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Hi Guys,

I've the following setup:
Martin Logan Motion 40 (main)
Motion 8 (Center Channel)
B&W CCM362/6 1/2 inch ceiling speaker (for Surround)
Yamaha RX-673

Recently, we moved to our own house so I need (or I can now) add sub woofer to the system. The area is 350 sq ft with 9ft ceiling so around 3500 Cubic ft space and has a open layout because of stairs, and open kitchen. My budget is $1000-1200 USD, and sub has to look good (preferably piano black finish similar to our Motion 40). We do 50/50 movies and songs and listen to around -20db in our Yamaha AVR and I do not have space for dual sub.

Based on other forum feedback these are the good subs which fits my budget but aesthetically they do not please my wife.
1. Rythmik LVX12
2. VTF-3 MK5 /VTF-2
3. SVS PB-2000
4. PSA 15V

She does approve these two: 1. SVS SB-2000 -Piano black 2. Rythmik - FV15HP - Piano black
Rythmic FV15HP is great but is costing $1550+Shipping, and based on feedback SVS SB-2000 doesn't do a good job compared to PB-2000. Do you think I do have other choices based on the criteria ?
If not, I am thinking to try SVS SB-2000 as it is free shipping and 45 days trial period and if not happy then either need to consider Rythmik LVX12/HSU VTG-3 MK5 if I do not want to spent $1600 on Rythmik FV15HP.

Please let me know your recommendation, as not all suppliers provide free shipping and these subs are not available is nearby store to try.

Thanks,
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There are probably 20 recent threads asking the same question. Not trying to be a jerk; just saying there's lots of info on here.

I'm deciding between HSU and SVS myself...
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There are probably 20 recent threads asking the same question. Not trying to be a jerk; just saying there's lots of info on here.

I'm deciding between HSU and SVS myself...
Actually, I am new to the forum and also new to the audio system. There are so many options and material, and some are beyond my frequency () . So thought of getting specific recommendations based on my situations. Main questions is SVS SB-2000 is worth trying ?
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OK so.. I tried the PB-1000 (duals) and the PB-2000.. both have the black oak vinyl finish.. looks pretty good.. but, I also have around 3300 cubic feet and they just didn't work for me. If you're gonna listen to 50% or more of music then (like me) you will not be happy. I just got the VTF-3 MK5.. more power and output than both of those.. the black satin finish looks really good.. and to me it's much better quality as far as looks and build and sounds better. It's 85 lbs compared to the 66 lb PB-2000.
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Actually, I am new to the forum and also new to the audio system. There are so many options and material, and some are beyond my frequency () . So thought of getting specific recommendations based on my situations. Main questions is SVS SB-2000 is worth trying ?
Based on your other sub selections, probably not worth it...

You would probably need 3 SB-2000's to match the output of one Rythmik FV15HP.
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Buy the biggest sub you can afford, which with your budget means a 15" preferably. I own dual HSU VTF-3 MK5's and they are amazing. The VTF-15H MK2 is a bit nicer and still fits within your budget. The 15H MK2 has +3db more output below 22hz compared to the VTF-3 MK5, and IMO looks nicer with the triangle ports.

The Rythmik FVX15 comes in under your budget, along with the PSA 15V. Just some others to consider.
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Hi Guys,

I've the following setup:
Martin Logan Motion 40 (main)
Motion 8 (Center Channel)
B&W CCM362/6 1/2 inch ceiling speaker (for Surround)
Yamaha RX-673

Recently, we moved to our own house so I need (or I can now) add sub woofer to the system. The area is 350 sq ft with 9ft ceiling so around 3500 Cubic ft space and has a open layout because of stairs, and open kitchen. My budget is $1000-1200 USD, and sub has to look good (preferably piano black finish similar to our Motion 40). We do 50/50 movies and songs and listen to around -20db in our Yamaha AVR and I do not have space for dual sub.

Based on other forum feedback these are the good subs which fits my budget but aesthetically they do not please my wife.
1. Rythmik LVX12
2. VTF-3 MK5 /VTF-2
3. SVS PB-2000
4. PSA 15V

She does approve these two: 1. SVS SB-2000 -Piano black 2. Rythmik - FV15HP - Piano black
Rythmic FV15HP is great but is costing $1550+Shipping, and based on feedback SVS SB-2000 doesn't do a good job compared to PB-2000. Do you think I do have other choices based on the criteria ?
If not, I am thinking to try SVS SB-2000 as it is free shipping and 45 days trial period and if not happy then either need to consider Rythmik LVX12/HSU VTG-3 MK5 if I do not want to spent $1600 on Rythmik FV15HP.

Please let me know your recommendation, as not all suppliers provide free shipping and these subs are not available is nearby store to try.

Thanks,
Within the budget you have listed, the PSA 15V is your best bang for the buck or the HSU 15 inch. You ideally need duals in that size room, so may be look to add another later but as others have said go with the biggest for now
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options are good



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There are probably 20 recent threads asking the same question. Not trying to be a jerk; just saying there's lots of info on here.

I'm deciding between HSU and SVS myself...
Actually, I am new to the forum and also new to the audio system. There are so many options and material, and some are beyond my frequency () . So thought of getting specific recommendations based on my situations. Main questions is SVS SB-2000 is worth trying ?
Read FalconFan's recent treads. Lots of overlap w your questions. I've subscribed to this thread. I need to fill a basement that's like 25x24. Maybe 4500ft3
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Based on your other sub selections, probably not worth it...

You would probably need 3 SB-2000's to match the output of one Rythmik FV15HP.
More like 8 around the FV15's tuning point.
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Actually, I am new to the forum and also new to the audio system. There are so many options and material, and some are beyond my frequency () . So thought of getting specific recommendations based on my situations. Main questions is SVS SB-2000 is worth trying ?
Kind of limited in that price range for piano black. Take a look at SVS outlet.

Currently have several PB12+ in PB ($1199) and an SB13U in PB ($1199).

The PB12+ would be the better option for your space.

https://www.svsound.com/collections/...als/outlet-sub

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I would throw Seaton in the mix as well.....
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SVS, HSU or Rythmik ?

Search is our friend. Saying "I'm new" doesn't mean you can't browse threads and use teh forum search for a targeted look for "help me pick a sub."

Hsu's finish isn't gloss black, but it's not textured matte either. Can be buffed to a nice modest sheen.And the Hsu variability feature trumps some other brands that force you to choose "sealed vs. ported."

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The satin black is a nice finish on the VTF-3 MK5 and a lot easier to maintain than that piano black finish.

You won't regret it! I'm not gonna bash SVS and can't say anything bad about them but this sub is better than the PB-2000 I had and the dual PB-1000's. To me, the quality and the build appears and "feels" better but the weight of this thing.. omg! It's a bulky heavy 85 pounds!!! The finish is much better also. To me, the black satin painted finish is much nicer than black oak "vinyl".

I'm hearing nice bass on rock songs and pop songs that I didn't hear with the SVS subs. I listen to a lot of music on Pandora through the AVR on Extended Stereo mode and I'm having fun with this!
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For your space one JL Audio F113v2 will be fantastic!! It will complement your Martin Logan electrostatics bottom end seamlessly I owned Summit X and that is what I had in my set up for low frequency lack. Speaking from experience.

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I have the HSU vtf15h and I wanted a pair. After some research I discovered DIY is absolutely the better bang for the buck. If you have no skills at all you can still buy and assemble a CNC machined flatpack from partsexpress with a um18-22. If you have a bit more skills you can cut and glue a Marty sub or a vbss. I built two VBSS which uses 18" drivers to replace my HSU.

All of the subs you listed are good, it's just tweaking size and output at certain frequencies. I think hsu is the best bang for the buck in the retail arena. Otherwise I strongly suggest diy.

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Thank you guys !! Finally, I decided to try Rythmik E15HP which is $1325 on piano black finish.
Let's see how it performs. I'll get back with the feedback.
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Just updating: My E15HP is awesome, it fills the room. it is bit big but it can shake the house. Highly recommended.
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Just updating: My E15HP is awesome, it fills the room. it is bit big but it can shake the house. Highly recommended.
I Appreciate that you reported back. Glad you're satisfied.

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Hi Guys,

I've the following setup:
Martin Logan Motion 40 (main)
Motion 8 (Center Channel)
B&W CCM362/6 1/2 inch ceiling speaker (for Surround)
Yamaha RX-673

Recently, we moved to our own house so I need (or I can now) add sub woofer to the system. The area is 350 sq ft with 9ft ceiling so around 3500 Cubic ft space and has a open layout because of stairs, and open kitchen. My budget is $1000-1200 USD, and sub has to look good (preferably piano black finish similar to our Motion 40). We do 50/50 movies and songs and listen to around -20db in our Yamaha AVR and I do not have space for dual sub.

Based on other forum feedback these are the good subs which fits my budget but aesthetically they do not please my wife.
1. Rythmik LVX12
2. VTF-3 MK5 /VTF-2
3. SVS PB-2000
4. PSA 15V

She does approve these two: 1. SVS SB-2000 -Piano black 2. Rythmik - FV15HP - Piano black
Rythmic FV15HP is great but is costing $1550+Shipping, and based on feedback SVS SB-2000 doesn't do a good job compared to PB-2000. Do you think I do have other choices based on the criteria ?
If not, I am thinking to try SVS SB-2000 as it is free shipping and 45 days trial period and if not happy then either need to consider Rythmik LVX12/HSU VTG-3 MK5 if I do not want to spent $1600 on Rythmik FV15HP.

Please let me know your recommendation, as not all suppliers provide free shipping and these subs are not available is nearby store to try.

Thanks,
All the listed subs or any other quality subs would sound the same within their operating limits. So, you can buy any depending on your budget.
The defining factor is price, listening area (how big an area you want to pressurize), and WAF.

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