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down to dual PSA S1500 or dual SVS SB13-Ultra

Both fit dimension limitations. I suspect duals of either will be great. Wife likes the look of cherry S1500 a little better.








any comments from the peanut gallery to break the tie?
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Both fit dimension limitations. I suspect duals of either will be great. Wife likes the look of cherry S1500 a little better.








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Easy choice--S1500's. They're quite a bit cheaper, and your wife likes how they look more.
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Both fit dimension limitations. I suspect duals of either will be great. Wife likes the look of cherry S1500 a little better.








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I believe you have the answer.

Code for "a little better"- don't even think about getting the other one.
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Sounds like a sale for PSA.
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Another vote for dual cherry S1500s...

Made in USA, it has higher output and the wife likes the color better. You get to save $$$ too!!!
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S-1500 all the way. Those premium finishes are awesome!

Oh and the performance is superior too

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I have auditioned both, I received the S1500 first and the SB13U came few days later...during the trial period, I A/B both subwoofers, music and movies. I preferred the sound signature of the S13U, While not a perfect blind test, I did have assistance to help with the test as I wanted to choose the subwoofer with the best sound qualities. To me looks were not an issue as the subwoofer is not visible in my media room, but the design and overall visual appearance is much more appealing for a modern/updated living space. SVS did a nice job with their sub design and metal grill. Also the parts on the SB13U look to be a notch above the S1500. I would have liked to love the S1500, could have helped me save $ in my build budget, but the SB13U was exactly what I was after and I wanted to do it right the first time.

I would buy both since they offer free audition and see which you prefer. You will usually get recommendations based on output data found online vs actual users who have owned both.

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Both fit dimension limitations. I suspect duals of either will be great. Wife likes the look of cherry S1500 a little better.

any comments from the peanut gallery to break the tie?
It may not be a fair comparison as both are at different price points.

If u have suffice budget, juz go for the SVS and dont look back.

If u want to save monies and get the most bang for your buck, get the PSA.
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It may not be a fair comparison as both are at different price points.

If u have suffice budget, juz go for the SVS and dont look back.

If u want to save monies and get the most bang for your buck, get the PSA.
They may be at different price points, but they are comparable in terms of performance and capability.
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I Also the parts on the SB13U look to be a notch above the S1500.
What do you base this opinion on?

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What do you base this opinion on?
Pretty obvious it's his personal opinion. What else would it be?
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Haven’t heard the S1500, but do own the XS30 and S3000i, as well as the SB13-Ultra. For music, it’s the Ultra, then the S3000i, then the XS30. For movies it’s the S3000i, XS30, then the Ultra. That is my impressions in my home, at the sound levels I play, with the music I like. YMMV.
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Pretty obvious it's his personal opinion. What else would it be?
Well of course, but how about some specifics as to what the general comment was based on? I was kinda wondering...
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Well of course, but how about some specifics as to what the general comment was based on? I was kinda wondering...
I'll guess the spanky metal grill? It's about the only thing you can see without taking the amp or driver out. Maybe it's the weight, gloss finish, oak finish, digital controls??????

Doesn't matter to any of us, only to the OP.

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I'll guess the spanky metal grill? It's about the only thing you can see without taking the amp or driver out. Maybe it's the weight, gloss finish, oak finish, digital controls??????

Doesn't matter to any of us, only to the OP.
There's a lot of "cool factor" with the sb13ultra to be sure. Just the frame on the driver is very cool. Of course Jim designed the entire thing but that's beside the point..

Doing everything in china does allow options we'll likely never enjoy here with a Made-in-USA product. All sorts of cool tooling, options, etc. Just boxing artwork for example. What might cost $50 a box here might be 1/10th of that there. Then again, we don't have to walk around with respiratory gear either so perhaps that isn't a bad trade? Put the S1500 and the SB13u next to each other and it may seem like a vette next to a lambo. Both have their audience but dat lambo...

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Put the S1500 and the SB13u next to each other and it may seem like a vette next to a lambo. Both have their audience but dat lambo...

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But the new Z06 will spank the lambo on the track, so.......looks? performance? both? none?

It's great to live in a free market economy where we can decide what the most important factors are.

As for the vette- it's a looker as long as you never have to walk up behind it.

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I'll guess the spanky metal grill? It's about the only thing you can see without taking the amp or driver out. Maybe it's the weight, gloss finish, oak finish, digital controls??????

Doesn't matter to any of us, only to the OP.
Personal preference and opinion is fine, but when it comes to claiming that the SB13U uses better parts, I'd like to know what that opinion is based on. Because the custom Eminence driver and Speakerpower ICE amp of the S1500 are high quality by any reasonable standard.

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Personal preference and opinion is fine, but when it comes to claiming that the SB13U uses better parts, I'd like to know what that opinion is based on. Because the custom Eminence driver and Speakerpower ICE amp of the S1500 are high quality by any reasonable standard.
It does not matter why the OP said what he said. It's a personal opinion, not a professional review. It matters none outside of the OP's place of residence. Heck, the OP did not need to give any reason.
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It does not matter why the OP said what he said. It's a personal opinion, not a professional review. It matters none outside of the OP's place of residence. Heck, the OP did not need to give any reason.
It wasn't the OP that said it. You don't need to keep defending @deepat04 's statement either. His opinion may be worthless, but until he fills us in on what parts he's referring to, who knows?
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It wasn't the OP that said it. You don't need to keep defending @deepat04 's statement either. His opinion may be worthless, but until he fills us in on what parts he's referring to, who knows?
In "OP" I was referring to the poster you are referring to- case of my mistaken use of "OP".

Why are you so concerned about a single opinion from someone you do not know, about something that has no bearing on you or anyone else?

Both products are readily available for in home auditions should anyone want to compare them, no risk involved.

Maybe you should do that and give us your opinion.

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It does not matter why the OP said what he said. It's a personal opinion, not a professional review. It matters none outside of the OP's place of residence. Heck, the OP did not need to give any reason.
1) It's not the OP who made that claim. It's a member weighing in on the OP's question of which sub he ought to pick between the SB13U and the S1500.

2) Regardless of whether it's a personal opinion or professional review, such a post should have more substance than "it looks to have better parts than X" when another person may very well rely upon that opinion.

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In "OP" I was referring to the poster you are referring to- case of my mistaken use of "OP".

Why are you so concerned about a single opinion from someone you do not know, about something that has no bearing on you or anyone else?

Both products are readily available for in home auditions should anyone want to compare them, no risk involved.

Maybe you should do that and give us your opinion.
If someone makes a statement like that, it would be nice to have something of substance other than some vague knock. Why is it so important to you that it go unremarked? Weird.

Don't need to audition these subs, even if the cost could be borne by someone actually interested in purchasing one. Personally am only interested in building my own from here on out but that doesn't mean I'm not interested in specifics of what people experienced with the commercial products, but it could help me determine if deepat04's opinion is worth noting, too. Maybe the OP (i.e. the thread starter) would like to know the specifics of why deepat04 said what he did as well. It's a forum for just such an exchange of thoughts and opinions....
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If someone makes a statement like that, it would be nice to have something of substance other than some vague knock. Why is it so important to you that it go unremarked? Weird.
The only thing weird is your apparent obsession with knowing the exact specifics of one particular sentence posted on an internet forum.

Unrelenting obsession is weird.

Over and out. Radio silence initiated.
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If someone makes a statement like that, it would be nice to have something of substance other than some vague knock.
I think most give such posts the credibility they deserve. To some degree they tend to "work" in reverse... at least they have for me over the years.

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I think most give such posts the credibility they deserve. To some degree they tend to "work" in reverse... at least they have for me over the years.
If he hadn't had both subs I wouldn't even think twice about it but since he did and made the comment I'd just like to know more as to what parts he's talking about. Back to the original scheduled programming...
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If he hadn't had both subs I wouldn't even think twice about it but since he did and made the comment I'd just like to know more as to what parts he's talking about. Back to the original scheduled programming...
The driver in the Ultra is one of the most stout commercial offerings available. Thing weighs like 42 pounds (that's almost as much as the far larger ultimax 18). The sledge amp is also realllllly nice in terms of DSP options.

I can see why someone could come to that conclusion. In terms of performance though, the S1500 should have a clear advantage by a a couple dB.

The box that thing sits in is also a lot prettier in person than the pictures give it credit for.

If it was me though, I'd go with the PSA offering. Lower price and higher output.
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well, my wife asked me about reviews. Made me realize that while there are several glowing "independent" reviews on the ultra there are none that I can find on the S1500. There are a few user reviews on the S1500 but far fewer than the ultra. I suspect either will put out much more "output" than we'll ever use. Really looking for very clean well distributed bass. So while the SVS is a bit more $ it looks less risk and probably better re-sale as well (even though my sons tend to get my leftovers for free). So...as of this moment the ultra is my leaning.
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Both companies offer free shipping as well as free return shipping within a defined period of time (45 days for SVS and 30 for PSA, IIRC). A no-cost, in-home demo of either sub - or both subs - seems like a no-brainer.

IMO, demo the cherry S1500s first:
- If you don't like them, send them back, get the SB13-Ultras and you're done.
- If you do like them, you're done. Enjoy them and enjoy the money you saved.

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well, my wife asked me about reviews. Made me realize that while there are several glowing "independent" reviews on the ultra there are none that I can find on the S1500. There are a few user reviews on the S1500 but far fewer than the ultra. I suspect either will put out much more "output" than we'll ever use. Really looking for very clean well distributed bass. So while the SVS is a bit more $ it looks less risk and probably better re-sale as well (even though my sons tend to get my leftovers for free). So...as of this moment the ultra is my leaning.
FYI, both Tom Vodhanel and Jim Farina (PSA's owners) came from SVS, with Tom being a co-founder of SVS (the "V"). Jim designed the SB13-Ultra, as mentioned above by Tom.

IMHO, since the design team is essentially the same, I see no more risk with the S1500 vs the SB13U. Though you can't really go wrong with either.
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There are a few user reviews on the S1500 but far fewer than the ultra.

So while the SVS is a bit more $ it looks less risk and probably better re-sale as well (even though my sons tend to get my leftovers for free).
Hasn't the SVS been out considerably longer hence the additional "press"? Resell I would think it depends on your target market. Here I think PSA would retain much more of its value as it's looked at being more bang for the buck (my take). SVS might be better for the casual enthusiast as name recognition might come into play.

However I agree with the above advice. Demo both... I did (my two choices) and there was a clear winner. With their powerful influence on the installation and as long as one typically keeps speakers it seems a shame not to...

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