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post #61 of 1286 Old 02-01-2018, 09:22 PM
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I'm not aware of any 20% codes working on the Monolith subs. I think the $50 off code last week was the first discount of any kind on those 3 subs.

EDIT: The current 20% off code VS20 doesn't apply to the Monolith subs. I just checked it out.

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I just bought a pair of the 10" THX's for a 23x11 room (they're $450 each if you purchase 2 or more). You can get to the point of overanalyzing these things to death but if your goal is to simply have a full sound with decent low's it all depends on what speakers you currently have.

If you're speakers are modest in a small to mid-sized room, there are decent subwoofers out there for under $200 each. Assuming you have a good receiver and some sort of surround system, you'll more than likely be able to set your speaker size and use the sub's for just the lowest frequencies and the THX's may be overkill. Don't forget how important placement is. If your goal is to simply fill out the sound you don't really need to break the bank. However, if you have a larger room and your other system speakers are mid to high end then to get the subwoofer to enhance the sound you'll need to go a bit more expensive. Monoprice items has always been known to be a great value and it appears these THX's conform to Monoprice's reputation.

I've only had these a week or so but I have to say they are really, really good. I set my crossover point low at 50hz, because my main's are very good, and after a little playing around I think they match very well to my system. I ended up going with these because of Monprice's reputation and the fact they are THX certified (which may or may not mean much). I absolutely recommend them and I think you get alot for the money. That being said, the reality is SVS and other sub's at this price point are pretty similar to each other so I doubt you could go wrong with any of them. The key is to match to your system and room cubic feet.
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When it comes to audio, especially speakers, I think the THX logo still means something.
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If a $150 set of computer speakers can get THX certification, Id rather they save the money on the logo and pass it on to me.

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I've only had these a week or so but I have to say they are really, really good. I set my crossover point low at 50hz, because my main's are very good, and after a little playing around I think they match very well to my system. I ended up going with these because of Monprice's reputation and the fact they are THX certified (which may or may not mean much). I absolutely recommend them and I think you get alot for the money. That being said, the reality is SVS and other sub's at this price point are pretty similar to each other so I doubt you could go wrong with any of them. The key is to match to your system and room cubic feet.
IDK, the Monolith 10 has an almost identically sized cabinet and the same size driver but 500watts vs. the PB1000's 300watts.

The only advantage I can see with the PB1000 is the ability to return it in the time window with SVS covering the shipping and replacing them with the Monoliths!

Comparing the 12" Monolith vs the 12" PB2000 the advantages are less clear cut as, again, they are at identical price points.

The PB2000 is slightly smaller, has only one port vs two for the Monolith, and actually has a 200 watt advantage in the peak power spec though identical rms power.

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IDK, the Monolith 10 has an almost identically sized cabinet and the same size driver but 500watts vs. the PB1000's 300watts.

The only advantage I can see with the PB1000 is the ability to return it in the time window with SVS covering the shipping and replacing them with the Monoliths!

Comparing the 12" Monolith vs the 12" PB2000 the advantages are less clear cut as, again, they are at identical price points.

The PB2000 is slightly smaller, has only one port vs two for the Monolith, and actually has a 200 watt advantage in the peak power spec though identical rms power.
Having owned both the PB-2000 and PC-2000, the Monolith THX Ultra 12 is superior. I actually had both the PB-2000 and the PB12-NSD at the same time. Level matching them and running both in the same spot, it was very hard to tell the difference in the two in my 2700 ft^3 room. I ened up craigslisting the PB-2000. Still owning the PB12-NSD and now having the Monolith 12, the difference in sound, output and depth is very noticeable.
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If a $150 set of computer speakers can get THX certification, Id rather they save the money on the logo and pass it on to me.
It's not that simple. The THX certificate for these is far more meaningful.

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whats thx?

who needs a 3rd party quality assurance scam?

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whats thx?

who needs a 3rd party quality assurance scam?
I certainly wouldn't call it a scam. A THX certification might carry importance to some, but not to others. It does mean that, in the case of the Monolith subs, that they passed certain performance standards. We don't know what all the process includes, but we do know that the Monolith 12" and 15" are THX Ultra rated. According to them, this means they will achieve at least 115dB down to 20Hz with extremely low distortion in a 3000 ft^3 room with a seating distance of 10-12 feet. The THX certification isn't something that is just "tacked on", but rather a guideline that is used in the process of creating these subs. I'm by no means a THX guy, but the reason these monolith subs are so dang good is attributed to how they were made to meet the THX certification.

The THX Ultra certification is also a rather impressive achievement. Audioholics stated the Ultra certification was basically equal to their "extreme" rating, which is 5000 ft^3 rooms.

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It's not that simple. The THX certificate for these is far more meaningful.
So are you saying its only meaningful in certain instances? When they came up with multimedia category for pc's they lost me, money grab, nothing else. The THX cert says it meets their standards, but nobody outside THX knows what they are.

Well known reviewer is questioning the way they are reporting and scoring measurements of amps during testing. 3rd party testing should be done by a 3rd party, not someone with skin in the game.

A review from Josh or Audioholics means more in the real world. They show how they got from A-Z.

Razer is now the THX pimp, I can see a plethora of gear stamped with the logo in the near future. If it makes you feel warm and fuzzy, have at it.

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So I am planning to upgrade my Subwoofer soon and I was planning to go with an SVS PB-1000, possibly even PB-2000 but I am a little hesitant on that. Are these Monolith subwoofers actually a better value? There actually more Expensive than SVS subwoofers in Canada so I'll have to do some more research.
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So I am planning to upgrade my Subwoofer soon and I was planning to go with an SVS PB-1000, possibly even PB-2000 but I am a little hesitant on that. Are these Monolith subwoofers actually a better value? There actually more Expensive than SVS subwoofers in Canada so I'll have to do some more research.


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You can order these through Amazon.ca in Canada now, but fulfilled by Monoprice, CA. Of course we get shafted on pricing as usual. Still about 370 cheaper than a PB4000 all said and done though, in CAD.

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You can order these through Amazon.ca in Canada now, but fulfilled by Monoprice, CA. Of course we get shafted on pricing as usual. Still about 370 cheaper than a PB4000 all said and done though, in CAD.
Which Monolith sub is less expensive than the PB4000? The PB4000 is more comparable to the Mono 15.

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Which Monolith sub is less expensive than the PB4000? The PB4000 is more comparable to the Mono 15.
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The one thing to keep in mind is the port tuning frequency of each sub when combining. Mismatching may cause unwanted cancellation. Or it may not.

This list should be fairly accurate:

~32Hz: HSU VTF-1 mk3 (2 ports)

~25Hz: HSU VTF-1 mk3 (1 port)

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~20Hz: Rythmik LVX12 (2 ports)

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~12Hz: Rythmik FV25 (3 ports), FV18 (2 ports), FV15HP & FVX15 (1 port)

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Over the last 24 hours I have been testing with the Cap 2400ULF, FV18, and Monoliths 15 & 12. The port tuning frequencies do not have to match when placing subs nearfield.

This is exciting to me because it means the [relatively] diminutive Monolith 10 can be used nearfield regardless of what the main ported sub(s). (I am going to get a Monolith 10 soon and see how it behaves nearfield in a sealed room with sealed main subs.) The Monolith phase control is pretty effective in getting the FR curve right. Unfortunately it has no delay control. So to time align you will need either a AVR/AVP has dual sub outputs with separate distance/delay adjustments or an external DSP like the miniDSP.
I just ordered a Monolith 10 from ebay with today's 15% off coupon. I am going to place it VNF directly behind the MLP with my JTR Captivator 2400ULF in the front right corner of our downstairs den. It should be interesting to see how long it takes them to deliver this 20 miles away.
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I also ordered the Monolith THX Select 10 with the ebay discount. Not sure what I'm going to do with it yet, but it did save me $1074 by not buying the demo XTZ 3X12 that had been calling my name in my sleep.

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I also ordered the Monolith THX Select 10 with the ebay discount. Not sure what I'm going to do with it yet, but it did save me $1074 by not buying the demo XTZ 3X12 that had been calling my name in my sleep.
Man, just give in and and get that Monolith 15"...

You know you want it.

By the way, I don't think the $1499 XTZ 3X12 are "demo units". Maybe that's how the Swedish people call "sale"???
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Man, just give in and and get that Monolith 15"...

You know you want it.

By the way, I don't think the $1499 XTZ 3X12 are "demo units". Maybe that's how the Swedish people call "sale"???
You are so evil. I think the "demo" tag may be returned or actual demo units. None of their speakers state demo and the "30OFF" code doesn't apply to the 3X12 or 1X12 tagged with demo, which there only appears to be a couple of each available. Not sure, but quit tempting me with either of these. I'm weak of willpower when it comes to home theater gear and guns.

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You are so evil. I think the "demo" tag may be returned or actual demo units. None of their speakers state demo and the "30OFF" code doesn't apply to the 3X12 or 1X12 tagged with demo, which there only appears to be a couple of each available. Not sure, but quit tempting me with either of these. I'm weak of willpower when it comes to home theater gear and guns.
Are you saying that measly 15% off for the Monolith 10" is a better bargain than 40% off for XTZ 3X12???

You are so weak...

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Monolith 10

I just received my new Monolith 10 early this afternoon. It's replacing (2) SVS SB12-NSD's. Even though I knew the size of the cabinet beforehand by looking at the specs., I was still surprised by it's size. It has basically the same dimensions as my old Hsu VTF-2 mk4 but with a single port instead of two. I would have liked to gotten the 12"but the room is just too small. The little bit I played around with it, I can tell I'm going to like this little guy! It looks kinda strange with that little 10"driver in that big ass cabinet but it seems to be a good match.

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Man, just give in and and get that Monolith 15"...

You know you want it.

By the way, I don't think the $1499 XTZ 3X12 are "demo units". Maybe that's how the Swedish people call "sale"???
Ugh I wished I hadn’t read this thread, I resisted the 10” monoprice eBay sale but been looking at the xtz 3x12 at 30% off seems like good deal but these “demo” units tempting...

Someone else buy them so I can’t please...
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Ugh I wished I hadn’t read this thread, I resisted the 10” monoprice eBay sale but been looking at the xtz 3x12 at 30% off seems like good deal but these “demo” units tempting...



Someone else buy them so I can’t please...


How does the warranty and service on these XTZs work? Any one know?


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Are you saying that measly 15% off for the Monolith 10" is a better bargain than 40% off for XTZ 3X12???

You are so weak...
For $425 I'll be sleeping in my bed tonight. For $1499 my wife would probably cast me out to the couch for the weekend. I've pressed my luck a few too many times with various purchases. I still think back to when I showed up at home not in my car, but on a Kawasaki Ninja. Not a fond memory.
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I also ordered the Monolith THX Select 10 with the ebay discount. Not sure what I'm going to do with it yet, but it did save me $1074 by not buying the demo XTZ 3X12 that had been calling my name in my sleep.
You have two M12s correct? Do you run with both ports open or one? Place the M10 VNF right behind your MLP.

The XTZ 3x12 was tempting me as well. If the 30OFF coupon applied I would have jumped with both feet!
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You have two M12s correct? Do you run with both ports open or one? Place the M10 VNF right behind your MLP.

The XTZ 3x12 was tempting me as well. If the 30OFF coupon applied I would have jumped with both feet!
I do have dual Monolith 12's, both up front, mostly run 1 port mode. I don't listen to much music on that set up. I have a spot behind my couch, so I probably will try the Monolith 10 there. When I had one Monolith 12 I had it behind the couch, with dual PB12's up front. I need to add on another room to my house. lol

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How does the warranty and service on these XTZs work? Any one know?


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Good question, no idea but JimWilson might

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You can order these through Amazon.ca in Canada now, but fulfilled by Monoprice, CA. Of course we get shafted on pricing as usual. Still about 370 cheaper than a PB4000 all said and done though, in CAD.

PB-1000 is generally $699, currently on sale for $675

Monolith 10 is $795 on Amazon.ca

PB-2000 is generally $1050

Monolith 12 is $1418 on Amazon.ca

I haven't personally read enough on these Monoliths to know whether there worth $100 - $400 more than an SVS. For my budget the Monolith 12 is kind of out of reach. The $100 difference between the PB-1000 and the Monolith 10 would be fine If I knew that It was actually that much better.
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PB-1000 is generally $699, currently on sale for $675

Monolith 10 is $795 on Amazon.ca

PB-2000 is generally $1050

Monolith 12 is $1418 on Amazon.ca

I haven't personally read enough on these Monoliths to know whether there worth $100 - $400 more than an SVS. For my budget the Monolith 12 is kind of out of reach. The $100 difference between the PB-1000 and the Monolith 10 would be fine If I knew that It was actually that much better.
I would guess that the Monolith 12 is probably more on the level of the PB12+

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