Originally Posted by muscles
You win, I am by no means a chart reading, stats chasing person. Would I remove the C2600 from my system....nope. I am a hands on person, I am fortunate to live next to many dealers that let me take stuff to try all the time. If there isn't a massive difference I wouldn't consider it. You seem like a very condescending person, almost toxic. So let's just stop ruining this thread and get back on topic. For the record you totally won, and you can have a celebratory beer/soda or whatever you like.
Let me add some quality content to this derailment. I have owned more subs than any human should, and I have heard many more. Nothing....I mean nothing prepares you for the ULF4000 and its violent output. Charts may say that some are close, but in person it is an experience. If someone is chasing the low end dragon, then switching two PB16's for a ULF4000 would be the avenue I would go. Also, the SVS have amazing resale value and are in huge demand. I think it took less than a week to sell anything SVS I have ever owned.
Me condescending? Uh, 'drivel' 'nonsense'? Point to anything I've said that is anywhere near as condescending as that. You accused me of giving anecdotal support for what I said, I didn't, but that is all
you have provided. Do you know what anecdotal means? If someone gives a quote of testing results, gives citations of supporting material, that is the opposite of anecdotal. If someone supports their claim by insisting they hear something, claims others he has had over to his house and they agree with him, and says everyone in a forum topic dedicated to the same piece of equipment he is claiming is dramatically superior agree with him, that IS anecdotal. I have called you out twice now, this is third, and you refuse to retract the glaring error in your claim.
You also claimed AVR manufacturers don't care about 2channel audio and provide little support it for and only substandard components etc and I pointed out how both Yamaha and Denon provide for Direct and Pure modes for 2channel, a direct contradiction of your claim, yet you continue to make this claim. I don't doubt your considerable audio experience and knowledge, only some of the claims you've made and I have supported my position with facts and quotes, you have only repeated your opinions and the opinions of others.
Can you refute any of the above? Simply saying I'm wrong isn't a refutation, see Monty Python for the great argument clinic bit.