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Thanks again @MrGrey ...I actually did enjoy this one, with some pleasant bass.
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Hey, guys... it looks like the original Top Gun got top treatment from the sound of Bill Hunt's 4K disc review on thedigitalbits.com...

https://thedigitalbits.com/item/top-gun-uhd

Top Gun was shot photochemically on 35 mm film (in Super 35 format) using Panavision Panaflex cameras and lenses, and was finished on film in the 2.39:1 aspect ratio. For its Ultra HD release, the original camera negative was scanned in 4K, digitally remastered, and graded for high dynamic range (this disc includes both Dolby Vision and HDR10 options). I’m not going to beat around the bush; the image quality improvement here is significant. Going back to the original 2008 Blu-ray release for comparison was actually a shocking experience—that presentation was rife with edge enhancement, compression artifacting, even encoding errors. (And keep in mind, at the time, we all thought it was pretty good—I reviewed it here. It’s amazing to me, looking back, to consider just how far the state of the art in home theater image quality has come.) The whole Blu-ray presentation had an unfortunate “digital” appearance. Well, no more.

The 4K scan offers a dramatic increase in both fine detail and texturing, all of it much tighter and refined looking (save for the odd shot that’s optically soft). Given the film’s use of the Super 35 process, you’d expect to see grain and it’s definitely here, but it’s natural looking, moderate, and never distracting. (And by film grain, I don’t mean a DNR scrubbed image with static digital grain added back in—this is the real deal). Colors are now more naturally saturated and vibrant, but with added nuance and subtlety. Blacks are inky-dark but never look crushed. The brightest areas of the frame are just eye-reactive without appearing too hot or blown out (max luminance is 4,000 nits per the disc’s metadata). This is a beautiful and cinematic film image. I think the best way to describe it is that the film looks its vintage without showing its age. And that’s exactly what you want from a release like this.

As good as the new 4K image is though, the new English Dolby Atmos mix is even better. Paramount has been responsible for some fantastic surround sound mixes over the years, and this one is no exception. The soundstage is big, wide, and constantly immersive. It’s vertically large now too, with the addition of the height channels. Top Gun has always had an unapologetically aggressive surround mix, but it's smoother and more fluid here. Over the opening credits, the sound of jet engines, music, and radio coms filters in from every direction. Afterburners have real muscular punch and plenty of rumbling bass. You can almost feel the Faltermeyer score pulsing in your chest.

Even the quiet moments have pleasing atmospherics, which get much more aggressive in action scenes. During air combat in particular, when you’re looking at in-the-cockpit shots you can hear the hiss of airflow and targeting instrumentation as kind of a close-in bubble of sound from all around, even above. This opens up dramatically when you’re outside the cockpit—the whole sound space swirls around you as the fighters roll and dive. Jets engines pan in from behind and above as enemy aircraft fly into view on screen, then move around the soundstage with the imagery, and pan away again. Clarity is impressive as hell. This is straight-up great Dolby Atmos.


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Got around to watching Underwater and that movie delivered some great low bass! Thanks to all for the recommend!
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Looks like the Full Resident Evil franchise 4k coming - pulled from bluray.com [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/IMG]
The atmos tracks on 2 released so far are great

There will be a Resident Evil 6-film Collection 4K box set coming in Italy in October including:
Resident Evil (2002)
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Resident Evil: Afterlife (2010)
Resident Evil: Retribution (2012)
Resident Evil: The Final Chapter (2017)
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this link dont work and no info. On this anywhere on the net?
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Hey, guys... it looks like the original Top Gun got top treatment from the sound of Bill Hunt's 4K disc review on thedigitalbits.com
Great write up, but...it's still Top Gun, bleh!
I'm sure it'll be great, but I'll never know; never did like that movie even as a kid when it came out. It's my friend's favorite movie of all time, and I just don't get that.
However, I have watched some pretty bad movies in the name of scientific acoustic experimentation, just don't know if I can bring myself to do it with this one.

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Great write up, but...it's still Top Gun, bleh!
I'm sure it'll be great, but I'll never know; never did like that movie even as a kid when it came out. It's my friend's favorite movie of all time, and I just don't get that.
However, I have watched some pretty bad movies in the name of scientific acoustic experimentation, just don't know if I can bring myself to do it with this one.
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Anyone got a graph for War of the Worlds 4K Atmos? Curious to know how the LFE compares to the BluRay (and even the DTS track on the DVD).
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Don't sleep on Resident Evil: Afterlife in Dolby Atmos, guys... it may not be a heavy hitter but it brings the goods and the mayhem, especially in the first 15 min!

Check out what Blu-ray.com's Martin Liebman has to say about it...

Resident Evil: Afterlife's UHD release features a Dolby Atmos soundtrack and it makes for a quality upgrade from the previous release's excellent DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 lossless presentation. The track is stunning, a symphony of action and violence, a barrage of sound that's perfectly defined, refined, and capable of sweeping and swooping through the listing area with amazing precision. Pretty much everything the track has to offer can be heard in the first 15 minutes. The film begins with widely dispersed, airy notes that slowly build towards heavier electronic pulses and deeper notes that play with seamless stage presence -- width, depth, and height -- that's the norm for music throughout the film. Things get exciting, fast. Guns blast and bullets zip and impact surfaces and shatter glass with amazing volume, rush, energy, and sense of place.

Shots ring out from all corners, glass seems to spill in from every direction, bodies fall, swords swing: it's sonic chaos refined. A loudspeaker announcement seems to emanate directly above the listener and filters through the stage with a natural diffusion, an early film and terrific example of what Atmos can bring to a movie watching experience. Alices zip down a shaft with razor-sharp clarity. A wave of destruction pushes through the stage at the 14:50 mark, sending a seriously deep and obviously moving shock through the listening area. It's mayhem made precise and in every action scene the track always seems to outdo itself, to bring something new to the experience. Rounded out by well prioritized and positioned dialogue, Sony's latest Atmos presentation is a beast of a listen that will dazzle those with the ability to hear it in all its added channel glory.


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Better than Retribution? Love that one
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It's very close, but I think Afterlife pulls ahead in the bass dept. and the fact that the UHD has Dolby Atmos!
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It's very close, but I think Afterlife pulls ahead in the bass dept. and the fact that the UHD has Dolby Atmos!
Resident Evil: Final Chapter is the top dog (audio wise) in series - new Atmos track is one of the best out there
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Afterlife still takes it in the bass dept., unless you BEQ.


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Don't sleep on Resident Evil: Afterlife in Dolby Atmos, guys... it may not be a heavy hitter but it brings the goods and the mayhem, especially in the first 15 min!

Check out what Blu-ray.com's Martin Liebman has to say about it...

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I love all of the Resident Evil films! Easy double dip for me.
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Thanks @SuperFist for the Rhythm Section. Great flick with some good bass. Enjoyed this one.
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Watched Public Enemies tonight - hadn’t watched it since the Blu came out in 2012. It had some great bass moments, especially during the shootouts and some in the score. Unfortunately, the film is so uneven in its audio mix, mostly when it comes to dialogue reproduction. As a huge fan of Michael Mann, I find it hard to believe this was intended, but you never know. Also, the choice the choice to shoot it digitally was a bit distracting. Maybe a UHD would fix these problems. Still a good movie, but not Mann’s best.

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It's very close, but I think Afterlife pulls ahead in the bass dept. and the fact that the UHD has Dolby Atmos!
Interesting. Afterlife is probably my least favorite RE audio mix. I like the opening act, but I'm not a fan of the rest of it. Maybe it has to do with the movie is my least favorite RE film as well. I'm taking about the regular BD, don't have the ATMOS track. But looking at the heat map, it does seem to have lots of bass. I might give it a spin, RE movies are fun.

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Interesting. Afterlife is probably my least favorite RE audio mix. I like the opening act, but I'm not a fan of the rest of it. Maybe it has to do with the movie is my least favorite RE film as well. I'm taking about the regular BD, don't have the ATMOS track. But looking at the heat map, it does seem to have lots of bass. I might give it a spin, RE movies are fun.
It was also a major, blatant, substandard rip off of The Matrix in many of its action sequences so it's understandable why some won't want to revisit it. However, my favorite fights involve the giant axe, Pyramid Head type dudes.
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Hardcore Henry (2015)

This movie is bonkers, on all levels. I bough it for the bass, stayed for the insane action. This movie was brought up a handful of times in the old bass thread, with mixed reviews, and overall it didn't seem to draw much interest, probably due to it's filming style. I didn't have any issue following the action, even with subtitles, but I know some have issue with the POV style. But the action, man! This movie is a must-see for any action junkie. It's crazy. But you're here for the bass, right?
@MOberhardt in the BEQ thread, recently brought back some attention to the movie, putting it in the category of bass monsters. And he's not wrong, because it delivers bass in spades, both it quantity an variety. For a 5.1 mix, this audio track is exceptional, and constantly makes use of all channels, with great directionality and precision. You're IN the movie practically at all times thanks to the immersive audio. This is great stuff!

If the action and audio are not enough for you, the film is also hilarious. It's very violent for sure, but it also has a very quirky sense of humor. I knew Sharlto Copley from other movies, but this one made me a fan of him. He's terrific in here. The storyline is absolutely crazy, but also incredibly fun. As you can tell, I enjoyed this movie A LOT. There's a marketing blurb in the cover that puts this movie in the same category as Mad Max: Fury Road. They're completely different movies, but the action in both is so crazy and exciting that guarantees multiple viewings. In that sense, they do belong in the same category, great audio included.

Like I said, the POV filming style could be a deal breaker for some, if you can't get into it. I find the fast editing of the Bourne movies, the Taken movies or some Resident Evil ones a lot more distracting and hard to follow than Hardcore Henry, but I don't know. I can only give this movie my highest recommendation. It's just so much fun.

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Hardcore Henry (2015)

This movie is bonkers, on all levels. I bough it for the bass, stayed for the insane action. This movie was brought up a handful of times in the old bass thread, with mixed reviews, and overall it didn't seem to draw much interest, probably due to it's filming style. I didn't have any issue following the action, even with subtitles, but I know some have issue with the POV style. But the action, man! This movie is a must-see for any action junkie. It's crazy. But you're here for the bass, right?
@MOberhardt in the BEQ thread, recently brought back some attention to the movie, putting it in the category of bass monsters. And he's not wrong, because it delivers bass in spades, both it quantity an variety. For a 5.1 mix, this audio track is exceptional, and constantly makes use of all channels, with great directionality and precision. You're IN the movie practically at all times thanks to the immersive audio. This is great stuff!

If the action and audio are not enough for you, the film is also hilarious. It's very violent for sure, but it also has a very quirky sense of humor. I knew Sharlto Copley from other movies, but this one made me a fan of him. He's terrific in here. The storyline is absolutely crazy, but also incredibly fun. As you can tell, I enjoyed this movie A LOT. There's a marketing blurb in the cover that puts this movie in the same category as Mad Max: Fury Road. They're completely different movies, but the action in both is so crazy and exciting that guarantees multiple viewings. In that sense, they do belong in the same category, great audio included.

Like I said, the POV filming style could be a deal breaker for some, if you can't get into it. I find the fast editing of the Bourne movies, the Taken movies or some Resident Evil ones a lot more distracting and hard to follow than Hardcore Henry, but I don't know. I can only give this movie my highest recommendation. It's just so much fun.

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Thanks bud! I can't express enough what an unexpected delight this movie was in so many many ways . Firstly just from it being a movie I avoided due to bad word on it, and to see it the first time and just having a grin glued to my face the entire time from enjoyment at so many levels.

Right out the gate you realize, oh gee the LFE, starting with the heartbeat, and then all throughout, it was incessant tactile bass. And all gunshots explosions, impacts etc, not score. It was incredible.

And from a film making perspective, just unbelievable. It is lower res image
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And the story and script was fantastic and hilarious. Sharlto Copeley was just incredible, even more overboard than his Murdock in A-Team. But even some unspoken stuff was hilarious like the whole horse scene with the western music playing, or even some of the over the top violence with bodies flying getting blown uo, or that last rooftop scene with Queen playing. I was laughing so much but feeling king of bad as it was just so xxxxed up!!!

But the non stop tactile LFE was unparalleled.

Oh my gosh I love this movie. After I saw it I found out there was a German Blu Ray with Atmos so I bought that.,
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This movie is bonkers, on all levels. I bough it for the bass, stayed for the insane action. This movie was brought up a handful of times in the old bass thread, with mixed reviews, and overall it didn't seem to draw much interest, probably due to it's filming style. I didn't have any issue following the action, even with subtitles, but I know some have issue with the POV style. But the action, man! This movie is a must-see for any action junkie. It's crazy. But you're here for the bass, right?
@MOberhardt in the BEQ thread, recently brought back some attention to the movie, putting it in the category of bass monsters. And he's not wrong, because it delivers bass in spades, both it quantity an variety. For a 5.1 mix, this audio track is exceptional, and constantly makes use of all channels, with great directionality and precision. You're IN the movie practically at all times thanks to the immersive audio. This is great stuff!

If the action and audio are not enough for you, the film is also hilarious. It's very violent for sure, but it also has a very quirky sense of humor. I knew Sharlto Copley from other movies, but this one made me a fan of him. He's terrific in here. The storyline is absolutely crazy, but also incredibly fun. As you can tell, I enjoyed this movie A LOT. There's a marketing blurb in the cover that puts this movie in the same category as Mad Max: Fury Road. They're completely different movies, but the action in both is so crazy and exciting that guarantees multiple viewings. In that sense, they do belong in the same category, great audio included.

Like I said, the POV filming style could be a deal breaker for some, if you can't get into it. I find the fast editing of the Bourne movies, the Taken movies or some Resident Evil ones a lot more distracting and hard to follow than Hardcore Henry, but I don't know. I can only give this movie my highest recommendation. It's just so much fun.
You really need to hear the Dolby Atmos soundtrack!
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Thanks @SuperFist for the Rhythm Section. Great flick with some good bass. Enjoyed this one.
I am just the opposite. While it did have some good bass and had my seat buzzing quite a bit, the story just wasn't told very well for me.
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There is more but the story telling definitely rubbed me wrong. The pace of the movie didn't hold me. The action sequences came across to me as aspiring to be bad Bourne Identity action sequence ripoffs. It wasn't the worst movie I have ever saw. There was enough interest in there for me wanting more and the lack of it not being fulfilled ruined it for me.

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Got done watching Underwater. While the movie itself came across as standard fare horror movie, the soundmix is top notch even as 7.1 DTS HD. The neural upmix my receiver did challenges some of the best Atmos mixes I have ever heard. The dynamics aside from the incredible bass is excellent. Now that incredible bass! It started off strong and continued through out making me hear a lot of my house scaring me it was about to collapse on top of me. There were steady rhythm beats that hit hard enough it felt like it was messing with my heart beat. Have any of you ever drove down the interstate on a windy day and rolled down just the rear passenger window to get some breeze and not encounter a bunch of wind noise you would get rolling down driver side window? You know that wobble sound you can get that feels like trying to pull your eardrum out? At one point I even got that! I want to stress I wasn't doing anything crazy with my setup. My equipment is listed below. Receiver settings are Audyssey from when I added my external amp and extra pair of speakers for 7.3.4. Subs set where I calibrated them to so when Audyssey ran it would set them at -11. DEQ was on and volume set to -10. Nothing more, no BEQ, no running subs extra hot, just a basic setup with half decent equipment and a properly mixed soundtrack. I can not say enough good things about this mix!

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Looks like Ralph’s review of War of the Worlds shows the LFE was neutered during the pod scene
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You really need to hear the Dolby Atmos soundtrack!
Most definitely! I just wish the ATMOS track was included in the US release, I don't understand why they didn't do it. I'll have to import the European edition at some point, as I'm not ATMOS capable yet.

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Looks like Ralph’s review of War of the Worlds shows the LFE was neutered during the pod scene
Lmao. I can't wait to graphic this. It's funny how last night it came to mind that i might have to mux the 5.1 to the UHD or just let it die and move on with my BD disc. Nothing worse than ruining a great 15 year old mix. But let's see what the graph shows before going too crazy.

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Hey Super, sorry if I missed this somewhere, but is there a graph that shows the FR difference between the DVD version of WotW and the Blu-ray DTS-HD verison?

If I remuxed my Bluray copy with your provided file, would I still want to apply BEQ settings from the BEQ thread or no?



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Look at this post: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/showt...php?p=58582182

I don't remember anyone doing a proper graph of the DTS DVD audio. If you want to BEQ, use the DTS-MA. Most people BEQ capable would rather have the lossless over the lossy track, especially because most watch from disc. The DTS mix is hotter, so you'd need a specific BEQ for it.

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I've now cancelled my pre-order. So glad it didn't ship early.
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