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I apologize in advance as i was just going to list a few of my favorite (bass) movies (on my system), but having a couple beverages,,,,, so there's more . Every set up is different so opinions may vary. Several have extension into single digits.

- Batman vs Superman
- Hulk
- 1st Star Trek, (single digit extension to 8Hz)
- Expendables 3
- Magnificent 7
- Wonder Woman
- Battle LA (single digit extension)
- Deep water Horizon
- Midnight Special
- Don't Breath (6Hz)
- Logan
- Olympus Has fallen
- HellBoy2 (6Hz)
- Hacksaw Ridge
- War Horse (love that show) (8Hz)
- Life
- San Andreas

I have so many more i want to list but i will be banned, or stoned by you guys. On my set up these movies really stand out, even the 30Hz monster San Andreas which i find ridiculously dynamic.

Just going by impaired memory so know i've missed other single digit movies on my list.
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I apologize in advance as i was just going to list a few of my favorite (bass) movies (on my system), but having a couple beverages,,,,, so there's more . Every set up is different so opinions may vary. Several have extension into single digits.

- Batman vs Superman
- Hulk
- 1st Star Trek, (single digit extension to 8Hz)
- Expendables 3
- Magnificent 7
- Wonder Woman
- Battle LA (single digit extension)
- Deep water Horizon
- Midnight Special
- Don't Breath (6Hz)
- Logan
- Olympus Has fallen
- HellBoy2 (6Hz)
- Hacksaw Ridge
- War Horse (love that show) (8Hz)
- Life
- San Andreas

I have so many more i want to list but i will be banned, or stoned by you guys. On my set up these movies really stand out, even the 30Hz monster San Andreas which i find ridiculously dynamic.

Just going by impaired memory so know i've missed other single digit movies on my list.
That's a nice list!
I've been meaning to start a thread asking for people to list their all time favourite "movies with bass". By that I mean movies you can't help but watch start to finish and are on your "frequent rewatch" list, as opposed to movies that have a great bass scene or two - but the movie itself is pretty average. For example Pulse has a great bass scene but IMHO the movie sucked. War of the Worlds has some of the best bass ever put on film, but it's not a movie I can watch more than once every few years.
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Watching Hurricane Heist now. About 25 minutes in and it's definitely pretty cheesy.
Bass is nice so far. Some great rumbles and couple low hits. Overhead and surrounds are very active, as they should be considering a damn hurricane is going on.
Will add to post at end of movie if I encounter any really good bass moments

Some nice bass towards the end. Not on MMFR, BR2049, Pacific Rim etc level but not shabby. It was shaking the place for sure though.

Horrible movie though lol
This one is a rare bird got it on Netflix today, it has full bandwidth center channel signal. Gives the center subs some work. Im running it at significantly less than full output, that will have to wait for the weekend when the upstairs is unoccupied.
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That's a nice list!
I've been meaning to start a thread asking for people to list their all time favourite "movies with bass". By that I mean movies you can't help but watch start to finish and are on your "frequent rewatch" list, as opposed to movies that have a great bass scene or two - but the movie itself is pretty average. For example Pulse has a great bass scene but IMHO the movie sucked. War of the Worlds has some of the best bass ever put on film, but it's not a movie I can watch more than once every few years.
I think Wonder Woman is my go to reference, just incredibly crafted bass, scattered throughout, building up to the tremendous finale. That and Star Wars The Force Awakens.
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That's a nice list!
I've been meaning to start a thread asking for people to list their all time favourite "movies with bass". By that I mean movies you can't help but watch start to finish and are on your "frequent rewatch" list, as opposed to movies that have a great bass scene or two - but the movie itself is pretty average. For example Pulse has a great bass scene but IMHO the movie sucked. War of the Worlds has some of the best bass ever put on film, but it's not a movie I can watch more than once every few years.
Great point. Every one of those i listed (for me) are re watchable many times over. Battle LA is a bit of a stretch.

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I know this is probably a huge deviation from the main topic of this thread, but I just got Beverly Hills Cop: 3 Movie Collection on Blu-ray delivered today! I absolutely LOVE these films as I've seen them all multiple times in the theaters. So I was confused and upset as to why there was no US release of this complete set on Blu-ray, being that it was initially released here.

The only version available for purchase is from the UK, though I did purchase it from an Amazon seller stateside. You can actually get this from Amazon.co.uk $3 cheaper than I paid for it here at $13.12 shipped! Of course, there is considerable grain and other anomalies native to the film stock used here, but you will not get a better, clearer presentation of this film anywhere at this point. It's also Region Free!


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I know this is probably a huge deviation from the main topic of this thread, but I just got Beverly Hills Cop: 3 Movie Collection on Blu-ray delivered today! I absolutely LOVE these films as I've seen them all multiple times in the theaters. So I was confused and upset as to why there was no US release of this complete set on Blu-ray, being that it was initially released here.

The only version available for purchase is from the UK, though I did purchase it from an Amazon seller stateside. You can actually get this from Amazon.co.uk $3 cheaper than I paid for it here at $13.12 shipped! Of course, there is considerable grain and other anomalies native to the film stock used here, but you will not get a better, clearer presentation of this film anywhere at this point.

But will it play on your br player? My dumb ass had to send Apocalypto back and re order bc I got the region b by mistake.
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I apologize in advance as i was just going to list a few of my favorite (bass) movies (on my system), but having a couple beverages,,,,, so there's more . Every set up is different so opinions may vary. Several have extension into single digits.



- Batman vs Superman

- Hulk

- 1st Star Trek, (single digit extension to 8Hz)

- Expendables 3

- Magnificent 7

- Wonder Woman

- Battle LA (single digit extension)

- Deep water Horizon

- Midnight Special

- Don't Breath (6Hz)

- Logan

- Olympus Has fallen

- HellBoy2 (6Hz)

- Hacksaw Ridge

- War Horse (love that show) (8Hz)

- Life

- San Andreas



I have so many more i want to list but i will be banned, or stoned by you guys. On my set up these movies really stand out, even the 30Hz monster San Andreas which i find ridiculously dynamic.



Just going by impaired memory so know i've missed other single digit movies on my list.


Lone Survivor has some really hard hitting bass


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I apologize in advance as i was just going to list a few of my favorite (bass) movies (on my system), but having a couple beverages,,,,, so there's more . Every set up is different so opinions may vary. Several have extension into single digits.

.......
I have so many more i want to list but i will be banned, or stoned by you guys. On my set up these movies really stand out, even the 30Hz monster San Andreas which i find ridiculously dynamic.

Just going by impaired memory so know i've missed other single digit movies on my list.
Just for fun, I bolded the titles I currently own, and bolded and italicized the titles I have but haven't watched. I'm still in the process of building my HT, but even in my modest HTiB, all of those movies really shine. I can't wait to rewatch them in my future setup. Most of these movies I got from this thread.

- Batman vs Superman
- Hulk

- 1st Star Trek, (single digit extension to 8Hz)
- Expendables 3
- Magnificent 7
- Wonder Woman (watched in cinema, demolishing bass)
- Battle LA (single digit extension)
- Deep water Horizon
- Midnight Special
- Don't Breath (6Hz) (watched in cinema, but can't remember the bass)
- Logan
- Olympus Has fallen
- HellBoy2 (6Hz)
- Hacksaw Ridge
- War Horse (love that show) (8Hz)
- Life
- San Andreas
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But will it play on your br player? My dumb ass had to send Apocalypto back and re order bc I got the region b by mistake.
Yes, I appended the post to say it was Region Free! I'm playing it now in my Blu-ray player, but I do have Noise Reduction on Medium... something I NEVER usually do!

I have tons of different region Blu-rays, because I can just make them Region Free with AnyDVD HD!
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I think Wonder Woman is my go to reference, just incredibly crafted bass, scattered throughout, building up to the tremendous finale. That and Star Wars The Force Awakens.
Agreed on both of those.
Lots of bass, great all-round audio mix plus both are fantastic movies and very re-watchable
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Great point. Every one of those i listed (for me) are re watchable many times over. Battle LA is a bit of a stretch.
For me it would be

Edge of Tomorrow
Oblivion
John Wick
Jack Reacher
The Equalizer
The Accountant
Mission Impossible Rogue Nation
Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol
13 Hours
Star Trek
Mad Max:Fury Road
The Avengers
Captain America :The Winter Soldier
The Incredible Hulk
Interstellar
Olympus Has Fallen

I could (and do! ) watch all of these several times per year and not get sick of them.
Sometimes the mrs walks into the room amd says "this again?.... You only watched it a few weeks ago"


Edit*forgot Olympus has Fallen!!
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^^^^^^^^

I dig your list. Many of those are favorites of mine too. Nice to see somene love for The Accountant and The Equalizer!

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These are not my favorite bass scenes but they are short, sound amazing and with lots of bass. I seem to throw these in all the time when I don’t have enough time.
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Ooooh I’ll play, I love this kind of stuff

I could list so many and go into extreme detail as to why on each one but will try to keep the list short and my most visited over the last couple of months and currently. I’ve made a lot of changes with my system lately with changing rooms and all, plus the latest Atmos upgrade (and more to come), and these seem to be my “Go To’s” that I play all the time. I’m so familiar with them that any changes that I make, it’s easy to notice. Plus, they are just really fun bass tracks IMO that I never tire of, with most of them being pretty good movies too.

So the Atmos tracks first, since most are included on the standard blu ray discs that I own (now that I have Atmos ) ...

-Batman vs Superman
-Justice League
-Transformers: The Last Knight
-Mad Max Fury Road
-Blade Runner 2049
-Guardians of the Galaxy 2 (have to have the 4K disc for this one)

And for the non Atmos that I have and use all the time as well ...

-Underworld Awakening (like MKtheater above)
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-Tron Legacy
-Avengers: Age of Ultron (MV needs about 10db louder than norm)
-Avengers
-Pacific Rim
-Star Wars: TFA

I’ll stop there, but many more

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Just got Fury on 4K today. You guys weren't kidding, it's awesome - both in picure quality and sound. Bass is nuts of course. I rented the blu ray when it came out and hadn't seen it since but I can tell the 4K is quite the upgrade - same for the Atmos.

Just watched The Accountant a couple of nights ago. Even when I know the 50 cal is coming it still scares the sh out of me. LOVE the part when he kills the guy and then akwardly waves good bye to his grateful clients sitting in the truck as he walks away. Perfect - makes me laugh every time.

As far as a bassy movie that I can watch and not get sick of - Hot Fuzz. I don't watch it for the sound though, my wife and I just love the movie. Never gets old. So many great lines and references to earlier parts in the movie... and the over the top gory action and exaggerated on purpose (sometimes boomy but who cares) bass gets me every time.
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^^^ Cool, can’t wait to check out Fury!!
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The Incredibles (2014) UHD

Both from UHD disc: Dolby Atmos VS DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 ES Matrix



Via http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-In...201205/#Review

The Incredibles earns a Dolby Atmos soundtrack for its UHD debut, and it's more than a little underwhelming. First, it's not as pronounced and intense as one might expect. Disney's muting remains an issue, though perhaps not quite so much as in previous releases, though it still requires a bit of upward volume knob adjustment to find a good listening level. Bass is never quite as intense as one might expect from a movie of this nature. A blasting rocket in chapter 21, for example, offers a tangible bass line, but it's nowhere near as potent as it should be, and comparing the scene with the included DTS-HD MA track, and the Atmos' lessened intensity becomes even more obvious. Overheads don't engage with any substantial, distinct elements, either. Take a scene in chapter six when part of a building collapses under the stress of an intensely burning fire. While the surrounds pick up some details, there's no top-end sensation to really drive the moment home. There are some good moments in the track, such whirling blades chasing Dash through the jungle in chapter 23 with some enjoyable stage zip, but the DTS track is again the winner for sheer elemental intensity, which includes a large explosion partway through the chase. The track does present various atmospherics well, musical clarity and spacing are fine, and dialogue is always intelligible and well prioritized, but there's just not much life, verve, or depth to the track. It's a disappointment; choose the DTS track instead.
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^^^^^^^^

I dig your list. Many of those are favorites of mine too. Nice to see somene love for The Accountant and The Equalizer!
I've seriously lost count of the amount of times I've watched those 2 movies!!
I don't go out to see movies very often these days, but will definitely be seeing The Equalizer 2 at the cinema when released
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Thanks for the bass graphs, MrGrey. Always interesting to see.

I haven't picked up The Incredibles UHD yet, but here are some of my normal stuff for the original blu-ray DTSMA 5.1. When I do eventually pick it up I'll do the same. From what has been discussed it appears that perhaps someone has potentially corrected some of the mixing (mastering) errors that are baked into the DTSMA track; specifically the clipping which could be due in part of a combination of peak normalization or just increased gain.

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.ph...&postcount=727
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@MrGrey - Thanks for posting. Even between the included DTS-MA track there's a difference. Now imagine the original BD track. Bet you it bests both of those in dynamics and LFE.

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Thanks for the bass graphs, MrGrey. Always interesting to see.

I haven't picked up The Incredibles UHD yet, but here are some of my normal stuff for the original blu-ray DTSMA 5.1. When I do eventually pick it up I'll do the same. From what has been discussed it appears that perhaps someone has potentially corrected some of the mixing (mastering) errors that are baked into the DTSMA track; specifically the clipping which could be due in part of a combination of peak normalization or just increased gain.

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.ph...&postcount=727
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Is this why Disney has been lowering the volume on their releases? To correct clipping?

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Is this why Disney has been lowering the volume on their releases? To correct clipping?
Possibly, but the problem is just turning up the volume doesn't fix the mix, they've been gimping the dynamic range too, in theory to appease those idiots with soundbars (ie most people)
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Guess I'll just get the original blu ray for The Incredibles..

Here's my list of favorite bass movies that I never tire of watching

Blade Runner 2049

Mad Max Fury Road

Cloverfield

Drive

9

Monster House

Power Rangers

Lego Ninjago

Hot Fuzz

Tron Legacy

Oblivion

Godzilla

Alien vs Predator

Earth to Echo

Hellboy 2

Batman vs Superman

Den of Thieves

War Horse

Terminator Salvation

Life

Interstellar

Prometheus

John Wick 2

Incredible Hulk

Jupiter Ascending

It

Dredd

There's so many more but that's my usual go to's.
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Is this why Disney has been lowering the volume on their releases? To correct clipping?
There has been nothing substantive to indicate to why various recent Disney releases have included mixes that are lower in volume than many have become accustomed to. Several theories attempt to address it but the most popular ones seem dubious.

In the case of The Incredibles, I am just speculating that with the new mix that the parties involved seem to have corrected the peaking and clipping. If the Atmos mix is closer to the original mix that is solely my speculation and may have nothing to do with reality.

Perhaps there has been a mandate to improve mastering quality by avoiding cooking the mixes with excessive compression, aggressive peak normalization/limiting, and permitting hard clipping. This does not necessarily explain "neutered" bass or "dynamics" which is actually separate from following reasonable mixing practices.

I have begun to wonder if some, or potentially many, home mixes have instead of simply adjusting the levels of say the surrounds that instead the home mixes have been cooked and in some cases deviate greatly from the original mix.

There are a few titles that I have looked into that might lend credence to my theory, with at least some releases, and one title in particular I have done some experiments on seems to potentially affirm this view. The Atmos mix was specially supervised by the director and the UHD includes that mix but the alternative mix is much hotter than the original mix. By cooking the levels with compression and peak normalization of the Atmos mix I have reproduced something similar to the alternative mix.

Hopefully soon I will have some hard data for most of the Jurassic Park mixes that are floating around which should prove interesting and pertinent.

With a few instances in the contested Disney titles I would prefer just a smidge more bass emphasis overall, I do enjoy actually having true dynamic tracks instead of cooked 12dbs or less Loudness Wars mixes. ymmv.
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Guess I'll just get the original blu ray for The Incredibles..

Here's my list of favorite bass movies that I never tire of watching

Blade Runner 2049

Mad Max Fury Road

Cloverfield

Drive

9

Monster House

Power Rangers

Lego Ninjago

Hot Fuzz

Tron Legacy

Oblivion

Godzilla

Alien vs Predator

Earth to Echo

Hellboy 2

Batman vs Superman

Den of Thieves

War Horse

Terminator Salvation

Life

Interstellar

Prometheus

John Wick 2

Incredible Hulk

Jupiter Ascending

It

There's so many more but that's my usual go to's.
Great list. Also War of the Worlds and Pulse servo scene.

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