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Well tonight I watched Flight of the Phoenix at -10 and the experience was good but still not what I'd think I should be getting. It's a dedicated 12x16 room. The last time I ran REW, I was flat to almost 7hz. Since then, I've bumped the amp gain up one click and the LF adjust up three so I should have a nice house bump now.

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Well tonight I watched Flight of the Phoenix at -10 and the experience was good but still not what I'd think I should be getting. It's a dedicated 12x16 room. The last time I ran REW, I was flat to almost 7hz. Since then, I've bumped the amp gain up one click and the LF adjust up three so I should have a nice house bump now.

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Man @IrishHT , that barrel roll should just slam your room!
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The Rhythm Section (2020) is slow to start, but if you stick in there you'll realize it's one of the most dynamic, best mixed movies out there! The bass sneaks up on you and hits with force as well as subtlety, the gun shots are nearly perfectly executed with authority, clarity and force! Music, when present, envelops you in a cocoon of sound where you will swear this is an object-enabled audio mix as you can easily track sounds overhead, panning from front to back and around the room.

Blake Lively gives a stunning performance in this to the point where she's not seen as most films like these portray - an unstoppable, fighting and killing machine - but a vulnerable woman who has learned just enough to make it through to her ultimate mission.

The LFE may not be as voluminous as some of the heavy hitters we all know and love, but it sure is swift, effective and purposeful! This is such a good film with an amazing lossy soundtrack that I shudder to think how much better the lossless audio will be once it's released!


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The Rhythm Section (2020) is slow to start, but if you stick in there you'll realize it's one of the most dynamic, best mixed movies out there! The bass sneaks up on you and hits with force as well as subtlety, the gun shots are nearly perfectly executed with authority, clarity and force! Music, when present, envelops you in a cocoon of sound where you will swear this is an object-enabled audio mix as you can easily track sounds overhead, panning from front to back and around the room.

Blake Lively gives a stunning performance in this to the point where she's not seen as most films like these portray - an unstoppable, fighting and killing machine - but a vulnerable woman who has learned just enough to make it through to her ultimate mission.

The LFE may not be as voluminous as some of the heavy hitters we all know and love, but it sure is swift, effective and purposeful! This is such a good film with an amazing lossy soundtrack that I shutter to think how much better the lossless audio will be once it's released!

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The Rhythm Section (2020) is slow to start, but if you stick in there you'll realize it's one of the most dynamic, best mixed movies out there! The bass sneaks up on you and hits with force as well as subtlety, the gun shots are nearly perfectly executed with authority, clarity and force! Music, when present, envelops you in a cocoon of sound where you will swear this is an object-enabled audio mix as you can easily track sounds overhead, panning from front to back and around the room.

Blake Lively gives a stunning performance in this to the point where she's not seen as most films like these portray - an unstoppable, fighting and killing machine - but a vulnerable woman who has learned just enough to make it through to her ultimate mission.

The LFE may not be as voluminous as some of the heavy hitters we all know and love, but it sure is swift, effective and purposeful! This is such a good film with an amazing lossy soundtrack that I shutter to think how much better the lossless audio will be once it's released!

I saw the previews for this and am really excited to see it. I think I've reached my movie quota for a while, though. After ordering all the Marvel and Star Wars films on UHD, and all the other small purchases I've made, my wife is rolling her eyes at me, lol. I will put this in my amazon cart and save it for later.
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Well tonight I watched Flight of the Phoenix at -10 and the experience was good but still not what I'd think I should be getting. It's a dedicated 12x16 room. The last time I ran REW, I was flat to almost 7hz. Since then, I've bumped the amp gain up one click and the LF adjust up three so I should have a nice house bump now.

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One other question: is your room treated? Adding bass traps to my room and paneling increased the subwoofers ability to pressurize and give that low-end quick. When I first built the room, I treated it with bass traps in all corners and bought a room pack from Acoustimac of panels. They didn't treat the entire room and I sacrifice some of the front wall. I recently installed all the panels there and it made a world of difference pressurizing the entire room.
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I actually was just about to post a question regarding what db level is needed to achieve that tactile kick in the chest feeling haha. I've been enjoying my new F18 with BEQ but haven't gotten that chest punch at all.
That feeling of "chest punch" is typically in the mid-bass. That is, somewhere in the 100-150 Hz region. Above your subs.

https://www.audioholics.com/room-aco...ation-of-sound

"One of the most prominent effects of high-level low frequency sound is the so-called ‘chest punch’ or ‘chest slam’. The sensation of chest vibration was reported over a broad range of low frequencies, although it seems more commonly pronounced in mid-bass frequencies around 100+ Hz as opposed to lower bass below 50 Hz."
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I bet. I’ve been eyeing some of the GSG flat panel packs to build my own subwoofers. Maybe I need to do that and get on onboard with the BEQ experience.
FWIW, I'm BEQ'ing with just my little ol PB12 Plus and I'm getting plenty of benefit from it. Of course, that's not to say that you shouldn't build/add more subs into the mix, because...well, you know. It's more.
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I saw the previews for this and am really excited to see it. I think I've reached my movie quota for a while, though. After ordering all the Marvel and Star Wars films on UHD, and all the other small purchases I've made, my wife is rolling her eyes at me, lol. I will put this in my amazon cart and save it for later.
Seems like now would be the perfect time to slip some more by her. Use the stay at home orders as cover.
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FWIW, I'm BEQ'ing with just my little ol PB12 Plus and I'm getting plenty of benefit from it. Of course, that's not to say that you shouldn't build/add more subs into the mix, because...well, you know. It's more.
The PB12 Plus is no slouch. One of the best small subs I’ve ever had.

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Seems like now would be the perfect time to slip some more by her. Use the stay at home orders as cover.
I would, but considering we just put in a pool and all the cost associated with furniture and accessories, she is eyeing my purchases like a hawk, lol. I order the ones I have to have, but this one is on the short list. Maybe in a couple of weeks, lol.
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The PB12 Plus is no slouch. One of the best small subs I’ve ever had.
Agreed! It's been a pretty impressive sub thus far, and while it does have its limitations, its handled most everything that I've thrown at it like a champ.

I was originally going to sell it whenever upgrade time rolls around, but I'm now thinking that it might have to move over to bedroom duties.
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Man @IrishHT , that barrel roll should just slam your room!
Well, there were actually two different scenes that actually rattled one of the doors open and I had to get up and shut it back. I actually was a little scared for my sub. The amp should go into protect mode before the driver can be damaged though correct? I know Mark tests these pretty heavily.

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One other question: is your room treated? Adding bass traps to my room and paneling increased the subwoofers ability to pressurize and give that low-end quick. When I first built the room, I treated it with bass traps in all corners and bought a room pack from Acoustimac of panels. They didn't treat the entire room and I sacrifice some of the front wall. I recently installed all the panels there and it made a world of difference pressurizing the entire room.
I'm actually in the process of treating it now. I have four 4ftx2ft DIY panels done with more to go but with my swing shift schedule, it been slow going. With just the current panels done, it has tightened up the bass.

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That feeling of "chest punch" is typically in the mid-bass. That is, somewhere in the 100-150 Hz region. Above your subs.

https://www.audioholics.com/room-aco...ation-of-sound

"One of the most prominent effects of high-level low frequency sound is the so-called ‘chest punch’ or ‘chest slam’. The sensation of chest vibration was reported over a broad range of low frequencies, although it seems more commonly pronounced in mid-bass frequencies around 100+ Hz as opposed to lower bass below 50 Hz."
Hmm, so maybe I need an EQ bump in that range? I just switched from AA+ monitors to Chane A5.5s for L/R so they should be able to handle a boost I'd imagine.

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Well, there were actually two different scenes that actually rattled one of the doors open and I had to get up and shut it back. I actually was a little scared for my sub. The amp should go into protect mode before the driver can be damaged though correct? I know Mark tests these pretty heavily.

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Nope, you can’t hurt it. The limiter would kick in before the sub would bottom out or displace the driver. It would hurt you before you could hurt it, lol.

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Was able to sit down, drink a couple beers, and watch a double header last night.

Bad Boys 4 Life- Overall great movie imo. Very entertaining and the audio was excellent with good bass... It exceeded my expectations.

IPman 4- Fantastic picture quality in HDR10. Audio was great especially for a lip sync flick. And I absolutely loved the tight mid bass slam during the fighting scenes. Not a ton of deep bass but the mid bass execution was spot on.
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Was able to sit down, drink a couple beers, and watch a double header last night.

Bad Boys 4 Life- Overall great movie imo. Very entertaining and the audio was excellent with good bass... It exceeded my expectations.

IPman 4- Fantastic picture quality in HDR10. Audio was great especially for a lip sync flick. And I absolutely loved the tight mid bass slam during the fighting scenes. Not a ton of deep bass but the mid bass execution was spot on.
Can't remember if you BEQ, but the extra performance that Aron squeezed out pushed the mid bass to even better levels.
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Watched Underwater last night and boy was the bass amazing. It was the real monster of the movie! The audio mixing was superb with excellent surround usage and I loved the electronic score. There was a tinge of Tangerine Dream towards the end. The PQ was pretty amazing as well, especially since there is little light to speak of in most scenes. This film requires you to check your brain at the door, but if you like creature features and B-Horror films, this one is right up you alley.

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Nope, you can’t hurt it. The limiter would kick in before the sub would bottom out or displace the driver. It would hurt you before you could hurt it, lol.
That's tough to wrap my mind around since I've always had to be cautious with my previous subs. I do remember a post where someone had a SubM and were saying they weren't getting what they expected and Mark just told him to keep turning up that gain.

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Watched Underwater last night and boy was the bass amazing. It was the real monster of the movie! The audio mixing was superb with excellent surround usage and I loved the electronic score. There was a tinge of Tangerine Dream towards the end. The PQ was pretty amazing as well, especially since there is little light to speak of in most scenes. This film requires you to check your brain at the door, but if you like creature features and B-Horror films, this one is right up you alley.
I enjoyed Underwater quite a bit too. Old story with a twist.

Just finished Gemini Man and it too had the room rocking and rolling with bass.
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Watched Underwater last night and boy was the bass amazing. It was the real monster of the movie! The audio mixing was superb with excellent surround usage and I loved the electronic score. There was a tinge of Tangerine Dream towards the end. The PQ was pretty amazing as well, especially since there is little light to speak of in most scenes. This film requires you to check your brain at the door, but if you like creature features and B-Horror films, this one is right up you alley.

I recently saw Underwater as well and I was pleasantly surprised because I enjoyed it more than I expected. There's also a nice treat for HP Lovecraft fans during the final part of the movie.
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Well said @Tom Riddle , the audio was great and the bass was fun. Nice to hear from ya Gunny @climber07 !
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The Rise of Skywalker brought the goods. I was thoroughly impressed with the Bass content on the uhd. Especially considering how anemic the bass was in The Last Jedi.

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I probably watch this movie 4x already in the past. But since all this pandemic stuff goin around, had to watch World War Z again. Geezus! What a ride.. and I said it before, that grenade scene is wicked. Since my kids are teens now, they have so much fun with the bass in our theater now that their older. My daughter had me repeat that scene 3x. She just laughs. Then she tells me, “Dad! Are we gonna end up falling down to the garage with all that weight of speakers and huge black boxes with all that shaking?” “Getting kinda scary!” Then I tell her, “I don’t know, after this movie let’s watch Under Water next and see what happens!” Lol
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that grenade scene is so interesting, the grenade blast right before sounds pretty pedestrian but then you get this crazy warbly grenade effect and it really surprises people when they first see it. There's a couple of movies with that warble effect and I love it. Tomb raider when she jumps across the pit in the end and oblivion when he drops from his wire back into the pit. I'm sure there's more instances of this(pulse? sustained warble for sure) but that's what I can think of off the top of my head
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that grenade scene is so interesting, the grenade blast right before sounds pretty pedestrian but then you get this crazy warbly grenade effect and it really surprises people when they first see it. There's a couple of movies with that warble effect and I love it. Tomb raider when she jumps across the pit in the end and oblivion when he drops from his wire back into the pit. I'm sure there's more instances of this(pulse? sustained warble for sure) but that's what I can think of off the top of my head
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that grenade scene is so interesting, the grenade blast right before sounds pretty pedestrian but then you get this crazy warbly grenade effect and it really surprises people when they first see it. There's a couple of movies with that warble effect and I love it. Tomb raider when she jumps across the pit in the end and oblivion when he drops from his wire back into the pit. I'm sure there's more instances of this(pulse? sustained warble for sure) but that's what I can think of off the top of my head
Yeah the WWZ Hand grenade scene is always a fun one to show of the system!




One of the original "bass drop" scenes was Ironhide's slow motion flip in Transformers, similar sound to the WWZ scene - though higher in frequency (30-50Hz range) It makes my windows shake hard at Ref level!!! Probably less likely to result in port chuffing to compared to the WWZ scene too


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Yeah the WWZ Hand grenade scene is always a fun one to show of the system!




One of the original "bass drop" scenes was Ironhide's slow motion flip in Transformers, similar sound to the WWZ scene - though higher in frequency (30-50Hz range) It makes my windows shake hard at Ref level!!! Probably less likely to result in port chuffing to compared to the WWZ scene too

yes! how could i forget about transformers one! it's definitely not as intense but still a great effect nonetheless. is bass drop the official term for this type of sound effect?
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... is bass drop the official term for this type of sound effect?
I don't have access to either of the disks in question, but based on your description of "bass drop" I'm thinking that the "official term" for it is "booj". First time I saw/heard the term was in Episode 124 of a podcast called Imaginary Worlds. They in turn were doing a story on the podcast Twenty Thousand Hertz, ep 62, titled: "The Booj". But just because I heard it there first doesn't mean it started there. I have no idea who first coined the term.

The episode in question was about the evolution of movie trailers. And as you can imagine, the booj plays a big part in that, and is also used a lot in the movies themselves. And as they point out in the podcasts, people alternately call a booj a "bass drop" or a "sub drop".

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