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I must agree with your viewpoint on Villenueve. He put out Sicario, Arrival, and Blade Runner 2049...back to back to back. Talk about home run hitter

Sicario was an in-your face, gritty, action/crime drama with fantastic character development...Arrival and BR 2049 were sci-fi audio/visual feasts with excellent artistic depth in camera work, character direction, and with ultimately great story-lines. Both just beautiful explorations of consciousness, life struggles, and transcendence (themes that can be found in Sicario as well). Great film making indeed (BR 2049 is my favorite of this trio and one of my favorite movies of all time).
Also he has Dune coming up and i just freak out in joy knowing he is the one directing

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Isle of Dogs (2018) Bass Graph

I love this movie so much!
Bring the whole family together for this one!



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With a 12”, (2) 15”, and (2) 18” subs running way hotter than that... I was walking a thin line of my subs being able to reproduce all of the sub 20hz content. It’s the first time I could ever actually smell my subs as the credits rolled.

It's OK to think that. Sadly, I'm hardly a rookie any more. I wish...


Really I don't play films as loudly as a lot of people. I started A Quiet Place at -15 MV, but had to back off because it was just too loud in the room. My wife was at her computer in her office on the floor above the HT, and said it was the loudest most rumbly thing she had ever heard me play, making her feet buzz and giving her some window shake. I think the LVX12s were doing their jobs.


Would they keep up at a MV of 0? No, but then I wouldn't be in the room with the MV at 0 either. Last thing I want is 20Hz at +130 dB. Not going there. Sorry.


And I want to stress that I'm not saying that 20Hz at +130 dB is bad. I'm not, if that's what you want then have at it. I'm just saying that's not where I'm at.
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It's OK to think that. Sadly, I'm hardly a rookie any more. I wish...


Really I don't play films as loudly as a lot of people. I started A Quiet Place at -15 MV, but had to back off because it was just too loud in the room. My wife was at her computer in her office on the floor above the HT, and said it was the loudest most rumbly thing she had ever heard me play, making her feet buzz and giving her some window shake. I think the LVX12s were doing their jobs.


Would they keep up at a MV of 0? No, but then I wouldn't be in the room with the MV at 0 either. Last thing I want is 20Hz at +130 dB. Not going there. Sorry.


And I want to stress that I'm not saying that 20Hz at +130 dB is bad. I'm not, if that's what you want then have at it. I'm just saying that's not where I'm at.
It’s not about 20hz at 130dB. It’s the content below 20hz. A Quiet Place is worth watching with some powerful subs or a set of crowsons if you get the chance. Kind of like if I said the “f Irene” scene in Black Hawk Down is meh in the bass dept. Well, no kidding. I don’t have the right equipment to experience single digit bass like that.

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Isle of Dogs (2018) Bass Graph

I love this movie so much!
Bring the whole family together for this one!





Isle of Dogs is one of the most underrated movies of the last few years. I've been able to convince only a few people to see it. Even my dog owning brother won't see it (but to be fair, we don't have the same tastes in music, art, or movies. Heck, I can't even get the boy to buy a sub even though he likes the sound of mine). Sigh... It's only July, but I'm sure Isle of Dogs going to be in my top five for 2018. Wes Anderson at his quirky best.
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It’s not about 20hz at 130dB. It’s the content below 20hz. A Quiet Place is worth watching with some powerful subs or a set of crowsons if you get the chance. Kind of like if I said the “f Irene” scene in Black Hawk Down is meh in the bass dept. Well, no kidding. I don’t have the right equipment to experience single digit bass like that.

I get where you're coming from. But I also get the curve of diminishing returns. And my space that can't take subs that are physically bigger than what I have. And my budget. And my WAF.



Still, this is a bit off topic of what I was trying to say. That is, that the bass hits in this movie are deeper but shorter (a deep whomp), compared to the less deep but longer (rumble) in other movies this group likes. That's all.


It still creeped me out just fine, and isn't that the real point of the sub-sonics? To walk on your vestibular system and induce that feeling of unease and disorientation? And that I got just fine with this movie. Even if I didn't loosen any fillings.
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You need more subs! What was the MV at?

My space is 2420 cu ft and the sub I have is equivalent to more than 4 of the Hsu VTF-3 MK5. I am not saying that you need this much to fully enjoy it. I think 2 Hsu VTF-3 MK5 would be much more satisfying.
-20 haha. I already have bad enough tinnitus from flying helicopters in the Army I don't need to make it worse. And to be honest, I don't know how people here listen at reference. -20 in my MLP is pretty loud for most content already. Plus, I have found if I go much louder than that then it makes dialogue scenes sound like they are yelling and thats no good either. With the dynamics I'm getting out of my Onkyo dialogue sounds like conversation and then the dynamic bits still shake the walls. I just want a second sub to even the bass response and make it so I can hit the really deep stuff without chuffing.

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I also still get netflix discs, we must be the last hold outs. I wish Redbox or Netflix would go 4K. I know Redbox is testing in select markets so hopefully in 6 more months it will roll out nation wide. But since Netflix is not as concerned about hollywood movie i see no need to switch to the streaming service.
I do both the streaming and the discs because the content between the 2 is different (my wife orders a lot of discs of stuff you can't stream). And sometimes make trips to Redbox if I'm in a hurry to watch something or have a discount code.
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I love this movie so much!
Bring the whole family together for this one!



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https://youtu.be/dt__kig8PVU


Completely agree. I watched this with my youngest yesterday and we loved it. Near constant laughs and such a great time.
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Got the blu-ray for A Quiet Place from Netflix yesterday. Just got done watching it. I'm not as impressed with it as most of you guys.




So I don't get all the hoopla about A Quiet Place on this thread. Clearly it must just be me. Sigh...
I think a constant barrage of massive bass hits would have felt really out of place in a movie like "A Quiet Place" - it's not a balls-out action movie after all, more a tense sci-fi/thriller/drama, so in that regard, and of course IMHO, I think the bass was used appropriately and near perfectly to help create tension and atmosphere.
It's all about contrast with this one, going from 10-15 minutes of near silence with people only communicating via sign language, to a LOUD well placed bass hit had me looking over my shoulder a few times, I also kept checking the MV because it "felt" much louder than it was
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Watched Quiet Place because the Joe Bob marathon on the Shudder Horror app crashed lol! So I gave this movie the beans more than I first watched it and Damn! Appropriate, hard bass that made this film tense! Disney take note please!


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I already watched Quiet Place in the theatre and while the movie was great the sound was terrible. I am hearing great things about it from you guys? Do you guys think it'll be a fun ride on my svsb pb-12 nsd?

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I also still get netflix discs, we must be the last hold outs. I wish Redbox or Netflix would go 4K. I know Redbox is testing in select markets so hopefully in 6 more months it will roll out nation wide. But since Netflix is not as concerned about hollywood movie i see no need to switch to the streaming service.
??, I don’t understand? Netflix has 4K. Dolby Vision and HDR.
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??, I don’t understand? Netflix has 4K. Dolby Vision and HDR.
I believe he is talking about the physical copies and not the streaming. Sounds like they dont rent out 4k discs...

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??, I don’t understand? Netflix has 4K. Dolby Vision and HDR.
There is still little 4k content on Netflix. Currently my TV is only 1080 anyways and the rest of the Netflix sound is streamed in DD whereas the Blu Rays are DTSHDMA/Atmos etc. Not all the content is the same. A Quiet Place int streaming but its available on disc. Plus my wife likes old movies that Netflix doesn't stream so you can only get them on disc. So lots of reasons for the $10 a month for discs.

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There is still little 4k content on Netflix. Currently my TV is only 1080 anyways and the rest of the Netflix sound is streamed in DD whereas the Blu Rays are DTSHDMA/Atmos etc. Not all the content is the same. A Quiet Place int streaming but its available on disc. Plus my wife likes old movies that Netflix doesn't stream so you can only get them on disc. So lots of reasons for the $10 a month for discs.
So what you are saying is that it does not have lossless audio. Netflix has Atmos but is the DD+ version.
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After Percy Jackson "The Lightning Thief" last weekend (Yes still hard hitting 5 star bass) I watched the superbly done 4 star" Clash of the Titans" and released the Kraken on the room and wow! I plan on the 5 star follow up of "Wrath of the Titans" to hear or not hear the deep groans of Kronos but I must say I've really been enjoying going back and watching the heavy hitting now classics. Up this weekend I've got the 4K versions of" A Quite Place " and "Fury" on tap
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The Atmos mix is really good. I heard sound flying over my head even with my non-Atmos 7.1 set up. The bass was outstanding even at -15MV. My subs are 8db hot with Dyneq on though. It’s hard to say how your pb12 will perform without knowing your room size and your listening level. Regardless, it should be a really good bass experience with your pb12.
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So what you are saying is that it does not have lossless audio. Netflix has Atmos but is the DD+ version.
Correct. Most of the Netflix streaming audio is compressed so any big ticket movies I use their disc service for so I get the best sound.
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Correct. Most of the Netflix streaming audio is compressed so any big ticket movies I use their disc service for so I get the best sound.
You're not alone. I've been using Netflix Disc Service since 2009!
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Same. And we have no intention of getting rid of it any time soon. Although its interesting how often I get the comment from other people, "Netflix still does discs?" and then they look at me weird lol.
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So I love 13 Hours Secret Soldier of Benghazi. Such a phenomenal movie for a lot of reasons including story, picture, sound, etc. Well I finally just got around to watching it again now that I have upgraded my receiver and my subwoofer.

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Like SuperFist, I'm a proud Netflix Disc subscriber myself!


Just watched A Quiet Place, which is usually not my kind of movie, but I wanted to watch for the audio. I was not disappointed. Excellent sound and a pretty decent movie.
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My subs must not quite dig low enough, or i need to turn the sound up more. I listed -7 dbfs and felt a little something, but nothing like others are saying.

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I have the MIB trilogy in 4k and watched the 1 st one a month or so ago and just watched the second today. I had the DVDs but has been a while since watching these. These look great in 4K, Atmos is awesome, and the LFE is incredible!. As far as LFE goes I enjoyed MIBII far more than I did A Quiet Place

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I have the MIB trilogy in 4k and watched the 1 st one a month or so ago and just watched the second today. I had the DVDs but has been a while since watching these. These look great in 4K, Atmos is awesome, and the LFE is incredible!. As far as LFE goes I enjoyed MIBII far more than I did A Quiet Place
Yeah the MIB 4K transfers plus HDR looked awesome on my OLED. I can’t remember so much what the bass was like but I think it was pretty good.

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I have the MIB trilogy in 4k and watched the 1 st one a month or so ago and just watched the second today. I had the DVDs but has been a while since watching these. These look great in 4K, Atmos is awesome, and the LFE is incredible!. As far as LFE goes I enjoyed MIBII far more than I did A Quiet Place
I was a big fan of the MIB series on bluray,
but the 4K/HDR video upgrade was nothing short of Stunning on the OLED.
...and Yes the ATMOS was excellent!

I've been very impressed with some of the older titles
that have been remastered/re-released in 4K/UHD/HDR/DV/ATMOS/DTS:X recently:

The Mummy Trilogy
Men In Black Trilogy
The Incredible Hulk
The Matrix
Fury
Gladiator
Saving Private Ryan
Braveheart

I also added 5 Chris Nolan titles (for HDR Video only)
TDK Trilogy, Interstellar and Dunkirk.

I'm holding out on recent Disney/Pixar/Lucas/Marvel ...and soon to be Fox 4K titles for now
Not sure I want to support the direction they are going (sound-bar mix friendly).

Sure, I can make adjustments (House Curve/minidsp/All DSP software) to accommodate a weaker mix,
..but like many here, I feel compelled to send a message for some reason.

Like mentioned recently in this thread from other members,
I have a plethora of older Full Range titles at my disposal when I need a REAL LFE/ULF Fix.

Some people catalogue their collection in alphabetical or chronological order,

I have a several shelves dedicated to LFE/ULF favorites going all the way back to 2006
...then several other shelves just for 4K's/3D's/Animation/Concerts. Rough estimate...800 titles total
(~150 are new 4K/UHD's)

It may take me the rest of my days on this planet just to re-watch most of my favorites at least once more
So new garbage and regurgitated Marvel superhero flix in 4K can kiss my arse!

Like MrGrey mentioned, A Quiet Place gave of us Original content,
Well acted/directed and executed with reference video and audio.

I pre-screen most of my new movies on my OLED first (on new release day)
...and on the weekends re-run them at 120" on the projector for family/friends.

I never rent or digi download, but have viewed some Netflix exclusives through my XBO X


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I was a big fan of the MIB series on bluray,

but the 4K/HDR video upgrade was nothing short of Stunning on the OLED.

...and Yes the ATMOS was excellent!



I've been very impressed with some of the older titles

that have been remastered/re-released in 4K/UHD/HDR/DV/ATMOS/DTS:X recently:



The Mummy Trilogy

Men In Black Trilogy

The Incredible Hulk

The Matrix

Fury

Gladiator

Saving Private Ryan

Braveheart



I also added 5 Chris Nolan titles (for HDR Video only)

TDK Trilogy, Interstellar and Dunkirk.



I'm holding out on recent Disney/Pixar/Lucas/Marvel ...and soon to be Fox 4K titles for now

Not sure I want to support the direction they are going (sound-bar mix friendly).



Sure, I can make adjustments (House Curve/minidsp/All DSP software) to accommodate a weaker mix,

..but like many here, I feel compelled to send a message for some reason.



Like mentioned recently in this thread from other members,

I have a plethora of older Full Range titles at my disposal when I need a REAL LFE/ULF Fix.



Some people catalogue their collection in alphabetical or chronological order,



I have a several shelves dedicated to LFE/ULF favorites going all the way back to 2006

...then several other shelves just for 4K's/3D's/Animation/Concerts. Rough estimate...800 titles total

(~150 are new 4K/UHD's)



It may take me the rest of my days on this planet just to re-watch most of my favorites at least once more

So new garbage and regurgitated Marvel superhero flix in 4K can kiss my arse!



Like MrGrey mentioned, A Quiet Place gave of us Original content,

Well acted/directed and executed with reference video and audio.



I pre-screen most of my new movies on my OLED first (on new release day)

...and on the weekends re-run them at 120" on the projector for family/friends.



I never rent or digi download, but have viewed some Netflix exclusives through my XBO X





I completely agree. I truly wonder if Disney corporates direction is to cater to mobile and flat panel tv 1.5” diameter speakers? That way they can save money on time spent getting the low frequency so that is sounds awesome. I am racking my brain trying to understand Disney’s strategy on this.

I am going to ask the AVS writers if they can get a Disney sound mix / product manager to do a podcast interview and ask about this.


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So I love 13 Hours Secret Soldier of Benghazi. Such a phenomenal movie for a lot of reasons including story, picture, sound, etc. Well I finally just got around to watching it again now that I have upgraded my receiver and my subwoofer.

Spoiler!

^^^^THIS!!! X Eleventy Billion!!!

One of my personal All Time Favorites!!!

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Was watching Hans Zimmer: Live in Prague in Dolby Atmos (Blu-Ray) earlier, experimenting with my subs 3dB hot - good lord that Electro Suite is absurd.

It's the only thing I've watched so far that makes my sub amps' fans kick into high gear
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