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Do not feel bad with all that 4K buying, I got tired of not having movies, never was a collector and purchased 800 + DVD`s in one shot a couple months ago.......so the corruption from this thread is strong !
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First time watching The Accountant, I'm 20 min in....does this movie need to be played louder than usual?
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First time watching The Accountant, I'm 20 min in....does this movie need to be played louder than usual?
Not that I recall, it's been a while since I watched it. If you do crank the volume be aware there are gun shots in this that are loud! I remember watching it for the first time at around midnight and jumping for the remote so the cops weren't called
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First time watching The Accountant, I'm 20 min in....does this movie need to be played louder than usual?


I actually believe that the audio track was spot on. The scene at the farm with the Barret 50 was crazy as well as the closing assault on the house. The repetitive gun shots are crazy...🤪 BTW I just watched this yesterday at -15 MV


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Don't get me wrong the audio was amazing! I'm not trying to take that away because I was excited when those moments came too. It's just the dialog that I found very low. I read other reviews who feel the same also. So because I had my volume set a lil louder than usual, those loud moments were intense lol.

My receiver goes 0-100 on volume. I have to find a way to convert that into the volume measurement most of you use on here.
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Started watching Last Jedi tonight. It definitely has some good bass although at times I thought it was a little muddy and not as textured if that makes any sense. Still plenty of fun LFE though. However so far underwhelmed with the 4K DV picture. Not nearly the kind of pop you’d expect from DV/HDR. What is most annoying was the choice to make the space scenes gray instead of black. It just looks washed out especially on OLED when you expect inky blacks. I noticed the same thing in the theater (usually a very good Cinemark XD theater) but figured it wasn’t calibrated well or something but apparently not. Some shots are a little soft too. Oh well.
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Just finished watching The Last Jedi. I read Ralph Potts review on it a few days ago and he stated he had to turn his MV up several db above his average level just to get some impact. After watching it tonight I agree with him. I usually listen at -10 but with this movie I had it at -2 and even then some impact still seem to be lacking with the explosions. Overall the sound was good but the dynamics were lacking to me....especially compared to The Force Awakens.
I did a quick and dirty sweep session on my setup just before watching TLJ and felt like I got things pretty well dialed in, aiming at a previous target curve I had saved which I liked a lot. The bass was actually slightly more elevated than my previous EQ so I was expecting a pretty good ride once I hit play. I had purposefully not visited this thread this week to avoid any tainting of my viewing, so with that said:

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I did a quick and dirty sweep session on my setup just before watching TLJ and felt like I got things pretty well dialed in, aiming at a previous target curve I had saved which I liked a lot. The bass was actually slightly more elevated than my previous EQ so I was expecting a pretty good ride once I hit play. I had purposefully not visited this thread this week to avoid any tainting of my viewing, so with that said:

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It seems like we all think alike on here....lol. I saw TLJ in a Dolby Cinema theater and was not overly impressed with the presentation but still enjoyed the film. Watching it at home the other night, I still enjoyed it but the audio was lacking in several areas. The way I heard it the explosions seemed to be lacking the initial burst or spark....it was a little muted. Like you midway thru the movie I checked the menu to make sure it was not switched to flat Dolby Digital or something. It was that noticeable in the audio mix. The Canto Bight scene with the horse race when they jumped thru the window there was no dynamics to that scene at all. You heard the glass break but it was very muted followed by some deep rumble. Like you I put in Rogue One afterwards to some battle scenes just to make sure everything was fine with my system. Forgetting I had the volume turned up quite a bit, I had to quickly turn it down. I reduced the volume back to -12 from the -2 I had it set when watching TLJ.
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I did a quick and dirty sweep session on my setup just before watching TLJ and felt like I got things pretty well dialed in, aiming at a previous target curve I had saved which I liked a lot. The bass was actually slightly more elevated than my previous EQ so I was expecting a pretty good ride once I hit play. I had purposefully not visited this thread this week to avoid any tainting of my viewing, so with that said:

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Appreciate the report. I was already meh on the film itself (watched it in the theater when it came out) so was just planning on a rental, but if the audio/video is disappointing as well I might just skip it all together.

On a positive note, took Justice League for a spin last night and thought it was great all around! Not the deepest bass, but hit hard and in all the right spots. Video was excellent as well. Liked the movie also. It was just a rental, but I'll be adding the UHD version to my collection at some point when I can find it cheap.
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Don't get me wrong the audio was amazing! I'm not trying to take that away because I was excited when those moments came too. It's just the dialog that I found very low. I read other reviews who feel the same also. So because I had my volume set a lil louder than usual, those loud moments were intense lol.

My receiver goes 0-100 on volume. I have to find a way to convert that into the volume measurement most of you use on here.
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It seems like we all think alike on here....lol. I saw TLJ in a Dolby Cinema theater and was not overly impressed with the presentation but still enjoyed the film. Watching it at home the other night, I still enjoyed it but the audio was lacking in several areas. The way I heard it the explosions seemed to be lacking the initial burst or spark....it was a little muted. Like you midway thru the movie I checked the menu to make sure it was not switched to flat Dolby Digital or something. It was that noticeable in the audio mix. The Canto Bight scene with the horse race when they jumped thru the window there was no dynamics to that scene at all. You heard the glass break but it was very muted followed by some deep rumble. Like you I put in Rogue One afterwards to some battle scenes just to make sure everything was fine with my system. Forgetting I had the volume turned up quite a bit, I had to quickly turn it down. I reduced the volume back to -12 from the -2 I had it set when watching TLJ.
totally different experience at the dolby theater I watched it in.....bass and sound was fantastic and had me all hyped up for the home release. you guys are giving me a buzzkill with these comments. I bought the 4k disc on Tuesady but haven't watched it yet.

some of you were talking about kate beckinsale and jessica biel....I have had a major case of jonesin' for Kate Beckinsale, Rhona Mitra, and Jessica Biel since they all started in their careers. I have especially had a thang for Jessica Biel...the abs, fitness body and sweeeet posterior skills. ain't nuthin more amazing in the universe than the beauty of woman.
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totally different experience at the dolby theater I watched it in.....bass and sound was fantastic and had me all hyped up for the home release. you guys are giving me a buzzkill with these comments. I bought the 4k disc on Tuesady but haven't watched it yet.

some of you were talking about kate beckinsale and jessica biel....I have had a major case of jonesin' for Kate Beckinsale, Rhona Mitra, and Jessica Biel since they all started in their careers. I have especially had a thang for Jessica Biel...the abs, fitness body and sweeeet posterior skills. ain't nuthin more amazing in the universe than the beauty of woman.
The sound is good but just not up to par when compared to Rogue One and TFA. I read the Atmos track is a little better than the DTS 7.1 HD track that is on the Blu-Ray. I do not have a 4K set up to play the Atmos track.

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Got to watch TLJ last night but didn't get to turn it up barley had the volume at -32 and my girlfriend came out and gave me the look that it was too loud. She does her homework right by the garage wall so that didn't help LOL. But it kept me entertained enough, and I will have to watch it with volume up with girlfriend or when shes not home.
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I have a few thoughts on SW:TLJ audio and video to a lesser extent.

There are several aspects of the audio discussion that are being conflated or potentially drawing a false correlation.

Such as a lower average volume track is perceived as indeed being less dynamic. If the track volume is extremely too low than yes that can prove to be the case but in respects to SW:TLJ it is not remotely that low to be a concern.

Conflating aggressive loudness as being dynamic is a common misconception. Assuming the average dynamic range has been reduced with aggressive, or overly so with, dynamic range compression then that is antithetical to being truly dynamic. As in, a respectable difference between the loud and quieter passages in the mix.

In regards to SW:TLJ, I have not ripped neither the Atmos or DTSMA track and run them through the amplitude statistics of Adobe Audition, just yet; doing so will provide some understanding of how dynamic the tracks truly are apart from the average volume level. Despite that I have indeed observed what others have already mentioned and I found it quite surprising comparatively speaking how low the average volume is, however unlike others after turning the track up to a level I find acceptable it sounded just fine.

Personally found it refreshing, the audio did not sound nearly as canned as a lot of dynamic range compressed tracks often do.

With that said I understand why some/many feel this track is lacking in lower octave emphasis with various on screen action that typically would likely have some more thump. Assuming the actual mix has not been tampered with apart from the average volume then it may all indeed be stylistic choice, which I find curious in light of how loud Looper is on Blu-ray. I to would have preferred a bit more bass reinforcement with various bits but the portions that do have bass I felt sounded clean, reasonably deep -but fleeting examples, and dynamic.

Frankly it is quite perplexing to why the average volume is as low as it is, I did not hear anything that would warrant having the mix lowered that much. In relative comparison to the typical DTSMA track levels in my situation I had this track turned up by about 10dbs higher. Yet I found it comfortable to listen to, even when it got louder. Perhaps that is due to less aggressive dynamic range compression, which again have to take a look at the waveform if that is the case or maybe it is all due to a gentler EQ for the top end. Dunno man.

I enjoy TFA track but it has been compressed a fair bit and certain portions really sound canned due to the compression and limiting used to increase the average volume. I wonder if the home mix has compression applied than the original mix may contain. When the TFA 4K release comes along with an Atmos track it will be interesting to see if like with Oblivion there is a disparity in the mixes. Again I have no idea just my observational ramblings.

Oh the video, again watched the Blu-ray and, WTF is up with those elevated black levels, specifically with the space content. I seem to vaguely recall that being the case in the theater but that could be my memory being skewed by watching the BR.
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I just switched out TLJ for Jumanji.
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I have a few thoughts on SW:TLJ audio and video to a lesser extent.

There are several aspects of the audio discussion that are being conflated or potentially drawing a false correlation.

Such as a lower average volume track is perceived as indeed being less dynamic. If the track volume is extremely too low than yes that can prove to be the case but in respects to SW:TLJ it is not remotely that low to be a concern.

Conflating aggressive loudness as being dynamic is a common misconception. Assuming the average dynamic range has been reduced with aggressive, or overly so with, dynamic range compression then that is antithetical to being truly dynamic. As in, a respectable difference between the loud and quieter passages in the mix.

In regards to SW:TLJ, I have not ripped neither the Atmos or DTSMA track and run them through the amplitude statistics of Adobe Audition, just yet; doing so will provide some understanding of how dynamic the tracks truly are apart from the average volume level. Despite that I have indeed observed what others have already mentioned and I found it quite surprising comparatively speaking how low the average volume is, however unlike others after turning the track up to a level I find acceptable it sounded just fine.

Personally found it refreshing, the audio did not sound nearly as canned as a lot of dynamic range compressed tracks often do.

With that said I understand why some/many feel this track is lacking in lower octave emphasis with various on screen action that typically would likely have some more thump. Assuming the actual mix has not been tampered with apart from the average volume then it may all indeed be stylistic choice, which I find curious in light of how loud Looper is on Blu-ray. I to would have preferred a bit more bass reinforcement with various bits but the portions that do have bass I felt sounded clean, reasonably deep -but fleeting examples, and dynamic.

Frankly it is quite perplexing to why the average volume is as low as it is, I did not hear anything that would warrant having the mix lowered that much. In relative comparison to the typical DTSMA track levels in my situation I had this track turned up by about 10dbs higher. Yet I found it comfortable to listen to, even when it got louder. Perhaps that is due to less aggressive dynamic range compression, which again have to take a look at the waveform if that is the case or maybe it is all due to a gentler EQ for the top end. Dunno man.

I enjoy TFA track but it has been compressed a fair bit and certain portions really sound canned due to the compression and limiting used to increase the average volume. I wonder if the home mix has compression applied than the original mix may contain. When the TFA 4K release comes along with an Atmos track it will be interesting to see if like with Oblivion there is a disparity in the mixes. Again I have no idea just my observational ramblings.

Oh the video, again watched the Blu-ray and, WTF is up with those elevated black levels, specifically with the space content. I seem to vaguely recall that being the case in the theater but that could be my memory being skewed by watching the BR.
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Just finished TLJ and the only real quibble (not tribble) were the slightly elevated blacks but it wasn't to the point of complete distraction and some scenes did benefit from it . The audio from the Atmos track was low but I'll keep reminding till it sinks in, that this is the way Disney does Atmos! It still sounded fantastic shook the room and hit hard when needed. Did go FA low ,no but the Atmos mix was really good especially with the Falcon. Go reference on the volume and all should be fine
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Just finished TLJ and the only real quibble (not tribble) were the slightly elevated blacks but it wasn't to the point of complete distraction and some scenes did benefit from it . The audio from the Atmos track was low but I'll keep reminding till it sinks in, that this is the way Disney does Atmos! It still sounded fantastic shook the room and hit hard when needed. Did go FA low ,no but the Atmos mix was really good especially with the Falcon. Go reference on the volume and all should be fine
I still haven't watched TLJ. Received it in the mail on Tuesday, but waiting until TV night with my nephew (every Friday) so we can both see it for the first time We're going to watch The Force Awakens first, then go straight into the new one.

I normally watch movies at -6 MV, I'll bump TLJ to Reference based on comments here, and grudgingly add a couple dB later if needed. I dislike pushing my system harder than Reference, but as long as there's none of that Nolan-esque clipping, I should be fine.

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The Titan (2018) Bass Graph



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5Hz, 15Hz, and 25Hz spikes, remind anyone of a particular sci-fi movie that covers a similar range? . Looks like this could be a worthy film with a 4-6dB bass boost. Not bad for Netflix
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Titan packed the ULF some nice moments for sure !

All movies should be unfiltered like this.
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