what I needed to get set-up.
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I've been waiting for you to do that. 3 steps up sit but that is certainly a endgame like Rob Hahn
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I've been waiting for you to do that. 3 steps up sit but that is certainly a endgame like Rob Hahn
Or maybe cut a round hole in the floor

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Or a bigger hole. Remember this?
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You know, @blister64 has only built the cabinet for 2 of his 3 HS-24s for far. Maybe we need to have a talk with him about a 20" tall riser...
Actually only 1 of the 3... and 2 couches. So this could work out perfectly.
Lol pretty sure I'd have to bolt the couches down to reduce the risk of going head first into the ceiling above!

Edit: Talked to wife. It's a no go. On a completely unrelated side note, if you come across a woman wielding a knife looking for me, please don't help her...

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Actually only 1 of the 3... and 2 couches. So this could work out perfectly.
Lol pretty sure I'd have to bolt the couches down to reduce the risk of going head first into the ceiling above!

Edit: Talked to wife. It's a no go. On a completely unrelated side note, if you come across a woman wielding a knife looking for me, please don't help her...
Gah, I mistyped. In my head I had it as you made 1 box and had 2 of 3 still left to use.

Don't worry about the knife wielding woman. Think of the TR. Myself and I'm sure @SBuger and a couple others would be willing to fly out to run interference with the wife to see it in action. I'll even bring a helmet incase I hit the ceiling.
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I got my BOSS build complete and the TR is awesome. I didnt have a 5lb bag of rice so I used a large bag of chocolate chips that felt like a good weight to use.

I did notice a lot of users that are using the m/s^2 instead of g, so i went ahead and did that. Not sure if that is the go to now or not. I know the user guide said otherwise.

My platform is for a single seat and I made cutouts for 4 drivers. Ive only got 2 installed right now, but 2 more are supposed to be on the way (FedEx lost them the first time around). It may not be the case, but hopefully 2 additional drivers will help with the lower frequency area (probably would need crowsons or something like a lot of people here have). I am running a LS filter as well.

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^^ is that with 2 drivers boss only or with sub also? Regardless that is awesome TR. is your bass at reference level? What is your LS? Any LPF?
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^^ is that with 2 drivers boss only or with sub also? Regardless that is awesome TR. is your bass at reference level? What is your LS? Any LPF?
Yeah, that is BOSS only. My nearfield 18s (VBSS) and Full Marty are both off for that test. That should be reference level bass, yes. For my Aventage 3050 receiver -5MV is reference, but my subs are about 10dB hot. I listen at -15 main volume which should put my speakers 10dB below reference but my subs right at it.

I'm using an LS of 10Hz Q0.5 4.4dB as recommended by @aron7awol . I've got the LPF pretty high at 65Hz right now just so I can feel all the TR off the start and dial it back to feel as I listen to more movies. Right now I'm loving feeling all the TR because I've never had it this intense but I'll probably want to tame it down some as I get more used to having it.

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What’s the “limit” on the VibSensor app? My test hit Z limit, and I don't see in the instruction manual where the limit is listed? iPhone 8+ if that matters?

I could use some help from the pros on vibsensor making sense of my testing data if anyone is willing. Post 2068.
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It depends on the device. I know there are apps on Android that show raw device data including sensitivity but not sure about iOS.
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I've been reading and following this thread for about a week and did some measurements yesterday. I'm looking forward to improving my TR with a BOSS build, but for starters wanted to measure how effective my twin Aura shakers are in my couch already.

Looking back after posting these screenshots, I should have done one more test and that would have been with Shakers only.

I don't think I got the timing right with starting the test at the correct time in EOT, but again its a start. Graphs are labeled and all measurements were with MV at -20 and Audyssey on.

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Use the linear for the x axis and you'll be able to see 0-50hz a lot better (just click linear at the bottom).

I was told to use m/s^2 instead of g for units even though that's different than the guide says. It looks like your TR is really strong, but it will be easier to tell after you adjust the frequency to linear on the graph.

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Thanks for the comments. That does make it much easier to read as well as the intensity.
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Thanks for the comments. That does make it much easier to read as well as the intensity.

Wow, that’s actually very good TR for just two of those shakers! However, the signal should get progressively stronger down to 10Hz, but this is similar to most people’s setups where shakers lose a lot of intensity below 15-20Hz. Hopefully the BOSS helps you pick up some more on the lower end, but 10Hz TR is still hard to achieve for most without MA’s.

I’ll post an EOT graph in a couple days when my BOSS 2.0 is done.
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The VibSensor Accelerometer Test Thread

After finishing BOSS 2.0! I don’t have any comparison data for the previous build, but the 10Hz is definitely much stronger. Haven’t really tweaked anything yet.



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^^^WOW, those are some great graphs!! That has to be a noticable upgrade! Nice job, man
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Would someone take a look and let me know if this is about where I need to be on EOT with my BOSS? Thanks in advance
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