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My wife & I just watched "Before I Wake", and it has some serious bass moments. There's a really nice set of ULF notes at the 1:19:55 mark of the movie that had MANY things shaking in the house. It was very reminiscent to the intro of Edge of Tomorrow.

In the words of Borat, "VERY NICE!".
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Like I said previously, I really enjoyed this bass treat!

Watch it on Netflix here!

Horror fans, rejoice! Currently 6.99 on Amazon right now.

I agree with SuperFist, this one is quite a ride, although it won't sit well with everyone. Your choice.
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My wife & I just watched "Before I Wake", and it has some serious bass moments. There's a really nice set of ULF notes at the 1:19:55 mark of the movie that had MANY things shaking in the house. It was very reminiscent to the intro of Edge of Tomorrow.

In the words of Borat, "VERY NICE!".
I guess you missed all the heavy talk this movie generated in the past few weeks. I'm glad you "discovered" this movie. I have yet to rewatch this one with my new setup.

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What really sucks is my Marantz 7702 transitions to "Auto" DRC on all TrueHD/or Atmos tracks and doesn't allow it to be disengaged or adjusted at all.
On my Marantz SR6012 there's a Loudness Management setting that needs to be turned On before you can access the Dynamic Compression setting. Once I do that I can access Dynamic Compression and change it from Auto to Off. Maybe there's something similar on your pre/pro?
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Watching first episode now. Nice bass in the club scene, took me by surprise!
Will have to try out the atmos thru Xbox, currently watching thru roku ultra.
In case you didn't know, the director/writer of Oculus is the creator of The Haunting Of Hill House. Interesting coincidence.
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@beastaudio Thanks you for telling us about the DRC crap, I hope on denon you can set it forever to "off"
You have to play something in order to even access the menu, that's why most of us as you said don't know about it, because most of us don't thinker with the menus while watching a movie..........

I really hope that doesn't make a TON of a difference, or i will be super mad, that i've watched soooo freaking many movies with that thing.
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I tried to find it in my Denon 4400 but couldn't find that menu. Last time I checked I had that turned off tho, unless it was in my Xbox one, hmm...
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LOL, i actually have this one. Struggling a bit to find subtitles for it, but think i found it. Doesn’t look that bad, really

Very nice picture and it has Atmos
Unfortunately, all of the English translations are absolutely horrendous to the point where even Google Translate would be a dramatic improvement!
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I guess you missed all the heavy talk this movie generated in the past few weeks. I'm glad you "discovered" this movie. I have yet to rewatch this one with my new setup.
Yeah, I must've missed that. Defintely worth a rewatch though.

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@beastaudio Thanks you for telling us about the DRC crap, I hope on denon you can set it forever to "off"

You have to play something in order to even access the menu, that's why most of us as you said don't know about it, because most of us don't thinker with the menus while watching a movie..........



I really hope that doesn't make a TON of a difference, or i will be super mad, that i've watched soooo freaking many movies with that thing.


That usually comes on and yes it makes a big difference. Chances are you need to rewatch a lot more movies


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The Denon 4400 turns DRC on every time a movie is played?
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The Denon 4400 turns DRC on every time a movie is played?


I don’t necessarily have a pattern for why it comes on just yet, but I know that I started looking about a few months ago and realized that quite often it is on at the beginning of a movie. I just wonder how many movies I have watched with it on?


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Geez, what a PITA. Thanks to all who brought the DRC up. Makes me want to hang on to my old avr even more. Why do features have to become so complicated. (If) DRC was fixed and not manually adjustable, that would be a deal breaker for me, the fact a movie has to be played so the avr knows what format before adjustments can be made is a PITA enough. Fortunately i now know to inquire about this when i do make my upgrade. Thanks everyone!!
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Yeah, I was about to just purchase the 4400 instead of waiting for HDMI 2.1, but I'm not dealing with that nonsense. Denon and Marantz seem to have some DRC issues and Yamaha has weak subwoofer output problems. Guess I'll hold off longer and see what 2019 brings.
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I agree with SuperFist, this one is quite a ride, although it won't sit well with everyone. Your choice.
We enjoyed this one as well (Netflix),as it was recently recommended on here. Very creepy .
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Regarding this drc thing with Denon/Marantz I just put in Jupiter Ascending uhd and checked. I have Loudness Management turned off and the dynamic compression is off too thank god.
(It says auto but is "greyed out" so it's off)
I switched between different sound modes as well and it remained off.

So I think as long as you have the Loudness Management off you should be good to go.

This is on my Denon x6200w

Edit: turned on loudness management, turned off dynamic compression, then turned loudness management back off.
Good to go!

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Regarding this drc thing with Denon/Marantz I just put in Jupiter Ascending uhd and checked. I have Loudness Management turned off and the dynamic compression is off too thank god.
(It says auto but is "greyed out" so it's off)
I switched between different sound modes as well and it remained off.

So I think as long as you have the Loudness Management off you should be good to go.

This is on my Denon x6200w

I hope you're right, but it could mean that you simply cannot change it and it's actually in "Auto" mode. The Loudness Management selection of OFF could simply mean you cannot change it and have no control.
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I hope you're right, but it could mean that you simply cannot change it and it's actually in "Auto" mode. The Loudness Management selection of OFF could simply mean you cannot change it and have no control.
I sure hope it's actually off! Yikes
Maybe @jdsmoothie could chime in
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I agree, I would enable Loudness Management, disable Dynamic Compression, then disable Loudness Management just to be safe.

FWIW, I've been digging into this issue using MediaInfo's Advanced mode. I haven't been able to find a TrueHD/Atmos track that actually contains (or at least shows in MediaInfo) any metadata for dialnorm/DRC.

The lossy AC3 tracks, however, do have the metadata. Here's an example (Sicario 2):
dialnorm : -31 dB
compr : 6.02 dB
dynrng : 5.88 dB
acmod : 7
lfeon : 1
dialnorm_Average : -31 dB
dialnorm_Minimum : -31 dB
dialnorm_Maximum : -31 dB
dialnorm_Count : 173
compr_Average : 6.02 dB
compr_Minimum : 6.02 dB
compr_Maximum : 6.02 dB
compr_Count : 173
dynrng_Average : 5.97 dB
dynrng_Minimum : 5.88 dB
dynrng_Maximum : 6.02 dB
dynrng_Count :

Perhaps the TrueHD/Atmos tracks don't contain this metadata, and thus that setting has been actually doing nothing on these tracks? In any case, I'm disabling it just to be sure.
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On my Marantz SR6012 there's a Loudness Management setting that needs to be turned On before you can access the Dynamic Compression setting. Once I do that I can access Dynamic Compression and change it from Auto to Off. Maybe there's something similar on your pre/pro?
Holy SHIZ! My hero. Worked like a charm brother, thank you so much. I have never wanted to use Loudness mgt. and therefore never turned it on to see it allows you to adjust the Dynamic compression. I've had the Marantz for over 3yrs now and never knew. Just goes to show this game will learn you something everyday if your doing it right. Lol

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Rented the blu-ray for Upgrade last night while wife was out. One of the better sounding movies I've watched this year. Excellent sound design (even if the soundtrack is only 5.1), made good use of the surrounds, of the music, and of the bottom end. Some ULF when the story needed it. I don't think it's in the same class as BR 2049 or A Quiet Place when it comes to being a bass heavy movie, but I doubt anyone on this list will be terribly disappointed in the bottom end.

As to the story, it's clear that the screenplay writers had read Dean Koontz. Koontz wrote a novel called Demon Seed back in 1973, then he completely rewrote it (because the technology had improved so much? IDK) in 1997. Both are good reads. And if you read either one, you'll see where Upgrade comes from. Interestingly similar themes, but dressed up differently.
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My local Walmart had a 4K 3 pack that included Ender's Game, The Last Witch Hunter, and Gods of Egypt for ony $15. I had only rented Gods of Egypt before and it was a "Rental Copy" with neutered 5.1 DD audio.

Watching this movie in 4K with DTS:X, HOLY CRAP!. This was one of the better audio mixes I have heard for an action film in a while. All channels, including overhead are used very well and the LFE and ULF are insane. The movie is just okay, but damn, the bass is more than enough to have me go back this one a few times.

I don't know if the audio track is a direct copy of the BD DTS:X version or not, but just in case anyone hasn't seen it yet you should totally pick this one up. The HDR is also very well done and really shines during the dark scenes. This Walmart find is pure gold. Just know it is only available in store and not online, I just checked.
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The Denon 4400 turns DRC on every time a movie is played?
Seems the answer was already given for you guys on how to disable it completely. I would never put faith in a "Grayed out" setting that still said auto, and hoped it just meant it wasn't working. Glad Mentat figured it out for you guys. I was about to pop in my old 7704 and see what I had done to get it to the off position so I am glad he beat me to it.

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Rented the blu-ray for Upgrade last night while wife was out. One of the better sounding movies I've watched this year. Excellent sound design (even if the soundtrack is only 5.1), made good use of the surrounds, of the music, and of the bottom end. Some ULF when the story needed it. I don't think it's in the same class as BR 2049 or A Quiet Place when it comes to being a bass heavy movie, but I doubt anyone on this list will be terribly disappointed in the bottom end.

As to the story, it's clear that the screenplay writers had read Dean Koontz. Koontz wrote a novel called Demon Seed back in 1973, then he completely rewrote it (because the technology had improved so much? IDK) in 1997. Both are good reads. And if you read either one, you'll see where Upgrade comes from. Interestingly similar themes, but dressed up differently.
I love Koontz novels so I will definitely have to put this to the top of my queue. Thanks! Favorite book of all time: The Bad Place.
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Perhaps the TrueHD/Atmos tracks don't contain this metadata, and thus that setting has been actually doing nothing on these tracks? In any case, I'm disabling it just to be sure.
I think this would be correct. I've been playing with the Night Mode button on my Onkyo, and I'm unable to turn on DCR, apparently the metadata is not present to the function to be even activated with Dolby lossless tracks.

If anyone is in doubt, it'd be easier trying to turn it off with the remote. If DCR is activated for whatever reason in a Dolby track, you should be able to turn it off.

Also, if an option appears to be greyed out, it means the option is disabled, but when activated it defaults to the option greyed out. In any case, the issue of automatic DCR belongs to very old Dolby lossless tracks. It appears that metadata is no longer present like in DTS tracks.

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You have to play something in order to even access the menu, that's why most of us as you said don't know about it, because most of us don't thinker with the menus while watching a movie..........
Yeah, that's the silliest part of this whole thing. There's a reason, certainly, but it's hardly what I consider user-friendly. Though, in the AV world, is it ever?



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Yeah, I was about to just purchase the 4400 instead of waiting for HDMI 2.1, but I'm not dealing with that nonsense. Denon and Marantz seem to have some DRC issues and Yamaha has weak subwoofer output problems. Guess I'll hold off longer and see what 2019 brings.
You're jumping the gun a bit, eh?


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Regarding this drc thing with Denon/Marantz I just put in Jupiter Ascending uhd and checked. I have Loudness Management turned off and the dynamic compression is off too thank god.
(It says auto but is "greyed out" so it's off)
I switched between different sound modes as well and it remained off.

So I think as long as you have the Loudness Management off you should be good to go.

This is on my Denon x6200w

Edit: turned on loudness management, turned off dynamic compression, then turned loudness management back off.
Good to go!
Thanks for sharing that. I saw the same behavior last night; I was checking it against Ash vs Evil Dead Season 1. Better to be safe than sorry, so I'm gonna follow the instructions you listed about turning Loudness Management on to access the switch.


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FWIW, I've been digging into this issue using MediaInfo's Advanced mode. I haven't been able to find a TrueHD/Atmos track that actually contains (or at least shows in MediaInfo) any metadata for dialnorm/DRC.

The lossy AC3 tracks, however, do have the metadata. Here's an example (Sicario 2):
dialnorm : -31 dB
compr : 6.02 dB
dynrng : 5.88 dB
acmod : 7
lfeon : 1
dialnorm_Average : -31 dB
dialnorm_Minimum : -31 dB
dialnorm_Maximum : -31 dB
dialnorm_Count : 173
compr_Average : 6.02 dB
compr_Minimum : 6.02 dB
compr_Maximum : 6.02 dB
compr_Count : 173
dynrng_Average : 5.97 dB
dynrng_Minimum : 5.88 dB
dynrng_Maximum : 6.02 dB
dynrng_Count :

Perhaps the TrueHD/Atmos tracks don't contain this metadata, and thus that setting has been actually doing nothing on these tracks?
Well, the data doesn't lie. Granted, you've only polled one title, but maybe it is a legacy function only applicable to the lossy tracks. Like you said, though, better turn it off all the same to be certain.



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Also, if an option appears to be greyed out, it means the option is disabled, but when activated it defaults to the option greyed out. In any case, the issue of automatic DCR belongs to very old Dolby lossless tracks. It appears that metadata is no longer present like in DTS tracks.
That logic is sound. And it makes sense it's a "legacy" item, but I find it so odd Denon explicitly mentions "Dolby TrueHD or Dolby Atmos."
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That logic is sound. And it makes sense it's a "legacy" item, but I find it so odd Denon explicitly mentions "Dolby TrueHD or Dolby Atmos."
I don't know why the default setting would be Auto with Dolby lossless tracks, but there were only a handful of cases back in the day in which the DRC flag would make the receiver or bluray player activate automatically the DRC function (Iron Man 1 comes to mind), and that was an authoring issue.

Like I said, I'm unable to activate the function at all with recent releases, and I seriously doubt anyone would have a problem even with that setting on Auto. And if anyone suspects the function is activated, turning it off with the remote is always possible. There's no reason to be particularly concerned about it.

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Well, the data doesn't lie. Granted, you've only polled one title, but maybe it is a legacy function only applicable to the lossy tracks. Like you said, though, better turn it off all the same to be certain.

That logic is sound. And it makes sense it's a "legacy" item, but I find it so odd Denon explicitly mentions "Dolby TrueHD or Dolby Atmos."
I actually checked a bunch of different Atmos titles and couldn't find one with metadata.

I feel the same way about Denon's wording. It's really strange that they mention those two.

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