Originally Posted by chucky7
Are you talking about feeler #1
or feeler #2
is 15" driver, 1200W amp, 10Hz tuned in Cap 2400's cabinet, $1,999 + shipping.
is 15" driver, 2400W amp, 10Hz tuned, 24" H x 18" W x 20" D, $2399 + shipping.
Both are aimed at the people who want to spend less than Cap 2400 ($2499 + shipping).
Originally Posted by muscles
Honestly, I don't think either are particularly a good idea. JTR subs are pricey as it is because they are no compromise subs, for a very niche demographic. Those aren't significant enough discounts to steer the type of person JTR attracts away from a Cap2400. Once you consider the cost of those lower end JTR subs with shipping the competition has much more to choose from that will most likely have more output above 16hz. Chasing the low frequency dragon is never going to be cheap and those that do should realize this and save up for a big boy
I know that Jeff is intent on pursuing the 10Hz niche, but as the cabinets, woofer, or amplifier power get smaller, 10Hz makes less and less sense to me. If as Can suggested, Jeff wants to bring back a version of the Cap 1400, with whatever size driver, in whatever size cabinet, I would suggest that he allow the port tune to be up in the 14Hz or higher range.
I remain convinced that there is no practical difference between a 10Hz port-tuned Cap 2400ULF, and a 14Hz port-tuned Cap 2400ULF, except for some slight redistribution of SPL from about the >15Hz range to the <15Hz range. Side-by-side, I doubt that anyone could tell the difference with 99.9% of available content.
As any new model JTR subs become more economical and less powerful, the idea that they will pair well with much more powerful JTR subs, just because they have the same port tune, becomes more far-fetched to me. The DSP used in the more powerful subs will be very different from the DSP used in the much less powerful ones, even if the port tunes are the same. And, they may be difficult to integrate even with measurement capability and independent DSP.
I like the fact that JTR still produces a Cap 118HT, with an 18Hz port tune. That gives people very clear choices between the higher-tuned (18Hz), greater mid-bass 118, and the lower-tuned, greater low-bass Cap 2400's. (The Cap 4000ULF is in a class by itself.) It seems to me that if he wants a smaller, less expensive model, he should go up in tuning point, and make certain that he is getting a little more mid-bass and >15Hz bass, in the process, rather than still trying to hit the 10Hz niche with a smaller less powerful sub.
Of course, some potential buyers may be captivated (pun intended) by the idea of having a small and relatively inexpensive 10Hz subwoofer. But, I don't know that I would encourage that idea too much. I tend to agree that 10Hz is mostly for the bigger subs, and it costs something to achieve in a meaningful way.