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AHS:CULT has really good bass.

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I just got the new transformers in the other day, so will give it a spin this weekend. Looks like WW is getting good reviews, so I have just added it to my cart
Transformers: The Last Knight has a ton of excellent, extremely tactile, 20 - 40Hz scenes. The bass itself is consistently deeper, and IMO, better mixed than all the prior films, similar in style but better in every way.

As impressive as the recent Wonder Woman was with its nuanced, explosive bass, Transformers: TLK offers a different type of non-stop, sine wave like bass experience...free massage, yes please!

Now from a film standpoint, Wonder Woman is so much better, it's difficult to put into words. Transformers: TLK is barely watchable in regards to plot/acting, but it does have phenomenal special effects/eye candy. I fell asleep a number of times watching it at reference only to be repeatedly awoken by absurd amounts of bass...I work nights so am sometimes groggy during the day. Even drifting in and out of the movie, I didn't feel I had missed an ounce of what story was there.

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Man of Steel may not go as low as WW, but has waaaay more tactile bass moments, those graphs just don't tell the whole story, and most rooms/subs aren't gonna hear/feel those frequencies under 20hz anyway, let's just be honest here.

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Is it true?17 hz frequency sounds louder? as far as I know,17hz sound is for feeling, no?
Maybe your sub producing 2nd harmonic distortion
You're correct. I was mistaken. I haven't ran it in a while and what I remembered was the walls shaking and rattling, not the sub producing a loud tone. There is a little bit of audible tone, but not much. I ran one of the 17hz tests on youtube last night.
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Transformers: The Last Knight has a ton of excellent, extremely tactile, 20 - 40Hz scenes. The bass itself is consistently deeper, and IMO, better mixed than all the prior films, similar in style but better in every way.

As impressive as the recent Wonder Woman was with its nuanced, explosive bass, Transformers: TLK offers a different type of non-stop, sine wave like bass experience...free massage, yes please!

Now from a film standpoint, Wonder Woman is so much better, it's difficult to put into words. Transformers: TLK is barely watchable in regards to plot/acting, but it does have phenomenal special effects/eye candy. I fell asleep a number of times watching it at reference only to be repeatedly awoken by absurd amounts of bass...I work nights so am sometimes groggy during the day. Even drifting in and out of the movie, I didn't feel I had missed an ounce of what story was there.

Hahaha... Yes! While I truly feel that Wonder Woman is pretty much the perfect movie for me, and it helps that I'm quite taken with Gal Gadot , but Transformers: The Last Knight had me interested in the beginning, however, after several eye rolls later, I was falling asleep on the couch and counting down the time when it would be over. I mean, I love how they made these CGI robots look truly real, but I just check out when it comes to the storyline. I just tried to enjoy the bass, but to be honest, after awhile even that started to irritate me!
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I just watched Man of Steel again tonight, it's just ridiculous audio all around, top 10 in bass, for sure.
WW has some great bass moments, but not a top 10, imo.
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Have you ever measured your response at your seating position? WW plays both louder and lower with a similar but deeper average level as well. In my room WW is a much better bass movie.
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Sound aside, how is Life as a whole?
Here is the breakdown: sound: 50%, visuals: 25%, everything else: 25%. This was one of the best tracks of last year, top five at the very least, I would say, so earns all 50 points there. But, leaving sound aside, you got the visuals which earn another 25 points. Everything else -- acting -- A rated, plot, well-worn, but what you gonna do? -- editing, etc -- give it 20 out of those 25 points.

So 95 total score -- well recommended. So happy to have entertainment at this high a level. Should the creature specialist have played with the thing? Probably ill-advised, for certain, but to fault that microscopic aspect in the mounting of this awesome production, and conclude it is not worthy of your time -- hey, to each his own -- you want to feel cheated after watching something that occupies the top echelon of entertainments? -- not saying the following to be provocative at all, but I truly feel sorry for those persons -- maybe don't spend too much time watching anything -- life is too short to increase your misery by wasting your time on stuff you can't enjoy.

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I would suggest renting Life and go from there. One watch was plenty for me even with the great A/V. Glad I didn't buy it!
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I would suggest renting Life and go from there. One watch was plenty for me even with the great A/V. Glad I didn't buy it!
I agree. I thought it was worth seeing but I'm happy I rented it because I don't see myself watching it again. Maybe sometime years from now but I'm happy it's not taking up space on my shelf. But movies are subjective so we all must decide for ourselves.
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If a subwoofer is producing 17 Hz with any authority, the house will be creating distortions and harmonics. It's felt at 17 Hz. The rattles and harmonics are heard.
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You're correct. I was mistaken. I haven't ran it in a while and what I remembered was the walls shaking and rattling, not the sub producing a loud tone. There is a little bit of audible tone, but not much. I ran one of the 17hz tests on youtube last night.

any audible sound bellow 20 hz is harmonic, People can't hear much bellow 20hz because of nature.
maybe I have to ask god(nature) for move my ear drum system and change it like SeaWhales
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We can hear below 20hz but it has to be much louder.
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I would suggest renting Life and go from there. One watch was plenty for me even with the great A/V. Glad I didn't buy it!
Yeah, I was doing that for a time -- renting with a notion to possibly buy, but of course I was only renting movies I wanted to own, or had good reason to suspect I would. Then I'm just adding rental cost onto the purchase price, and the thrill of first view was removed. So no more rent, buy if I want to see. So have literally thousands of blu-rays. Could most of them go? -- no more replay value? Yeah, no doubt...but LIFE is something I have to have -- it delivers force in the track which is beyond an equal I can summon to recollect, so need it for demo -- mostly to myself, if truth be told -- happy acquisition for me, bolted me straight up in my listening position within about the first five minutes. YMMV, as always....
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We can hear below 20hz but it has to be much louder.
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Yes, this is why I run ported really low as it provides a natural house curve(elevated SPL levels) at the frequencies that need to be louder than say 30hz. I really like the way it sounds and especially feels.
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Have you ever measured your response at your seating position? WW plays both louder and lower with a similar but deeper average level as well. In my room WW is a much better bass movie.
I have not, all I've done is run Audyssey on my x4300h (and I bumped my subs up about 6dB after calibration). So for all I know, my subs might not be in the optimal positions for my room (even though I placed them 1/4 width distance from each wall, based on AVS member recommendations), and my room is ~6000 cubic ft and open to stairs w/bannister (the reason I purchased 2 V3601 subs). I sit ~8 ft from my tv and probably ~10 ft from each sub.

Based on my most recent memory of both films, I was more impressed overall with the MoS soundtrack, bass and atmos. It just seemed to be an almost constant assault of all around sound. Don't get me wrong, my wife, who only watched Wonder Woman with me, looked at me, saying "I know you're loving this." which I was; being on a suspended floor I get ridiculous tactile response from almost anything intense, even violins and voices....but there were only a few scenes in WW that stand out in my mind as really awesome LFE wise (the bracelet scene, the battlefield assault, and the final battle). In MoS, it was just non-stop extended bass scenes.....spaceships, lasers, guns, fights, explosions, etc..... even Superman taking off each time had great bass. The first page of this thread puts both WW and MoS in the "Demo Scene Films" category, but I feel MoS has many more bass moments, maybe not as low as WW but just more bass overall..............has everyone in this thread chiming in on their WW preference watched the 4K uhd disc version of MoS? Because it is definitely better than the blu-ray version sound-wise. Regardless, I will watch WW again (1st world problems), probably tonight, to solidify my opinion.

Another movie many people said had awesome bass but I didn't think did, was Kong: Skull Island.....I was underwhelmed overall, and I wondered if it was just my setup because I was looking forward to this and it ended up being a bit disappointing to me in the bass department..... but I assumed it was just the movie, because all the top bass movies in this thread give my subs a true workout. I know I probably need the Umik and REW, right? Any other measurement equipment I need? Not trying to go broke getting it either. I obviously would like to optimize my space and equipment.

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@tbass2k , you'll also definitely want to add a boom mic stand to the list (~$20 or so for Prime); this will ensure even more accurate readings that could otherwise be skewed by vibrations picked up by whatever you would have mounted the UMIK to
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I have not, all I've done is run Audyssey on my x4300h (and I bumped my subs up about 6dB after calibration). So for all I know, my subs might not be in the optimal positions for my room (even though I placed them 1/4 width distance from each wall, based on AVS member recommendations), and my room is ~6000 cubic ft and open to stairs w/bannister (the reason I purchased 2 V3601 subs). I sit ~8 ft from my tv and probably ~10 ft from each sub.

Based on my most recent memory of both films, I was more impressed overall with the MoS soundtrack, bass and atmos. It just seemed to be an almost constant assault of all around sound. Don't get me wrong, my wife, who only watched Wonder Woman with me, looked at me, saying "I know you're loving this." which I was; being on a suspended floor I get ridiculous tactile response from almost anything intense, even violins and voices....but there were only a few scenes in WW that stand out in my mind as really awesome LFE wise (the bracelet scene, the battlefield assault, and the final battle). In MoS, it was just non-stop extended bass scenes.....spaceships, lasers, guns, fights, explosions, etc..... even Superman taking off each time had great bass. The first page of this thread puts both WW and MoS in the "Demo Scene Films" category, but I feel MoS has many more bass moments, maybe not as low as WW but just more bass overall..............has everyone in this thread chiming in on their WW preference watched the 4K uhd disc version of MoS? Because it is definitely better than the blu-ray version sound-wise. Regardless, I will watch WW again (1st world problems), probably tonight, to solidify my opinion.

Another movie many people said had awesome bass but I didn't think did, was Kong: Skull Island.....I was underwhelmed overall, and I wondered if it was just my setup because I was looking forward to this and it ended up being a bit disappointing to me in the bass department..... but I assumed it was just the movie, because all the top bass movies in this thread give my subs a true workout. I know I probably need the Umik and REW, right? Any other measurement equipment I need? Not trying to go broke getting it either. I obviously would like to optimize my space and equipment.

Just a UMIK and a computer, REW comes free. My UMIK is down 12-13 dB at 5hz without any cal files under 10hz. The graphs don't lie, WW is both louder and deeper than MoS and also slightly better average which takes into account all bass in the movie. Of course bass has to be present in a scene to matter and when a movie is dialog you won't get much bass with it unless they are next to a train or something. WW has much more weight to the bass and more pressure for sure in my room. I do like MoS as a movie as Superman has always been my favorite comic hero. It has lots of bass but the audio or bass should not change from the core to atmos. If someone can graph the UHD vs bluray and it shows the UHD much better I will buy it now.

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some people follow house curve technique(Including me) some people don't, just flat technique. Not sure which one is most accurate and not in accurate for what.
I follow house curve because I need more punch for low stuffs.
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Just a UMIK and a computer, REW comes free. My UMIK is down 12-13 dB at 5hz without any cal files under 10hz. The graphs don't lie, WW is both louder and deeper than MoS and also slightly better average which takes into account all bass in the movie. Of course bass has to be present in a scene to matter and when a movie is dialog you won't get much bass with it unless they are next to a train or something. WW has much more weight to the bass and more pressure for sure in my room. I do like MoS as a movie as Superman has always been my favorite comic hero. It has lots of bass but the audio or bass should not change from the core to atmos. If someone can graph the UHD vs bluray and it shows the UHD much better I will buy it now.
Thanks, I'm going to order the UMIK, btw, the Wonder Woman graph was for the Dolby Atmos track, the Man of Steel was probably graphed from the dts-hd blu-ray track, not the Dolby Atmos UHD track; so we are not talking about going from a core to Atmos track on this one. I truly wonder if the graphs would be different, @MrGrey , can you do this?
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some people follow house curve technique(Including me) some people don't, just flat technique. Not sure which one is most accurate and not in accurate for what.
I follow house curve because I need more punch for low stuffs.

It makes a huge difference in bass, 12 dB more is like having 4 more subs at that frequency! When I ran sealed I needed no EQ or boost to be flat to 3hz. I then ran an LT which ended up being 12 dB more at 5hz and it was so powerful except it kept tripping my 20 amp breaker with a clone amp. I then ported my subs and now I never clip an Inuke 6000!

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It makes a huge difference in bass, 12 dB more is like having 4 more subs at that frequency! When I ran sealed I needed no EQ or boost to be flat to 3hz. I then ran an LT which ended up being 12 dB more at 5hz and it was so powerful except it kept tripping my 20 amp breaker with a clone amp. I then ported my subs and now I never clip an Inuke 6000!

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I like Elysium. It's got good bass and is an interesting story. I think you'll enjoy it.
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I just got home to find this waiting for me

...word in Ralph's 4K/UHD review is that the DTS-HD MA track is Substantially more Dynamic
on the 3D/2D Bluray than the "compressed" ATMOS track on the 4K/UHD

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/187-of...hd-review.html



Going to fire up the 3D tonite but won't have my 4K/UHD until Tuesday to compare.



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Metallica Through the Never has excellent bass.

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After finishing Transformers Last Knight I realize that the submarine scene was only a bass intro to the cybertron scene which was an absolutely continuous bass assault that lasted like 20 minutes. Amazing movie for bass.
Best Transformer reboot yet imo.
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BlomKamp3 just arrived all fresh and still new !



Some one jacked my 4k/3d/BR ghostbusters combo or the mailman stuck it in the wrong box and some one kept it.
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...Delivered the Bass in spades!
The 3D was Awesome at 9' from my 120" screen!
and the DTS-HD Audio was pretty darn impressive (up-mixed with Neural:X for 7.4.4)

Strong showing in 30Hz content average,
and enough Peak levels with 19Hz @ -13dB to keep my subs happy
It would have been nice to have a litte more extention but
I'll take a drop off after 19Hz over a 30Hz cliff all day long.

The bass was strong when and where it needed to be,
Matched the on-screen action appropriately. If I had not seen the graph,
I would have guessed the extention was a lot lower.
Felt more like mid to low teens at times.



I just may skip the double dip for 4K/HDR version on Tuesday if the ATMOS is really a compressed mess.
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