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01:19:00 into the movie is one of the most well acted, gut and heart wrenching scenes I've ever experienced in a movie! it gets me every single time.

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...As noted, in your post, it is a good idea to always try to keep subwoofer AVR trims in the negative range--ideally at least -3 to -5. But, as I understand that, and as I quote some audio experts as saying in the subwoofer guide linked below, that is because you specifically want the voltage which powers your subs to come from the subwoofer amp and not from the AVR amp. The higher your AVR trim level is (and particularly above about -3) the more it is your AVR amp which is powering the subwoofer. Keeping the AVR trim level low for the subs, and using the subwoofer gain control to increase the sub boost, keeps the signal cleaner and helps to prevent clipping or other issues.

But, the situation is different for the regular channels. They are actually supposed to be powered by the AVR (or by an appropriate external amp) and there is nothing inherently wrong with having positive trim levels for those channels. This isn't really something that is subject to user control anyway. It will depend entirely on the relative sensitivity of the speakers, and on their distance from the MLP. When an AVR runs a calibration routine, using a 75db test signal, it will measure the FR of each speaker as it is at the MLP. And, it will set trim levels accordingly.

With a sub, if you don't like your trim levels, and want them to be deeper into the negative range, you can easily get them there by raising the gain control on your sub. That will increase the measured SPL of the sub and cause the automated calibration program to set a lower corresponding AVR trim level. But, we don't have a separate amplifier to allow us to do that with our regular channels, so our AVR trim levels for those channels are whatever they are. And, that is usually fine.

In my room, for instance, one pair of my speakers are (deliberately) 21' away from my MLP. There is no way, that I am getting solidly negative trim settings from that distance. But, that's okay. As long as I exercise reasonable bass management, I still have plenty of headroom to play as loudly as I want to. People who really want to play at Reference (0.0 MV) or higher, need to be mindful of both good bass management protocols and of the sensitivity of their speakers. But, for the vast majority of HT systems (and users), Reference volumes will be much too loud anyway, and the speakers will be perfectly capable of playing with sufficient headroom, even at positive trim levels.

Again, the whole positive/negative trim level dichotomy is based on the advisability of using subwoofer amplifiers for the subs, rather than AVR amplifiers, and it applies only to the subs. Of course, if someone has excessively high trim levels for the regular channels, and is exceeding their capabilities, then larger, more sensitive speakers may be required. Horn speakers are especially capable of producing high SPL, for instance.

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Hmm.. I'll take HSR and WW with Dolby ATMOS to go please! Thanks MrGrey!
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So yeah, based on the recommendations of the fine people in this thread, I got 3 movies in the mail and immediately watched them...

Wonder Woman (4K Steelbook)
Jupiter Ascending 4K
Blade Runner 4K

Yes, yes, and yes!! All 3 are winners, but on my particular system and calibration, Jupiter Ascending sounded particularly jaw-dropping

Thanks for all the work graphing, Mr Grey!!
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Finally popped in Wonder Woman and man that movie had my sub singing!


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Finally popped in Wonder Woman and man that movie had my sub singing!
If by "singing" you mean "blowing the roof off the house" then I had a very similar experience.
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I put the Wonder Woman BD on last night and was blown away by both the movie and the bass. Great movie.
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If by "singing" you mean "blowing the roof off the house" then I had a very similar experience.
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I put the Wonder Woman BD on last night and was blown away by both the movie and the bass. Great movie.
Holy cow! After only watching the first 45 minutes on Tuesday, I'm finally finishing Wonder Woman. Initially, I honestly wondered what all the bass hype was about, as the first hour is lacking (much like Hacksaw Ridge). However, as soon as they arrive at "no man's land", the bass is plentiful, extremely loud, but also very well done. I'm consistently getting peaks of 118-120dB! This is watching at -5mv with subs +10dB hot.

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Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015) Graph

This movie has a 4K Digital Intermediate and Dolby Vision -
so hopefully Disney announces the 4K release soon.

There is bass down to 5hz-10hz.

This was previously graphed but like a few
movies it was with the newer software off by around 5 or so dB.


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13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi (2016) Graph

This movie will test your system for sure!


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I saw this in IMAX and it was a fun. my sister loved it.

Chappie has the most realistic and well integrated CGI Robot/ Main Character to date!!


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I've always meant to see this movie, but I actually forgot about it until you mentioned it here!

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Lol, true.Holy cow! After only watching the first 45 minutes on Tuesday, I'm finally finishing Wonder Woman. Initially, I honestly wondered what all the bass hype was about, as the first hour is lacking (much like Hacksaw Ridge). However, as soon as they arrive at "no man's land", the bass is plentiful, extremely loud, but also very well done. I'm consistently getting peaks of 118-120dB! This is watching at -5mv with subs +10dB hot.
This is good news! All this talk about Wonder Woman having great bass is good to hear. I saw it in the theater and felt like it would be a great addition to my movie collection as long as the mixers did their job and mixed it well. I'm happy to hear they did the movie justice. I really liked the movie so I'm definitely picking it up.
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This is good news! All this talk about Wonder Woman having great bass is good to hear. I saw it in the theater and felt like it would be a great addition to my movie collection as long as the mixers did their job and mixed it well. I'm happy to hear they did the movie justice. I really liked the movie so I'm definitely picking it up.
I thought the bass was fantastic as well Hop! Watched it last night along with Power Rangers. Felt like I had been beat up with bass after this double header.
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The new Pirates of th Caribbean was a fun Audio/visual experience. Got it on Friday - will probably watch again in 3D sometime this week.
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The Dead Room definitely brought the goods. Opening scene, even. Found another picture that rattles.

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Rouge One was great. I could feel my pants flap with the bass and that was on Netflix.

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I thought the bass was fantastic as well Hop! Watched it last night along with Power Rangers. Felt like I had been beat up with bass after this double header.
Thanks Toe that's awesome to hear. I think I'll pick it up tomorrow. I've been looking forward to this movie being released since the day I saw it in the theater.
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I was very, very impressed with the sound on King Arthur. I know the critics hated the movie, but they loved Get Out.

The sound alone is enough to love this movie. Some of the best Atmos surround I have ever heard, and yeah pretty good bass too. Not like the classic heavy hitters, but very enjoyable bass. Very impactful and never boomy and got my seat and room shaking pretty good. I was startled more than once by surround sound effects.
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I was very, very impressed with the sound on King Arthur. I know the critics hated the movie, but they loved Get Out.

The sound alone is enough to love this movie. Some of the best Atmos surround I have ever heard, and yeah pretty good bass too. Not like the classic heavy hitters, but very enjoyable bass. Very impactful and never boomy and got my seat and room shaking pretty good. I was startled more than once by surround sound effects.
Because Get Out was actually a really good movie. king Arthur was just flashy and ok with a nice track.

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My point was to say how great I thought the overall sound was on King Arthur. I should have left out the Get Out opinion.
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Hi All,
Great thread!!!
I might be late to the party but watched Transformers The Last Knight last night with friends and family. Great Movie and All agreed much better then the last 2 movies. A lot of fun to watch The Bass throbbed the air in my room with this film. I don't know where it was hitting but it was a bass movie in my room. Looking forward to Wonder Woman you all are raving about sometime this week and soon the movie The Dead Room as well.
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Great thread!!!
I might be late to the party but watched Transformers The Last Knight last night
I laughed out loud, is that the sequel
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Great thread!!!
I might be late to the party but watched Transformers The Last Knight last night
I laughed out loud, is that the sequel
Yes, it is... and I'm willing to bet that Chris didn't even write it that way on purpose!

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i'm sorry but i thought Get Out was overrated. Still a good movie but just overrated IMHO.

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