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Unfortunately, I think I got a faulty one, I was watching avengers infinity war and on a certain scene, the pop sound happened from the sub and it stopped working.
I uploaded a video with the issue I'm having. the sound appears at the 0:29 mark ( ignore the sound at 0:12 and 0:14 that was coming from my phone )
the sub needs a reset to work again but happens again if I replay the scene.
the link to the video:

is there any way I can fix this by myself?
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Unfortunately, I think I got a faulty one, I was watching avengers infinity war and on a certain scene, the pop sound happened from the sub and it stopped working.
I uploaded a video with the issue I'm having. the sound appears at the 0:29 mark ( ignore the sound at 0:12 and 0:14 that was coming from my phone )
the sub needs a reset to work again but happens again if I replay the scene.

is there any way I can fix this by myself?
It’s hard to say without more info as doni01 suggested.
Did you try plugging it into another outlet on a different circuit?

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AVS member Dim3nsion just brought to my attention that the Monolith subs have received a price increase recently. Monolith 12 is now $879.99, as well as the 12" sealed model. The other subs also received a price increase, but not as much as the 12". Putting the 12" close to $900 is going to make it hard to recommend compared to the HSU VTF-3 mk5 with a $895 price when not on sale.



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It’s hard to say without more info as doni01 suggested.
Did you try plugging it into another outlet on a different circuit?
No i i did try because i only have one outlet with 110v.

The settings i have on the sub right now are as follow
Crossover : 160hz
Level: +6db
Phase: 0
Crossover switch : off
EQ: THX
Power : on

audyssey set the level of the sub at -12.
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No i i did try because i only have one outlet with 110v.

The settings i have on the sub right now are as follow
Crossover : 160hz
Level: +6db
Phase: 0
Crossover switch : off
EQ: THX
Power : on

audyssey set the level of the sub at -12.
I'd lower your crossover to 80 Hz, lower the sub level to 0. Change the Denon subwoofer level to the same level as your fronts. Overall it seems that you are overdriving it, especially with such a high crossover frequencey.
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I'd lower your crossover to 80 Hz, lower the sub level to 0. Change the Denon subwoofer level to the same level as your fronts. Overall it seems that you are overdriving it, especially with such a high crossover frequencey.
Alright i will do what you suggested
For sub level i see there is + 0db sould i set there knob there ?
Aslo do i have to recalibrate the avr ?
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Alright i will do what you suggested
For sub level i see there is + 0db sould i set there knob there ?
Aslo do i have to recalibrate the avr ?
Yes change it from +6 to 0. I don't think you need to rerun Audyssey at least right away, but others can chime in.
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Keep the crossover at 160 let the avr do it all.. Something like this..

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No i i did try because i only have one outlet with 110v.

The settings i have on the sub right now are as follow
Crossover : 160hz
Level: +6db
Phase: 0
Crossover switch : off
EQ: THX
Power : on

audyssey set the level of the sub at -12.
So i changed the level to +0db and kept everything as above
Audyessy set the level of the sub at -7.5

I played the same scene from the avengers and i t played without issues but got the same problem from the opening of EOT .

does that mean the sub just can't handle it or it's an issue with the unit ?
Do you think the placement of sub can have an effect on the problem ?
Any other recommenda movie scene to test the sub more ?
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EOT will make a lot of subs sound like they have problems so i would check these out to find out how it sounds. https://www.svsound.com/blogs/svs/10...-movie-moments
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So i changed the level to +0db and kept everything as above
Audyessy set the level of the sub at -7.5

I played the same scene from the avengers and i t played without issues but got the same problem from the opening of EOT .

does that mean the sub just can't handle it or it's an issue with the unit ?
Do you think the placement of sub can have an effect on the problem ?
Any other recommenda movie scene to test the sub more ?
Where are you guys getting the idea of a 160 Hz crossover being appropriate? Maybe I'm missing something but I've never heard of setting a quality sub that high. You are asking the sub to do way more work.
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Where are you guys getting the idea of a 160 Hz crossover being appropriate? Maybe I'm missing something but I've never heard of setting a quality sub that high. You are asking the sub to do way more work.
That's the sub crossover, I'm sure his receiver is at something lower. Anyway, a good sub can perform just fine at 160, though it will be localizable.
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That's the sub crossover, I'm sure his receiver is at something lower. Anyway, a good sub can perform just fine at 160, though it will be localizable.
Good point. OP, what crossover do you have the subwoofer set at in the AVR settings?
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That's the sub crossover, I'm sure his receiver is at something lower. Anyway, a good sub can perform just fine at 160, though it will be localizable.
Setting it all the way up.. Let's your avr handle all the xover..

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Good point. OP, what crossover do you have the subwoofer set at in the AVR settings?
120hz , keep it as it's the default setting
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One of the switches disables the sub's crossover if you want the avr to handle it.

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120hz , keep it as it's the default setting
Are you sure that's what the speakers were set at, and not the LPF for LFE setting? It set the mains to small/120 Hz? They must be tiny if so...?
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This was earlier in the thread from the hardcore dudes lol..

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So i changed the level to +0db and kept everything as above
Audyessy set the level of the sub at -7.5

I played the same scene from the avengers and i t played without issues but got the same problem from the opening of EOT .

does that mean the sub just can't handle it or it's an issue with the unit ?
Do you think the placement of sub can have an effect on the problem ?
Any other recommenda movie scene to test the sub more ?
It's good to see Audyessy has the Trim set to be less then -12 which is it's upper limit of Denon/Marantz units and at that point there is no telling what the sub volume level was actually set at. With the post-calibration AVR sub trim now set to -7.5 and sub level to +0 this is a pretty tame setting for the Monolith Subs. Normally I shoot for a -11 AVR trim level and increase the reduce it as needed on the AVR. Then if more bass is needed increase the Sub Level(s) symmetricly.II-C: Where And How To Add Bass

What AVR are you using? And what was the MV (main volume) set to?

What other speakers are there in the setup, and what are the post-calibration crossovers set to?

How is the sub connected to the AVR? I'm assuming an RCA with on Y-Connectors.

To your questions above:
If your only noticing issues in EOT track then it's most likely not the Sub.
Yes, placement is important. VIII-E: Subwoofer Placement in a Room
Alita: at the beginning where she rescues the dog from under the centurion. And Ready Player One - The Bomb scene towards the end of the movie has massive long lasting bass.


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Are you sure that's what the speakers were set at, and not the LPF for LFE setting? It set the mains to small/120 Hz? They must be tiny if so...?
the lpf for lef setting is at 120 hz.
My speakers are set to small at 80hz.
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It's good to see Audyessy has the Trim set to be less then -12 which is it's upper limit of Denon/Marantz units and at that point there is no telling what the sub volume level was actually set at. With the post-calibration AVR sub trim now set to -7.5 and sub level to +0 this is a pretty tame setting for the Monolith Subs. Normally I shoot for a -11 AVR trim level and increase the reduce it as needed on the AVR. Then if more bass is needed increase the Sub Level(s) symmetricly.II-C: Where And How To Add Bass

What AVR are you using? And what was the MV (main volume) set to?

What other speakers are there in the setup, and what are the post-calibration crossovers set to?

How is the sub connected to the AVR? I'm assuming an RCA with on Y-Connectors.

To your questions above:
If your only noticing issues in EOT track then it's most likely not the Sub.
Yes, placement is important. VIII-E: Subwoofer Placement in a Room
Alita: at the beginning where she rescues the dog from under the centurion. And Ready Player One - The Bomb scene towards the end of the movie has massive long lasting bass.


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I have a denon avr x2500h , rp-600m and rp-504c
I set the speakers to small and 80hz crossover.
I put the vlomue when watching movies and TV shows at -15 db to -10 db depending on the content .

For the subwoofer i use the regular RCA cable from amazon basic. For now i have not noticed any issue from sub and i hope it's just a problem with that specific scene and not from the unit itself.
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Where are you guys getting the idea of a 160 Hz crossover being appropriate? Maybe I'm missing something but I've never heard of setting a quality sub that high. You are asking the sub to do way more work.
Agreed, and as long as the main speakers can handle down to 80Hz.

Having capable mains I recently implemented Three Step Cascading Crossovers post-calibration.

1. Set main crossovers to 80hz, and surround speakers slightly higher.
2. Set LPF of LFE (which controls a separate bass channel, the .1 low-frequency effects channel, which only the subwoofers play during 5.1 content) to 80Hz.
3. On the subs switch Crossovers Off and set to 80Hz.

Reference: III-C: Cascading Crossovers


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I have a denon avr x2500h , rp-600m and rp-504c
I set the speakers to small and 80hz crossover.
I put the vlomue when watching movies and TV shows at -15 db to -10 db depending on the content .

For the subwoofer i use the regular RCA cable from amazon basic. For now i have not noticed any issue from sub and i hope it's just a problem with that specific scene and not from the unit itself.
Sounds like your getting it dialed in. Not all movies will take the same amount of MV to sound good. You may try just reducing MV for EOT.

The Monolith Subs are excellent subs but can be a bit challenging to setup. They also have there own sound signature that takes some getting use to, particularly if coming from an boomy sounding sub.


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I have a denon avr x2500h , rp-600m and rp-504c
I set the speakers to small and 80hz crossover.
I put the vlomue when watching movies and TV shows at -15 db to -10 db depending on the content .

For the subwoofer i use the regular RCA cable from amazon basic. For now i have not noticed any issue from sub and i hope it's just a problem with that specific scene and not from the unit itself.
The other variable is room size?
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they went up in price, checked monoprice just now.
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I have a denon avr x2500h , rp-600m and rp-504c
I set the speakers to small and 80hz crossover.
I put the vlomue when watching movies and TV shows at -15 db to -10 db depending on the content .

For the subwoofer i use the regular RCA cable from amazon basic. For now i have not noticed any issue from sub and i hope it's just a problem with that specific scene and not from the unit itself.
Sorry don't take this the wrong way but what you are experiencing is a User Error! Read the material that was provided above in more than one post and you will have all your questions answered
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they went up in price, checked monoprice just now.
The price increase probably reflects new tariffs.
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M15-S review

I just posted my evaluation on the M15-S. For those interested you can find it at this link.

 
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Have you reviewed the Monolith minitower and center channel speakers? Looked around but can’t find much on them from third party reviewers.
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