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I wouldn't trust Disney to remix TRON into Atmos at this point. They'd filter out the bass an squash the dynamics and they'd do in the name of their god, THE SOUNDBAR!!!!

You're better off just using Neural:X. Thank god for DTS as the Dolby Surround Upmixer SUCKS.
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Was gonna say the same thing! Maybe it wasn't a bad thing Cloverfield 4k didn't get an ATMOS upgrade. Better don't mess with an all-time great. Just look at Hellboy 2 :/

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You know, between stuff like that, and Disney completely borking the whole metadata thing for PROPER 4k/HDR presentation, I feel like they should be absolutely ashamed. While Disney has a leg up on the competition, and is sort of the 800 pound gorilla of the industry, their performance when it comes to producing discs is deplorable....EVEN FOR THEIR HIGHEST GROSSING SERIES?!??!! It would be like LeBron playing in the NBA playoffs and consistently throwing up 5 point games when you should be anticipating 50 point games. He would be embarrassed by that type of performance wouldn't you think? I can't imagine Disney isn't in some shape or form. Again, maybe they don't care, making money hand over fist, but in the industry, some of the other studios have to be laughing their butts off at how bad Disney is screwing up their titles. I bet a few look at some of them and simply think, "What in tarnation?!?!?" Solo perhaps being one of the "Worser" titles as of late. It's just sad as an enthusiast. Perhaps the Lakers still win the game (i.e. Disney still sells a ton of material), but BronBron ain't gonna let that type of performance persist....

The appearance of Solo's UHD correctly reflects the intended look of its cinematographer Bradford Young, who prefers low-light and natural light setups. There were similar complaints ("too dark") from some quarters about the look of Arrival, his previous effort (wonderful film, BTW). Neither Disney nor Paramount mucked around with the visuals for the respective UHDs. So in this case, question the choice of cinematographer, not the studio's mastering of the disc.
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The appearance of Solo's UHD correctly reflects the intended look of its cinematographer Bradford Young, who prefers low-light and natural light setups. There were similar complaints ("too dark") from some quarters about the look of Arrival, his previous effort (wonderful film, BTW). Neither Disney nor Paramount mucked around with the visuals for the respective UHDs. So in this case, question the choice of cinematographer, not the studio's mastering of the disc.
That makes sense then at least for Solo, however Disney doesnt get a pass for all the other junk unfortunately. BTW, I loved Arrival as well.

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The 4K Harry Potter series has great DTS:X and the bass is great, IMO. I don't remember which one it was, but on one of them it was quiet, then a deep bass sound effect hit and it made me jump. Sounded like a bomb went off in my house, lol. That was at -15, can't imagine it at reference.

Another good one for Atmos is Jupiter Ascending. It has overhead effects like crazy, sounds really good. Bass doesn't seem super low, but overhead action is worth it.
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The 4K Harry Potter series has great DTS:X and the bass is great, IMO. I don't remember which one it was, but on one of them it was quiet, then a deep bass sound effect hit and it made me jump. Sounded like a bomb went off in my house, lol. That was at -15, can't imagine it at reference.

Another good one for Atmos is Jupiter Ascending. It has overhead effects like crazy, sounds really good. Bass doesn't seem super low, but overhead action is worth it.

Jupiter Ascending is all super low bass

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...cinematographer Bradford Young, who prefers low-light and natural light setups. There were similar complaints ("too dark") from some quarters about the look of Arrival, his previous effort (wonderful film, BTW).

Yes. I think people who are complaining about the "look" of a film on their TV should consider getting their TV calibrated. It's amazing what a proper calibration can do for a TV, especially a high end TV (old plasmas, new OLEDs, laser projectors, etc.). Suddenly that "too dark" look is "just right".


Arrival is a perfect example. What a wonderful film. And what a wonderful look from Denis Villeneuve and Bradford Young. And the sound is pretty darn good too.
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The 4K Harry Potter series has great DTS:X and the bass is great, IMO. I don't remember which one it was, but on one of them it was quiet, then a deep bass sound effect hit and it made me jump. Sounded like a bomb went off in my house, lol. That was at -15, can't imagine it at reference.

Another good one for Atmos is Jupiter Ascending. It has overhead effects like crazy, sounds really good. Bass doesn't seem super low, but overhead action is worth it.

Jupiter Ascending is all super low bass[IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/IMG]

Well color me corrected. It seemed good, just not as low as say, The Incredible Hulk or War of the Worlds low.
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Well color me corrected. It seemed good, just not as low as say, The Incredible Hulk or War of the Worlds low.
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Well color me corrected. It seemed good, just not as low as say, The Incredible Hulk or War of the Worlds low.
What sub(s) are you running?
Unless you're Single Digit capable at reference levels, They are a lot closer than you think...

All definitely pass/exceed the 20Hz at -20dB benchmark







Notice MMFR is the worst on the PvA graph,
...but the Best in the Spectrum heat map
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does redbox disks have atmos audio?
every disk ive rented doesnt have atmos in the audio menu.
i suppose i can just choose atmos with my avr but thats not real atmos is it
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Well color me corrected. It seemed good, just not as low as say, The Incredible Hulk or War of the Worlds low.
Okay. That color is Mary Kay Pink [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/tongue.gif[/IMG] Would look just AWSUM on that shoebox! [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/tongue.gif[/IMG]
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Well color me corrected. It seemed good, just not as low as say, The Incredible Hulk or War of the Worlds low.
What sub(s) are you running?
Unless you're Single Digit capable at reference levels, They are a lot closer than you think...

All three definitely pass in the 20Hz at -20dB test




Here's the spectra graphs for each....

Jupiter Ascending


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I only have a single PB-2000. Strange because the Hulk and War of the Worlds both seem alot deeper and more impactful. Maybe it is a limit of my sub?
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Do you have at least 2 overhead (preferably 4) speakers?
...if not, you only get to play the core 5.1/7.1 TrueHD audio.

ATMOS is not a mode on your AVR that you get to select.

If your disc has ATMOS and you have and ATMOS capable AVR
..with a 5.1.2, 5.1.4, 7.1.2 or 7.1.4 speaker configuration,
you just have to play "straight" with no post processing applied

Non-ATMOS/DTS:X sources can be upmixed to use Height channels with Dolby Surround or Neural:X
...but you still need overhead/height speakers to use those.


oh i see. i have just two front left and right atmos speakers running from denon x3300
ill rent mi fallout and just press play and see if atmos speakers enable. i wotn mess with audio options
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Non-ATMOS/DTS:X sources can be upmixed to use Height channels with Dolby Surround or Neural:X
...but you still need overhead/height speakers to use those.

Not perfectly true, you can upmix stereo to 5.1/7.1 using DSU or Neural X
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Do you have at least 2 overhead (preferably 4) speakers?
...if not, you only get to play the core 5.1/7.1 TrueHD audio.

ATMOS is not a mode on your AVR that you get to select.

If your disc has ATMOS and you have and ATMOS capable AVR
..with a 5.1.2, 5.1.4, 7.1.2 or 7.1.4 speaker configuration,
you just have to play "straight" with no post processing applied

Non-ATMOS/DTS:X sources can be upmixed to use Height channels with Dolby Surround or Neural:X
...but you still need overhead/height speakers to use those.

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oh i see. i have just two front left and right atmos speakers running from denon x3300
ill rent mi fallout and just press play and see if atmos speakers enable. i wotn mess with audio options
Double check that Atmos or DTS:X is the selected audio output on the movie menu, not all movies have Atmos/DTS:X selected by default, you have to manually select it sometimes, depending on the movie.
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Yes. I think people who are complaining about the "look" of a film on their TV should consider getting their TV calibrated. It's amazing what a proper calibration can do for a TV, especially a high end TV (old plasmas, new OLEDs, laser projectors, etc.). Suddenly that "too dark" look is "just right".


Arrival is a perfect example. What a wonderful film. And what a wonderful look from Denis Villeneuve and Bradford Young. And the sound is pretty darn good too.
Not disagreeing with you at all irt calibration of displays, however being one of the "People who are complaining" I assure you my display is not the issue. I see now of the director's intent with Solo, I get that, but elevated black floor, with gray space scenes is silly. Arrival is not an equivalent as it was very well done from a contrast standpoint with good black levels and the increasing brightness throughout the movie was done effortlessly as the story and enlightenment of the characters unfolded. To the uninformed it would be very easy to think that movie is too dark. The first scene starts coming almost out of total black! I actually had to rewatch the movie with that in mind after I learned that it was completely intentional and appreciated it much more the second go-round.

The real issue is what the 4k/HDR Wild Wild West is right now and Disney not at least taking steps to maximize and improve the end experience. Quite the opposite really. When you are neglecting to even include metadata that is essential to ATTEMPT to present the material properly, you're literally giving the end-user the equivalent of drunk goggles and telling them to "Enjoy the SHOW!"

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Not perfectly true, you can upmix stereo to 5.1/7.1 using DSU or Neural X
Actually, many newer AVRs have DTS Virtual:X on them and they can upmix everything but Dolby bitstreamed (you can still do it with PCM output on Dolby signals, but that means no Atmos either way, just the base 7.1 TrueHD soundtrack) to full overhead sound (at least for the MLP) using just 5.1 or 7.1 speakers. I tested it out on my 7012 (had to disable my overheads for it show up). It was unbelievable what a great job that mode did simulating overheads that weren't there! You could hear some "leakage" in the DTS:X speaker callout test from the phantom overhead to the lower channels, but that was about it. With real material (e.g. DTS:X demos) it sounded virtually the same as if i had the overheads on. I was quite impressed. I actually wish they had it enabled as a surround mode even with overheads enabled so I didn't have to go into the amp assign to test it or I'd try it out some more with real movies if I could click/compare heavy overhead scenes.

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What sub(s) are you running?
Unless you're Single Digit capable at reference levels, They are a lot closer than you think...

All three definitely pass/exceed the 20Hz at -20dB test




Here's the spectra graphs for each....
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How come Jupiter Ascending hasn't been talked about more in the past with a graph like that. It beats TIH and WoTW in the 10-20hz range. So the graph is great, but is the Bass used as often as the others?
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How come Jupiter Ascending hasn't been talked about more in the past with a graph like that. It beats TIH and WoTW in the 10-20hz range. So the graph is great, but is the Bass used as often as the others?
It's just before your time I guess

Open the spoiler link, it shows the spectrum graphs aka heat maps
that are a Far better representation of how often each frequency is used with time stamps in the left margin.

Aron has been including Both graph styles with before and after BEQ results over in the "other" thread.
Leaving no question as to exactly what your getting from the studio and what you gain with BEQ over the stock Disney'd titles.
Obviously there is not much work required on the Bass Monster flicks, so both sides look similar in the spectrum heat maps.

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Jupiter Ascending has been talked about quite a bit in the past, I think the reason it doesn't get thrown into the mix of "All time best MWB" is maybe because it doesn't have as many iconic, full-on hard-hitting bass scenes as some of the others.The scene with the 25Hz spike is arguably one of the loudest around





Movies like MM Fury Road, Tron Legacy, War of the Worlds, TIH, B:LA etc have scene after scene that have relentless pounding bass




*edit* Pio beat me to it
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All this talk of Jupiter Ascending got me to watch tonight. I bought 4K as part of the Holiday sales and has been sitting on my shelf. I had read the the story was cheesy so I wasn't focused on watching right away. Well I didn't find it cheesy. I found it very entertaining! There are certain references where I can see some saying cheese, but for me I found them enhancing the charm of the movie. I know this isn't a picture thread, but must be mentioned. Simply WOW! So much detail and sharp, and then there is the colors. This movie looked so amazing on my OLED. @HYPURR DBL NKL mentioned the Atmos. Yes that is very well done. In fact the first I heard about this movie is when I was looking for Atmos demo clips. There is a scene with some bees and I found it more enveloping than the bee scene in Blade Runner 2049. I had to rewind and listen to it a couple times. It took me by surprise. There is another scene where the main character wakes up to a computer voice talking that is all overhead speaker use. Now to the point of this thread. It starts off from the get go during the opening studio logos and is good throughout. It is used to enhance a scene and different sounds for different events. It is not the same sound constantly there overdone and ruining it for any impact unlike a popular movie I particularly didn't like. Of course it was really strong in the climatic scene moving my seat, pant leg, and churning my gut. Mind you this is with sealed subs. But none of that was blowing out my eardrums making me want to turn down the volume unlike that movie I didn't like. There was one scene towards the middle in a corn field. Sudden change of pressure in my room where you just felt this weight and my closet doors were rattling. Wasn't really loud in the audible range, but it sure brought a smile to my face. This one will be re-watched and used to demo my setup.


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Yeah I agree, JA is one of my guilty pleasure movies that I revisit a couple of time/year and I never get sick of it. Fantastic PQ and SQ and an entertaining story...that's enough for me. It IS a little cheesy, in the same way Aquaman is (which I also really enjoyed!)
I think it was perhaps judged so harshly because it was a bit overhyped before its cinema release
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It's just before your time I guess

Open the spoiler link, it shows the spectrum graphs aka heat maps
that are a Far better representation of how often each frequency is used with time stamps in the left margin.

Aron has been including Both graph styles with before and after BEQ results over in the "other" thread.
Leaving no question as to exactly what your getting from the studio and what you gain with BEQ over the stock Disney'd titles.
Obviously there is not much work required on the Bass Monster flicks, so both sides look similar in the spectrum heat maps.

BTW....Lukeamdman's GTG (2015) with Jupiter Ascending at 142dB
(Kitchen is above his basement Home Theater)

https://youtu.be/UOgErtNRA7c

I've seen some footage from that G2G, but haven't seen that one....WOW! I'm guessing that was the 25hz peak? And yes before my time, I just started being active in this forum Jan 2018.

I've seen it before but that was before joining this forum and upgrading everything lol. I look forward to this one again now that I have this information. I actually have a peak in my room around 26hz so I'm guessing that scene should be intense in here!!
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I wouldn't trust Disney to remix TRON into Atmos at this point. They'd filter out the bass an squash the dynamics and they'd do in the name of their god, THE SOUNDBAR!!!!

You're better off just using Neural:X. Thank god for DTS as the Dolby Surround Upmixer SUCKS.
Well, atleast 4k then..
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Well, atleast 4k then..

Yeah that movie would look incredible in HDR, and if they **** up the audio, can always remux it with the Blu-Ray
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Jupiter Ascending has been talked about quite a bit in the past, I think the reason it doesn't get thrown into the mix of "All time best MWB" is maybe because it doesn't have as many iconic, full-on hard-hitting bass scenes as some of the others.The scene with the 25Hz spike is arguably one of the loudest around





Movies like MM Fury Road, Tron Legacy, War of the Worlds, TIH, B:LA etc have scene after scene that have relentless pounding bass




*edit* Pio beat me to it

This list is still accurate to me for all time best..
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/113-s...cy-charts.html

Probably most of us in this forum has all collections of 5 and 4 star. Some of 3 star. Even double dipping to 4K/ immersive surround disk too.
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30Hz cliff turned into a Single Digit Mountain Range



Guys, what are those doted lines in those graphs?

my DVD collection <- not all dvds from me are included there ;)
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Guys, what are those doted lines in those graphs?
That's the piss poor excuse for a sound track with the LFE heavily filtered down to a soundbar mix from Disney

The solid line is after BEQ (aka Bass EQ) -> thread for discussions on "how to" have been moved here: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/113-s...l#post56610134


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