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Hmmm that's interesting... My Amps do not have a JTR logo printed on them, there is no XLR / RCA switch and the cabinet is 39.5''H.
The amp plate should look like this:


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Hey Todd, this is a pic from a 2017 Cap 1400 that I had tested.

The amp plate for the 1400 and the 2400ULF are different.

The 1400 has the ICE POWER amp and the amp plate is square.

The 2400ULF has the torpedo amp and the amp plate is rectangular.
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The amp plate should look like this:



Is this your 4K amp pic?


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Is this your 4K amp pic?
That picture is not of MY 4000ULF amp plate. However, it is of A 4000W amp plate from SpeakerPower.

http://www.speakerpower.net/store/p28/SP1-4000-HT.html

The 2400ULFs' amp that we received in the group buy did not have JTR logo:

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Is this your 4K amp pic?
That picture is not of MY 4000ULF amp plate. However, it is of A 4000W amp plate from SpeakerPower.

http://www.speakerpower.net/store/p28/SP1-4000-HT.html

The 2400ULFs' amp that we received in the group buy did not have JTR logo:

According to Marc A, JTR stopped putting the logo on the Amp in 2017. He also confirmed his cabinet is 39.5"h. So maybe a misprint on the web or maybe with feet. Doesn't really matter.

The gain knob may not be on exactly correct from Speakerpower which may be the difference in volume. I'll check later.

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If you dont have a sound meter but have Audessey on your receiver set the gain on the subs reasonably high, start a calibration then it will prompt you to lower the sub gain until you get to 75db. Use this to adjust the gain on each sub (only turn on one at a time), so they both are set to 75db.
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Nope. There is no update to the Cap 4000ULF.

Personally I wouldn't mind if he put in a 6000W amp instead. I believe the massive drivers he uses on the 1400 / 2400ULF / 4000ULF can handle more than 3000W...
The OSLFU has a 4000w amp with a single driver so why not a dual driver Cap 6000ULF!!!


For that matter for the $100 difference in amps drop a 4000w amp in a 2400 cab (10hz)

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The next level up from the SpeakerPower 2400W plate amp is the 4000W amp, so unless Jeff starts sourcing amps from other vendors...

However, I am sure many wouldn't mind paying the difference in price to get a couple more dB up top. This is of course assuming that the beefy driver can utilize 4000W.
Curious if the 2400 cab is a limiting factor as the OSLFU and Cap4000 are much larger volume cabs?

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The amp plate should look like this:

It looks like that, except there is no RCA / XLR switch. It is covered by a plug.

I think I am going to try to do a subwoofer crawl to get the bass to sound best / loudest at the MLP.

I have the denon 4400 and I don't know if there is a phase control, and there also isn't a phase switch on the back of the plate amp.

Is this something that is automatically taken care of by the 4400 or how can I control it with what I have if necessary if the best places to put them are on opposite or random walls?

EDIT: Also, a long with doing the sub crawl are there any recommendations on placement? For example, middle of front wall, and middle of side wall (which would be next to the MLP) etc?

Attached is a layout of the room. Currently the 2400s are next to the TV in the 14 inch section, so actually the right 2400 is at about 12-14 feet of the width or halfway of the entire room so that might be an optimal place.
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I am roughly in th same stage you are. I would suggest reading the REW 101 guide from AustinJerry and the sub guide from @mthomas47 . Buy a umik and download REW. Then let the experimenting begin. That way you can find the best sound for your room.

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My Amps do not have a JTR logo printed on them, there is no XLR / RCA switch and the cabinet is 39.5''H.


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So there is no XLR/ RCA switch on the amp. Then how does it detect what you are using? Autodetect?

I would love to have the JTR logo on the back though
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I am roughly in th same stage you are. I would suggest reading the REW 101 guide from AustinJerry and the sub guide from @mthomas47 . Buy a umik and download REW. Then let the experimenting begin. That way you can find the best sound for your room.

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I would love to read these. Where can I find them?
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Personally I wouldn't mind if he put in a 6000W amp instead. I believe the massive drivers he uses on the 1400 / 2400ULF / 4000ULF can handle more than 3000W...
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The OSLFU has a 4000w amp with a single driver so why not a dual driver Cap 6000ULF!!!
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Curious if the 2400 cab is a limiting factor as the OSLFU and Cap4000 are much larger volume cabs?
Anyone with 240V can request the 6000W amp. Even if you want 2400s with the 240V amp. (The 700W & 1400W ICE amps have universal supplies, 100-250V I believe).

I actually discussed this with Jeff a few weeks ago. It is more about where power is used in regards to what amps Jeff specs out. The amps utilized in the 2400 and 4000 have power to spare, limiting is used to prevent over-excursion. So adding more power isn't going to change the engineering.
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Ok, that's kind of what I figured. I know chuck7's amp has a logo and a connector switch but that's on the 4k. I'm assuming the height difference is due to the different design or it's a measurement with feet.
I don't remember seeing the logo on his 4k. Only his 2015 1400.
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Hey Todd, this is a pic from a 2017 Cap 1400 that I had tested.

This is likely one of the last amps with the logo. The Cap 118HT I received prior had no logo.
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According to Marc A, JTR stopped putting the logo on the Amp in 2017. He also confirmed his cabinet is 39.5"h. So maybe a misprint on the web or maybe with feet. Doesn't really matter.
I suspect the longer dimension reflects the lowrider Cap 2400ULF.
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The gain knob may not be on exactly correct from Speakerpower which may be the difference in volume. I'll check later.
I noticed this on my pair of Seaton MFW-15 Turbos. The dot was not in the exact same position on the two amps. Simply turn gain all the way down and compare (physically). The knobs come right off and can be put back to match two subs more exactly. There is no notch like some knobs have.
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It looks like that, except there is no RCA / XLR switch. It is covered by a plug.
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So there is no XLR/ RCA switch on the amp. Then how does it detect what you are using? Autodetect?
The XLR/RCA switch was really just a 6dB pad. The RCA & XLR inputs have always both been active on the Speakerpower amps AFAIK. Some folks probably have them flipped and don't even know. Guilty!
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It looks like that, except there is no RCA / XLR switch. It is covered by a plug.
That is truly weird. My 2015 1400 and 4000ULF both have the RCA/XLR switch.

The amp plate of my 4000ULF:


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I have the denon 4400 and I don't know if there is a phase control, and there also isn't a phase switch on the back of the plate amp.
The SpeakerPower amps used by JTR do not have phase control. they do have the "delay" which functions similarly, if not better. In general, the delay should be left at 0ms during set up, as the Audyssey should take care of phase.

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Attached is a layout of the room. Currently the 2400s are next to the TV in the 14 inch section, so actually the right 2400 is at about 12-14 feet of the width or halfway of the entire room so that might be an optimal place.
If I have to guess, a 2400ULF placed at A should be louder than when placed at B.




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I noticed this on my pair of Seaton MFW-15 Turbos. The dot was not in the exact same position on the two amps. Simply turn gain all the way down and compare (physically). The knobs come right off and can be put back to match two subs more exactly. There is no notch like some knobs have.
Does 2400 have detent on the gain knob? How about 4000?

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Ok, that's kind of what I figured. I know chuck7's amp has a logo and a connector switch but that's on the 4k. I'm assuming the height difference is due to the different design or it's a measurement with feet.

I've got an email into Jeff just for clarification.

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These are good questions that you and Andrew are asking. BTW does 2400 have detent on gain knob?

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Would that hurt the subwoofer in terms of quality and output of sound compared to the older version? Would you prefer the older version then?
I would think of new 2400 as the "next" model, or the improved version, so IMHO the new model is definitely the one to get. I suspect it's a result of Jeff having more time to experiment with the design and to refine it. First version is world class as is, and newer version improves upon it - that's the fate for all of our toys anyway :-).

Of note, I'm not sure but AFAIK because net volume matters (net volume = volume of subwoofer - volume of the port itself), ie internal port tube takes up volume and "detracts" from performance, the newer 1 port 2400 might have gained in performance on that issue alone vs the 2 port 2400. The newer 2400 has more internal volume, and volume is king.

I think chucky7 has mentioned a similar concept, that you could always "down tune" a subwoofer to taste, but you could never up tune it, to gain that 10 Hz output which in the new 2400 is among THE most powerful in all commercial offerings (all this for only $2500! ). At any rate, I'd trust Jeff's ears and skills, that subjectively and objectively it's an improvement, as he has much riding on any of his product, especially the star attraction that is the 2400.

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These are good questions that you and Andrew are asking. BTW does 2400 have detent on gain knob?
Yes, it does. I’m not really that concerned. Just things that I have noticed. As far as the gain difference, identical subs aren’t “identical“. I figure it’s probably within tolerance and/or my room. Just waiting for Jeff to reply just to see what he says.

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So I thought I would post my excited first impressions of the first day with the beasts— Dual JTR Captivator 2400s! Level matched and a perfect curve with the audyssey XT32 iPhone app.

HOLY ELEPHANT— RHINOCEROS— BLUE WHALE— 50 MAGNUM— GATLING GUN SLAMMING— 50 MEGATON THERMO NUCLEAR EXPLOSION! WOW!!

Last night I played tons of the iTunes trailers on my Apple TV 4k for fun— loud at about -5 trim.

PORT WIND IS CRAZY!!!! THIS IS AWESOME.

and and and

I put on the trailer for Pacific Rim Uprising and my sofa was shaking like never before! My concrete floor was moving I am pretty sure! I could feel the vibrations on the floor through my feet!

I thought I still had my shakers on, and I even got up to check because it was so crazy but this felt different AND way better than shakers ever could!

This deep, intense low rumble and tactile sensation is amazing. My room is HUGE too, 7000+ cubic feet, approx 25x30 with 18 foot ceilings and the dual 2400s are POUNDING.

Watching all of the Jurassic Parks this afternoon in preparation for the new release!

THESE SUBWOOFERS ARE SPECTACULAR. THE EMPEROR AND RULER OF THE KINGDOM THAT IS "SUB LAND."

All of sub land. All of it.

The Captivator 2400 is unbelievable.
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That pretty much sums them up! LMAO Welcome to the family.
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That pretty much sums them up! LMAO Welcome to the family.
He was already in the family...

He upgraded from the JTR Cap 1400.

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He was already in the family...

He upgraded from the JTR Cap 1400.




Yep I bought his black oak veneer Cap 1400.
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That pretty much sums them up! LMAO Welcome to the family.
Haha Super fun!

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He was already in the family...

He upgraded from the JTR Cap 1400.

Yeah!

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Yep I bought his black oak veneer Cap 1400.
Hi! That 1400 is beautiful and amazing too!

Here are some photos of the room. The window behind is really not that bright as there are curtains. I just set the exposure to show the subwoofers mostly.

Keep in mind that dark gray front wall is 14 feet wide, the 2400s look intimidating staring you down. I did a sub crawl too and believe it or not they are actually pretty optimally placed. There were perhaps two better spots but then they didn't have the same tactile response on the sofa. Very cool!

Oh and I am creating a long list of some of the best bass & atmos movies as I just upgraded to 7.2.4 recently.

Here is the list I compiled so far!

10 Cloverfield Lane
12 Strong
13 Hours
9
Alien Covenant
American Sniper
Apollo 13
Baby Driver
Batman vs Superman
Battle LA
Blade runner 2049
Captain America the winter soldier
Casino Royal
Cloverfield
Deep Water Horizon
Den of Thieves
Dredd
Dunkirk
Earth to Echo
Enders Game
Everest
Expendable 3
Fury
Gravity
Hacksaw Ridge
Harry Potter 7 Part 2
Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 1
Incredible Hulk
Jock Wick 2
John Wick
Justice League
Kong: Skull Island
LEGO: NinjaGo
LIFE
Live Free or Die Hard
Logan
Lone Survivor
Mad Max: Fury Road
Magnificent 7
Man of Steel
Maze Runner: The Death Cure
Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol
Mission Impossible: Rogue Nation
Oblivion
Olympus Has Fallen
Pacific Rim
Pacific Rim Uprising
Power Rangers
Real Steel
San Andreas
Saving Private Ryan
Sicario
Spider-Man: Homecoming
Star Wars the Force Awakens
Super 8
Terminator Salvation
The Accountant
The Avengers
The Equalizer
The Greatest Showman
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The Wall - Roger waters
Total Recall
Transformers
Transformers the Last Knight
Tron Legacy
Unbroken
War Horse
War of The Worlds
Wonder Woman

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The Jurrasic Parks are among my wife's favorites. She said she never fully experienced them until we got the 2400ULF. She also thought I had upgraded the main speakers, which I had not. (We haven't the experienced dts: X tracks yet).

The Good Dinosaur also has some good bass scenes (flood, stampede).

Live, Die, Repeat: The Edge of Tomorrow is one of my favorite bass demo movies. Not for the intro, but the beach battle scenes have a great array of bass effects. I think it gets overlooked because of the intro.

Interstellar & Nolan's Batman Trilogy.

I need to pickup the UHD of Saving Private Ryan.
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So I thought I would post my excited first impressions of the first day with the beasts— Dual JTR Captivator 2400s! Level matched and a perfect curve with the audyssey XT32 iPhone app.

HOLY ELEPHANT— RHINOCEROS— BLUE WHALE— 50 MAGNUM— GATLING GUN SLAMMING— 50 MEGATON THERMO NUCLEAR EXPLOSION! WOW!!

Last night I played tons of the iTunes trailers on my Apple TV 4k for fun— loud at about -5 trim.

PORT WIND IS CRAZY!!!! THIS IS AWESOME.

and and and

I put on the trailer for Pacific Rim Uprising and my sofa was shaking like never before! My concrete floor was moving I am pretty sure! I could feel the vibrations on the floor through my feet!

I thought I still had my shakers on, and I even got up to check because it was so crazy but this felt different AND way better than shakers ever could!

This deep, intense low rumble and tactile sensation is amazing. My room is HUGE too, 7000+ cubic feet, approx 25x30 with 18 foot ceilings and the dual 2400s are POUNDING.

Watching all of the Jurassic Parks this afternoon in preparation for the new release!

THESE SUBWOOFERS ARE SPECTACULAR. THE EMPEROR AND RULER OF THE KINGDOM THAT IS "SUB LAND."

All of sub land. All of it.

The Captivator 2400 is unbelievable.

So 2 of these should augment my 2 new Noesis 215RT's well in my 9x17 with 7 foot ceilings 2 channel dedicated listening room really well. LOL
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Haha Super fun!



Yeah!



Hi! That 1400 is beautiful and amazing too!

Here are some photos of the room. The window behind is really not that bright as there are curtains. I just set the exposure to show the subwoofers mostly.

Keep in mind that dark gray front wall is 14 feet wide, the 2400s look intimidating staring you down. I did a sub crawl too and believe it or not they are actually pretty optimally placed. There were perhaps two better spots but then they didn't have the same tactile response on the sofa. Very cool!

Oh and I am creating a long list of some of the best bass & atmos movies as I just upgraded to 7.2.4 recently.

Here is the list I compiled so far!

10 Cloverfield Lane
12 Strong
13 Hours
9
Alien Covenant
American Sniper
Apollo 13
Baby Driver
Batman vs Superman
Battle LA
Blade runner 2049
Captain America the winter soldier
Casino Royal
Cloverfield
Deep Water Horizon
Den of Thieves
Dredd
Dunkirk
Earth to Echo
Enders Game
Everest
Expendable 3
Fury
Gravity
Hacksaw Ridge
Harry Potter 7 Part 2
Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 1
Incredible Hulk
Jock Wick 2
John Wick
Justice League
Kong: Skull Island
LEGO: NinjaGo
LIFE
Live Free or Die Hard
Logan
Lone Survivor
Mad Max: Fury Road
Magnificent 7
Man of Steel
Maze Runner: The Death Cure
Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol
Mission Impossible: Rogue Nation
Oblivion
Olympus Has Fallen
Pacific Rim
Pacific Rim Uprising
Power Rangers
Real Steel
San Andreas
Saving Private Ryan
Sicario
Spider-Man: Homecoming
Star Wars the Force Awakens
Super 8
Terminator Salvation
The Accountant
The Avengers
The Equalizer
The Greatest Showman
The Legend of Tarzan
The Wall - Roger waters
Total Recall
Transformers
Transformers the Last Knight
Tron Legacy
Unbroken
War Horse
War of The Worlds
Wonder Woman

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Power Rangers?

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Don't laugh... Power Rangers is one of the better bassy flicks from 2017... I know... Tell me about it...

What the Hollywood is churning out lately is appalling and pathetic.
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@Drew1204 , nice review of 2400 and great list of movies. I would add the 6 below as each has some of the biggest bass EVER recorded onto movies. Of these HTTYD is an all time classic and has one of the most awesome PvA graphs ever. All available for pennies on ebay of course.

1. Flight of the Phoenix
2. Underworld: Awakening
3. How To Train Your Dragon
4. Percy Jackson and the Lightning Thief
5 & 6. Lord of the Rings - Fellowship of the Ring and Return of the King (Oscar nomination and Oscar winner for sound.)

How To Train Your Dragon Goodness that ending :-).


Underworld: Awakening is another can't miss PvA champ:


Live Free Die Hard. You already have this but worth posting the top notch PvA. This is one of my most favorites, with some monumental scenes that have to be seen and heard to believe.

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