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Can we please get a graph for the Netflix movie Sabrina? Nor the series but the horror movie.
The opening part with the film's production and throughout has bass that vibrates walls and I don't mean only near field. Vibrates other rooms.

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Tonight was a good night in terms of bass and audio quality, paired with good entertainment. Isn't that the whole reason we have HTs?

First, Gods Of Egypt (Gerald Butler). This movie wouldn't qualify as a bass fest, but it had plenty of it, and was very fun. It hit hard, was loud, but was also varied and the mix had great dynamics. I found the mix a bit inconsistent at times, for it wasn't as involving or detailed as I felt it could be. Besides the dialogue seemed a bit low at times. Overall the audio is pretty good, but I wouldn't rank it among the best mixes I've heard, but it doesn't have to be. The movie is recommended for the pairing of visuals and audio, which quite frankly is half of the fun with movie.

I listened to it between -14 and -7 (I had to ride the MV because there were people at home), but the track was balanced, though a little low in level. When I hit -7 in some scenes towards the end, it never sounded harsh or too overbearing, and had I been alone, I probably had ventured watching the whole thing at -6.

The surprise of the evening was the movie Ninja Assassin (the one with the Korean star Rain). The film had huge amounts of bass, and it was very well executed. Gunshots, explosions, ninja weapons, crushes, punches, music score, and pretty much everything audio related was spot on, and almost flawless. I was quite impressed with the audio quality and attention to detail, especially for a movie that wasn't a big blockbuster.

Gods Of Egypt had "bigger" scenes , but Ninja was more consistent in everything, and even had louder bass at lower MV at times. The audio mix complemented very nicely the onscreen action, which was superb.

IIRC, both movies are full bandwidth, or at least I remember Ninja scoring pretty high on data-bass.

Both movies guarantee at the very least a great audio experience.

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Yeah Ninja Assassin is a fun watch,great bass and excellent use of surrounds!





Unfortunately I thought Gods of Egypt was such a stinker I gave up 30mins in.

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^°^°°^^

Hahaha. So you didn't liked GoE? It's super cheesy and completely ridiculous, but that's why I love it.

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I remember discussion a while back in regards to Top Gun that although the DTS-HD MA mix had a little more bass extension, that the True-HD mix had the better overall sound mix. Was this correct? I tried to search the thread but searching Top Gun wouldn't bring up any results. I know the graph on the front page confirms the bass situation-



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I remember discussion a while back in regards to Top Gun that although the DTS-HD MA mix had a little more bass extension, that the True-HD mix had the better overall sound mix. Was this correct? I tried to search the thread but searching Top Gun wouldn't bring up any results. I know the graph on the front page confirms the bass situation-


I have look into this a few times and every time the DTS-HD track was the winner, more dynamic and impactful. If you have the blu-ray you can play scenes back to back and see for yourself

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I have look into this a few times and every time the DTS-HD track was the winner, more dynamic and impactful. If you have the blu-ray you can play scenes back to back and see for yourself
I bought the 3D Blu-ray on a black friday deal so I could test it, but it's a film I haven't seen since the 1980s and can't remember a thing about, so I want to just watch it from beginning to end tonight rather than jumping around scenes out of context to see which sound format I prefer. That would spoil the experience for me.

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I bought the 3D Blu-ray on a black friday deal so I could test it, but it's a film I haven't seen since the 1980s and can't remember a thing about, so I want to just watch it from beginning to end tonight rather than jumping around scenes out of context to see which sound format I prefer. That would spoil the experience for me.
Then go straight to the DTS-HD mix
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So... looks like your 4k TVs, and your atmos sound, is already obsolete. NHK Japan is now broadcasting 8k, with 22.2 channel sound.

We're all so old and lame, eh?

Good luck with that NHK. I don't think I'm your target market. I'm just wondering who is, exactly.
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Good luck with that NHK. I don't think I'm your target market. I'm just wondering who is, exactly.
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So... looks like your 4k TVs, and your atmos sound, is already obsolete. NHK Japan is now broadcasting 8k, with 22.2 channel sound.

We're all so old and lame, eh?

Good luck with that NHK. I don't think I'm your target market. I'm just wondering who is, exactly.
Eff 8K!! It's all marketing hype anyway.

The biggest draw of 4K is HDR with wide color gamut.

Viewing the 4K & 1080p resolution from the recommended distance on a 65" TV is negligible at best!
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Eff 8K!! It's all marketing hype anyway.

The biggest draw of 4K is HDR with wide color gamut.

Viewing the 4K & 1080p resolution from the recommended distance on a 65" TV is negligible at best!
Regardless how we feel now.....8k with hdr is next in line.....

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Regardless how we feel now.....8k with hdr is next in line.....

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Regardless how we feel now.....8k with hdr is next in line.....

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An yes i can't wait for those 2K movies to be upscaled to 8K we can't even get 4K digital Intermediates so I'm in no rush to get horrible left overs that's being sold at a premium with new fancy words and packaging. Studios are too lazy to do new film scans and won't go back to films that have native 4K files and above. If the old digital master looks good they will half ass it with an upscale and people will buy it for the new high price. I only have one 2K upscale and that's Ready Player One (2018) because that was worth it over the horrible BD transfer.

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@MrGrey I see a Lion King in Atmos graph in a neat future
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So... looks like your 4k TVs, and your atmos sound, is already obsolete. NHK Japan is now broadcasting 8k, with 22.2 channel sound.

We're all so old and lame, eh?

Good luck with that NHK. I don't think I'm your target market. I'm just wondering who is, exactly.
Requires quite a few speakers on the screen wall including bottom front left, bottom front center and bottom front right- going to be tough to pull off unless you have quite a tall room.

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An yes i can't wait for those 2K movies to be upscaled to 8K we can't even get 4K digital Intermediates so I'm in no rush to get horrible left overs that's being sold at a premium with new fancy words and packaging. Studios are too lazy to do new film scans and won't go back to films that have native 4K files and above. If the old digital master looks good they will half ass it with an upscale and people will buy it for the new high price. I only have one 2K upscale and that's Ready Player One (2018) because that was worth it over the horrible BD transfer.

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I completely agree, also, don't forget Pacific Rim....one of the best upscales out there (if not THE best).

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@MrGrey I see a Lion King in Atmos graph in a neat future
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I completely agree, also, don't forget Pacific Rim....one of the best upscales out there (if not THE best).

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Indeed. Plus the atmos track is pretty mental.

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The Lion King (1994) UHD Bass Graph

Video: 72.2Mbps
Atmos track: 9.5mbps





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^^^^^

Not enough ULF...no buy.

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Not too bad for a 1994 animation. I will give further impression after I watch it
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The thing with 4k is that I don't think the directors/DPs even have that technology in mind when they're filming. Very few directors even take full advantage of 1080p specs, but they now care about 4k?

In the PQ thread maybe 2 out of 10 BDs make the reference tier. Even some UHD doesn't even crack it, HDR and all. 8k really seems like a joke at this point.

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Hey, man. I was kidding. I can't do ULF.

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Then go straight to the DTS-HD mix
Thanks, I went with the DTS-HD MA mix and that is one awesome sounding film for it's age! All of the aerial scenes still looked great, and sounded amazing! A nice amount of bass on top of aggressive use of surround channels and dynamic range! I didn't bother to compare with the TuueHD mix, but may do in the future out of curiosity.
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Regardless how we feel now.....8k with hdr is next in line.....
Oh, most definitely! The technology moves on in spite of the curmudgeon (me) who isn't budging.

I apologize if it appeared I was speaking for everyone. I think we all have a tendency of doing that every now and then, but I was referring to myself. My brief stint with the 4K HDR on the Vizio I returned was amazing, no doubt, but I can live without it for now.

I'm am very happy with what I have. I try to curb my desires and live within my means as much as I can. Otherwise, I'd be in debt like a lot of people, but I'm very content being debt-free outside of my mortgage. And for now I have enough bass for my tastes so I'm as snug as a bug in a rug... can you dig what I dug?
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exactly...until the recording equipment is upgraded most 4k movies are just up scaled 2-3k. All a bunch of marketing hype...
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I can't wait to see what others think of THE NUN (2018) Atmos track my god!!

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