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post #7951 of 16388 Old 06-01-2018, 11:02 AM
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PioManiac, I tried to send you a PM. What are you using for gamma curves? I downloaded Arve last night and am starting to experiment.
I used AutoCal to upload Manni's DCE gamma curves for HDR,

Dolby Vision Cinema Emulation curves (peakY at 107nits for those who can target 95-115nits peak brightness) included in the Vertex JVC Macro pack (the Vertex is only necessary to switch between the curves automatically according to content, you can use the curves by themselves

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Was deciding if I should rent Hurricane Heist first but couldn't resist that Atmos track bass chart any longer and pre-ordered from Amazon. I'm easily entertained so hopefully it's not too painful to watch.
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Was deciding if I should rent Hurricane Heist first but couldn't resist that Atmos track bass chart any longer and pre-ordered from Amazon. I'm easily entertained so hopefully it's not too painful to watch.
I have watched Hurricane Heist twice already and I thought the story wasn't too bad. I enjoyed it, actually.

However... Supercon is a totally different animal! OH WOW!!! I feel like suing someone for the 20 min I lost on that turd!

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hurricane heist holy mother that FEELS like real sounds , i havent had something like this ... even the one with the war-blood-explosions is crap compared to this basstravaganza
my ears are a hurt from the continuous flopping
i had to take breaks...
Mr @chucky7 needs to watch this @ 0 MV for total destruction experience
imho ofcourse
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hurricane heist holy mother that FEELS like real sounds , i havent had something like this ... even the one with the war-blood-explosions is crap compared to this basstravaganza
my ears are a hurt from the continuous flopping
i had to take breaks...
Mr @chucky7 needs to watch this @ 0 MV for total destruction experience
imho ofcourse
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Thanks PioManiac. I am currently using a few of Javs curves, just getting into the Arve tool and starting to learn. Do not have a Vertex. I noticed an improvement in picture and am awful glad that cool cats like Javs and Manni01 have documented steps for improving the projection!
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Tonight I think I will enjoy a few barley pops and watch JP2 and maybe JP3?
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Those that have seen Hurricane Heist, what movie, bass wise, would you compare it to?
Def sounds like a fun one!
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Those that have seen Hurricane Heist, what movie, bass wise, would you compare it to?
Def sounds like a fun one!
I haven't seen it but...

Based on the PvA, probably War of the Worlds w/o the super hot extension down to 1Hz?


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Thanks PioManiac. I am currently using a few of Javs curves, just getting into the Arve tool and starting to learn. Do not have a Vertex. I noticed an improvement in picture and am awful glad that cool cats like Javs and Manni01 have documented steps for improving the projection!
Man, I want to get into this sooo bad but my PC illiteracy and fear of borking the PJ has me frozen in my tracks...
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Thanks PioManiac. I am currently using a few of Javs curves, just getting into the Arve tool and starting to learn. Do not have a Vertex. I noticed an improvement in picture and am awful glad that cool cats like Javs and Manni01 have documented steps for improving the projection!
Are you using JAVS v2 or v3 curves? I'm using his v2 curves and am happy, but curious about the v3.
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Was deciding if I should rent Hurricane Heist first but couldn't resist that Atmos track bass chart any longer and pre-ordered from Amazon. I'm easily entertained so hopefully it's not too painful to watch.
I wish you the best of luck, but for my money it might be the worst movie I've ever seen. Hopefully we have different tastes

But either way, the walls will be shaking, so at least there's that!
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Well based on the graph Red Sparrow seems to have lame ULF. Anyone here seen it?
Great movie, dark with some cringe worthy scenes. Looks beautiful on my OLED. Sound I found subdued and not much bass. I still enjoyed, not all movies need to shake me out of my seat.

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Anyone know if Armageddon will be getting a UHD 4K makeover??
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Great movie, dark with some cringe worthy scenes. Looks beautiful on my OLED. Sound I found subdued and not much bass. I still enjoyed, not all movies need to shake me out of my seat.
Joshua came over for a few hours this week, had a fun time demoing some things and discussing HT

He suggested this song to test my subs, and HOLY CRAP my house hasn't been this pressurized for this long in like...ever? I honestly think I started to get just slightly dizzy o.0



Question, would it be possible for someone to graph it?

And next, a statement.....I wanted to see if any of the headphones in my extensive collection would be decent at the ULF in this song. I found some losers, but also 2 winners!

Amp used was a Schiit Jotunheim. High Gain.

Fostex TH-X00 Purplehearts (with Lawton Tune-Up Kit and ZMF lambskin pads) did a great job up until 50% volume. To be clear, some people would give in and stop before this volume level. Starting at roughly 60% volume, they started to distort. These are my go-to bass-heavy headphones for most things when I want that sound signature.

Monoprice M1060 (Audeze vegan pads, and custom XLR cable) weren't quite as enjoyable as the Fostex, but where the Purplehearts gave up, the M1060's kept craving more power! I finally stopped at 75% volume, my ears giving out before the M1060's did. The snare drums were too sharp for my tastes at that time, but the bass was still clear and tight and giving me a neck massage

My Stax L700 + SRM-353X energizer......sadly, hardly a whisper of ULF I could feel a whisper, but that was it. The bass and midbass were satisfying enough though. I couldn't go much past 6/10 on the volume dial before they distorted. These are my go-to Neutral/Natural sounding headphone, and are just amazing for most things........but not for this.

Sennheiser HD6XX .......again, just a whisper of ULF. If you're into headphones, you likely already know if you like the Sennheiser house sound. But don't go looking for super ULF.

The winner in my collection depends on the listening volume you prefer. If you like a more "sensible" volume but still QUITE loud, I prefer the overall sound of the Purplehearts. If you after bleeding-ears volume and (IMO) therefor the most overall ULF, damn the torpedoes; then M1060 should fill the bill nicely if you have the power to push them beyond what the Fostex is capable of. And that's not a small thing.

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Man, I want to get into this sooo bad but my PC illiteracy and fear of borking the PJ has me frozen in my tracks...
If my dumbass can do it, should be a breeze for you.

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...there are a few scenes that will have you double checking that no kids or grandparents are in the room lol.

No kids I get. But grandparents? Don't you think that you and your kids very existence might mean that the grandparents already understand sex? I mean, if they were that offended by it, how would you be watching the movie in the first place?


Give the old ones a break. They've seen more and know more than most kids can imagine. LOL (with a wink).
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@Toe I think that I loaded version 2. Maybe run another custom user for version 3 today. You were right with the ip, boy was that frustrating! Thanks to @YumMasterYum , I am enjoying a few curves!
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+1 @beastaudio , as @Gorilla Killa said, I am a noob, but after a few hours, it was worth it. @Javs did a great job, and the guide is not too hard to follow, even for this AARP guy.
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@Toe I think that I loaded version 2. Maybe run another custom user for version 3 today. You were right with the ip, boy was that frustrating! Thanks to @YumMasterYum , I am enjoying a few curves!
Yeah, I had a hell of a time getting the projector to get an IP. I'm terrible with this stuff, lol (You can put me in the "if my dumb ass can do it anyone can" camp ). Finally had a friend tell me to just plug both the laptop and projector into a router and it finally worked. Glad you got it working! Did you set the bbo?

If you try out v3 curves I'm curious to hear what you think compared to v2 (shoot me a PM if you try them).
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No kids I get. But grandparents? Don't you think that you and your kids very existence might mean that the grandparents already understand sex? I mean, if they were that offended by it, how would you be watching the movie in the first place?


Give the old ones a break. They've seen more and know more than most kids can imagine. LOL (with a wink).
Considering i'm old enough to be a grandparent, i get your point.

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@Toe , got it. Will do both today and check then out. I watched JP2 last night, and there was some bass. So I will look into JP3 tonight.
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He suggested this song to test my subs, and HOLY CRAP my house hasn't been this pressurized for this long in like...ever? I honestly think I started to get just slightly dizzy o.0



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Graph it? I can't even see/hear it! "This video is not available"

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Graph it? I can't even see/hear it! "This video is not available"
It must be a UK thing. Maybe try with a VPN. I clicked on the link from your quote and it came right up.
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Just watched Game Night, amazing movie and the LFE was just amazing. loads of it.

Also a couple of days ago watched Message from the King, lots of LFE too. movie was okay though i would say 5/10.

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Just watched Game Night, amazing movie and the LFE was just amazing. loads of it.
Sweet. I picked that up with Maze Runner TDC earlier tonight. Only 11 minutes into MRTDC / opening credits but it’s promising so far. The airship had some midbass that was super loud.

Passed on TLJ since it will be on Netflix anyway this month.

Hurricane Heist will be at Redbox in a few days. Probably pick up Red Sparrow & Annihilation with it despite lack of Uber bass.

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Well I had a fun triple feature day today. Watched Jurassic Park 3, and Jurassic World, then Avatar. The Jurassic Parks of course looked good and sounded good with the 4K discs and every dinosaur stop was fun. I hadn't watched Avatar since 2015 when I got my 55" 4K LCD and not with a surround setup since 2010. Don't know what took me so long with my new setup, but it does have some really fun bass and my receiver did a great job of upmixing the DTS sound. What really surprised me though is how good my almost 10 year old Blu-Ray looked as good and in some cases better than my 4K discs on my 65" OLED. Mind you my eyes are only 6' away, so I catch flaws.
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Giving this a whirl now. Can't wait for cheesy Hurricane Heist bass fest on Tuesday too!

Edit: meh...made it halfway through. Didn't care for it
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Forgive my ignorance on this subject since I'm not 4K Atmos/DTS:X enabled as of yet. I've read in some of the reviews on 4K releases that have an Atmos track also contain a TrueHD core. Is it the same scenario on the DTS:X tracks? Do they contain a DTS-HD core?



If so then I was wondering if anyone has done an analysis of a DTS:X track and the DTS-HD core, that may or may not, be included on the disc? Probably the same but I was just asking...

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Forgive my ignorance on this subject since I'm not 4K Atmos/DTS:X enabled as of yet. I've read in some of the reviews on 4K releases that have an Atmos track also contain a TrueHD core. Is it the same scenario on the DTS:X tracks? Do they contain a DTS-HD core?



If so then I was wondering if anyone has done an analysis of a DTS:X track and the DTS-HD core, that may or may not, be included on the disc? Probably the same but I was just asking...


LFE would be the same. You just don’t get the object metadata.

All disc Atmos tracks are Dolby True HD based. Streaming Atmos is usually Dolby Digital Plus based. All DTS:X are DTS-HD based.

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