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Pio,,,, with all your format mods and heavy bass consistency, have you ever noticed the dust caps on your Funks ever getting warm? My JTR S-1's would heat up pretty could under load,,,, but my 21.0LX Funks have never in a years use been anything but cool to the touch no matter how demanding of music or movie scene, even running my tone generator for several minutes they would still be cold. Would be interesting to hear your thoughts. Even comparing them to your Velodynes.

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...and my 4800/9600w peak 24.0 Funk hasn't even arrived yet

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My room is aleady over powered at 13,600 watts of LFE/ULF peak sub power (2000 ^3ft space),
So none of my gear even gets warm at reference levels for hours on end.

...and my 4800/9600w peak 24.0 Funk hasn't even arrived yet
And yet your adding a 24" Funk lol. Your an animal!!!! Maybe you were a bad example to ask my question with all that firepower. It's just weird in my larger open room to have never once felt anything but a cool dust cap. Just like right now i will play to 0 MV with some bass heaver pop tunes and the drivers are getting a workout.

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The Top Gun DTS-HD track has more bass than the TrueHD one. Weird as aren't they suppose to be lossless replica of the original master?

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I did an auto search for 4K but didn't do a search for UHD.
I have over 200 titles on 4K/UHD and there's only 3 or 4 titles that the DTS-HD MA version is superior to the ATMOS audio.

Oblivion and Pirates of the Caribbean DMTNT are the only two I recall from recent memory.

For POTC, it's a non issue for me because my preference is for the 3D UK import
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[quote=mantaraydesign;56946016]Anyone notice the bass is much more powerful while watching a DTS-HD Master Audio than the Dolby ATMOS soundtrack?


For example the movie Oblivion with Tom Cruise. When the rope was cut and Jack fell down, there's a huge bass sweep and I can feel the bass moving the furniture and rattling the windows. On the 4K version of this movie at the same scene, the bass was very weak. The furniture did not move and no rattling on the windows.



May have to stop buying Dolby ATMOS movies from now on. DTS-HD Master Audio is still the king of bass movies.[/quote ] @Pradeep2 and myself have mentioned this before about Oblivion. I also noticed a huge difference in the stadium landing scene. Atmos bass sounded a lot weaker.
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We watched Skyscraper last night in Atmos from iTunes and the transfer was absolutely pathetic. The bass sucked and the track sounded super compressed. The highs were non existent also. Felt like I was listening to a movie on AM radio. Has anybody given the movie a spin on blu or 4K? I suspect it’s much better.
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My understanding is they've been gimping other series like Westworld on 4k disc as well. The glory days of Band of Brothers etc are sadly behind us I think.

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We watched Skyscraper last night in Atmos from iTunes and the transfer was absolutely pathetic. The bass sucked and the track sounded super compressed. The highs were non existent also. Felt like I was listening to a movie on AM radio. Has anybody given the movie a spin on blu or 4K? I suspect it’s much better.
All accounts are it sounds like garbage on the 4k release as well.

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First time watching Source Code in 4K Dolby Atmos, but only SDR on my HTPC and my couch's virtual butt-kickers went into overdrive many times! Believe it or not, I went into this movie without knowing anything about it as I never read anything or even watched a trailer! So awesome along with the enveloping bass that made my ears pressurize (and then I turned it down 1db).

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Quiet in here today!
Watched Hurt Locker before and I haven't watched it since getting my new subs and holy mackerel from that first bomb blast to the gunshots it really hit hard!
I actually took a break to run upstairs to shower and left it playing downstairs, and I felt like my bath tub was going to fall through the floor lol
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Hotel Transylvania 3 has excellent bass

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Little Fast and Furious 4k at reference volume in my condo no less lol
(There was definitely some drinks involved and my friend Jenny was over)
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Anyone notice the bass is much more powerful while watching a DTS-HD Master Audio than the Dolby ATMOS soundtrack?


For example the movie Oblivion with Tom Cruise. When the rope was cut and Jack fell down, there's a huge bass sweep and I can feel the bass moving the furniture and rattling the windows. On the 4K version of this movie at the same scene, the bass was very weak. The furniture did not move and no rattling on the windows.



May have to stop buying Dolby ATMOS movies from now on. DTS-HD Master Audio is still the king of bass movies.
Disagree on Disney movies. Their DTS HD tracks are crap compared to their Atmos. Listen to Infinity War Blu-ray audio vs the Atmos 4k disc audio. There is clearly more bass on the Atmos track.

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Anyone notice the bass is much more powerful while watching a DTS-HD Master Audio than the Dolby ATMOS soundtrack?


For example the movie Oblivion with Tom Cruise. When the rope was cut and Jack fell down, there's a huge bass sweep and I can feel the bass moving the furniture and rattling the windows. On the 4K version of this movie at the same scene, the bass was very weak. The furniture did not move and no rattling on the windows.



May have to stop buying Dolby ATMOS movies from now on. DTS-HD Master Audio is still the king of bass movies.
I noticed this with Rampage and Skyscraper 4K versions. The ATMOS soundtrack was tame. The DTS-MA on Rampage hit really hard and nice.
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Hotel Transylvania 3 has excellent bass
Yes! It gave my Monolith 15" a great workout. I almost want to buy the Blu-ray now to own because of it. I rented it from Redbox.
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Little Fast and Furious 4k at reference volume in my condo no less lol
(There was definitely some drinks involved and my friend Jenny was over)
Got this via Amazon yesterday sounds very solid and powerful, another magnificent DTS-X mix.

Today was 13 Hours of Benghazi and now Star Trek 2009, just cant get enough of those pulses when they go to warp. Evening will be Rampage in DTS, I've only tried the Atmos track in past viewings.

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I noticed this with Rampage and Skyscraper 4K versions. The ATMOS soundtrack was tame. The DTS-MA on Rampage hit really hard and nice.
Just finished Rampage with the DTS-HD Master track upscaled to neural x, definitely an improvement in bass feels over the Atmos. I didn't switch tracks during the movie but playing around during the end credits the Smashing Pumpkins bass line was clearly more poweful and present. Time to add it to a short list along with Oblivion and Pirates DMTNT.

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^^^ Thanks for testing this one out you guys. If its anything like the diff on Pirates, then I’m in for a real treat since I really like the bass in Rampage (Atmos track). Will put it in my que to try the comparison – there are a handful of bass scenes I love in Rampage.
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LOL, i actually have this one. Struggling a bit to find subtitles for it, but think i found it. Doesn’t look that bad, really

Very nice picture and it has Atmos
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This may turn out to be the worst excuse for a 4K/UHD upgrade with immersive Audio
(but certainly not worse than Hotel Artemis with no DTS:X/ATMOS and No HDR )




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Binged on The Haunting at Hill House on Netflix this weekend, good series and quite a few areas of bass on the Atmos side. Was told a couple times to turn it down since it was shaking all the pictures on the wall and I didn't even have it up that far, so would like to see how it sounds with it up more.

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Anyone notice the bass is much more powerful while watching a DTS-HD Master Audio than the Dolby ATMOS soundtrack?


For example the movie Oblivion with Tom Cruise. When the rope was cut and Jack fell down, there's a huge bass sweep and I can feel the bass moving the furniture and rattling the windows. On the 4K version of this movie at the same scene, the bass was very weak. The furniture did not move and no rattling on the windows.



May have to stop buying Dolby ATMOS movies from now on. DTS-HD Master Audio is still the king of bass movies.
I think I have mentioned it in here before, but some Dolby soundtracks automatically engage DRC on Denon and Marantz units and you have to go into the menu to override it. It's the absolute worst screw up I could ever think of yet it remains in their units year over year, and likely causes 95% of their owners to not even have a clue it's happening.

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(but certainly not worse than Hotel Artemis with no DTS:X/ATMOS and No HDR )




But still a Day 1 no questions asked purchase for me,
a Coeh Brothers Classic I simply must have!
I actually placed my pre-order about 2 months ago
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I think I have mentioned it in here before, but some Dolby soundtracks automatically engage DRC on Denon and Marantz units and you have to go into the menu to override it. It's the absolute worst screw up I could ever think of yet it remains in their units year over year, and likely causes 95% of their owners to not even have a clue it's happening.
What really sucks is my Marantz 7702 transitions to "Auto" DRC on all TrueHD/or Atmos tracks and doesn't allow it to be disengaged or adjusted at all.

In the words of Bruce Brazos (Dark of the Moon) "WTF to that??!!"

Some tracks it's very easy to hear the garbage results of said DRC (Skyscraper much!!!) and others make you wonder if the DRC is even active. (Sure enough it always is on any TrueHD/Atmos track)

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I think I have mentioned it in here before, but some Dolby soundtracks automatically engage DRC on Denon and Marantz units and you have to go into the menu to override it. It's the absolute worst screw up I could ever think of yet it remains in their units year over year, and likely causes 95% of their owners to not even have a clue it's happening.
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What really sucks is my Marantz 7702 transitions to "Auto" DRC on all TrueHD/or Atmos tracks and doesn't allow it to be disengaged or adjusted at all.
Damn, you both have me paranoid now (I have a Denon, for the record)! I know what I'm gonna check when I get home today... :-|


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I had no idea about this! From my Denon x4400h's manual:


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“Dynamic Compression” can be set when Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD, Dolby Atmos or DTS signal is input.

The default setting is “Off”. When the input signal is the Dolby TrueHD or Dolby Atmos source, the default setting is “Auto”.

“Auto” cannot be set when inputting a DTS signal.

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What really sucks is my Marantz 7702 transitions to "Auto" DRC on all TrueHD/or Atmos tracks and doesn't allow it to be disengaged or adjusted at all.

In the words of Bruce Brazos (Dark of the Moon) "WTF to that??!!"

Some tracks it's very easy to hear the garbage results of said DRC (Skyscraper much!!!) and others make you wonder if the DRC is even active. (Sure enough it always is on any TrueHD/Atmos track)

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Seriously, it won’t let you ever disengage it for any TrueHD/Atmoa tracks!!!??? That’s like WAY messed up! Defaulting to this is bad enough, but then not being able to disengage it, wow!

I couldn’t handle that, it can really mess up the bass and overall dynamics in a track, some worse than others though like you say.

On mine (Denon 6300H), once I change it to ‘off’ for a DolbyTrueHD or Atmos track, then it remembers and stays like that next time and forever it seems, UNLESS I accidentally use one of the quick select inputs on the remote or reset to defaults. Even running Audy again (through the Editors app anyway, although it does try to default DEQ to ON, but I turn it off in the app and it remembers it if I upload a new curve) it doesn’t default back to it to ‘ON’.

Dang man, all this time in our chats, I didn’t realize you were dealing with this.

‘Auto’ doesn’t seem to be as bad as ‘ON”, but I still don’t like it. I’ll check every so often just to make sure it doesn’t get set back to Auto or On though. With my old Onkyo 5010, I’d have to go in a set it to ‘off’ every time I watched a Dolby track and it fixed it for ALL dolby's for that session until I turned the AVR off and back on again, then I’d have to do it again. Drove me nuts!!

With the new Denon, I was used to having to do that every time on my Onk, but now the Denon just remembers which is nice, but took me a while to get used to it. Yay, so much better not having to mess with that every time.

Dang bro, hope you can get into a new unit pretty soon.

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Binged on The Haunting at Hill House on Netflix this weekend, good series and quite a few areas of bass on the Atmos side. Was told a couple times to turn it down since it was shaking all the pictures on the wall and I didn't even have it up that far, so would like to see how it sounds with it up more.
Watching first episode now. Nice bass in the club scene, took me by surprise!
Will have to try out the atmos thru Xbox, currently watching thru roku ultra.
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