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<$500 subwoofer recommendation

I'm looking for a subwoofer <$500 (Can't go over that). My 6.0 home theater is in the 11'x22'x8' basement room, which was set up by the previous house owner. LCR are 3 Phase Technology PC-3 speakers hanging from the ceiling. Surrounds and back are Boston Acoustics. I plan to put the subwoofer in the back so there's no restriction on its size. This room is also a kid's room so putting the subwoofer in the back is the safest though sound may not be optimal. I have an Onkyo AVR and plan to upgrade it (but don't know to what).

I learned SVS PB-1000 is fantastic, and Emotiva make good subs too. Dayton/Klipsch/BIC/Polk are also OK. I'm open to have 2 or more as long as the total is below my budget. Which would best suit my needs? Thanks a lot.

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The subwoofer will be used for movies.

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Other than DIY, $500 options include the SVS PB-1000 and Monolith THX Select 10, both 10" subs. The next one up the price ladder is the Rythmik LV12r for $549. I would personally go with the Monolith 10, which is THX rated for a 2000 ft^3 room, which your room falls under. I just recently picked up the Monolith 10 for $425 through one of the ebay coupon code sales. If you can wait for another one of these sales, ebay seem to have them at least once a month. They even had one a month or so ago that was 20% off up to $100, so the Monolith 10 was $400.
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Take a good look at the Monoprice Monolith 10 inch THX sub. $500. Has a 500 watt amp. Get one now and later get a second one.
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Other than DIY, $500 options include the SVS PB-1000 and Monolith THX Select 10, both 10" subs. The next one up the price ladder is the Rythmik LV12r for $549. I would personally go with the Monolith 10, which is THX rated for a 2000 ft^3 room, which your room falls under. I just recently picked up the Monolith 10 for $425 through one of the ebay coupon code sales. If you can wait for another one of these sales, ebay seem to have them at least once a month. They even had one a month or so ago that was 20% off up to $100, so the Monolith 10 was $400.
Thank you. $499 seems standard for Monolith 10. I'll wait for a sale. I didn't know monoprice makes expensive subs too.
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Take a good look at the Monoprice Monolith 10 inch THX sub. $500. Has a 500 watt amp. Get one now and later get a second one.
Thanks. Would having 2 be an overkill for such a room since one sub is enough to fill it?
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Dual subs helps smooth out the response of your subs. Opens up more possibilities. With duals you might even place one sub nearfield,i.e. placing one within 4 feet of the listening position.

Start with one 10 inch Monolith and go from there.
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Thanks. Would having 2 be an overkill for such a room since one sub is enough to fill it?
No. It'll happen with smooth out the response; however, you'll need to place it in a different location than the first sub. Or, place it nearfield.

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Dual subs helps smooth out the response of your subs. Opens up more possibilities. With duals you might even place one sub nearfield,i.e. placing one within 4 feet of the listening position.

Start with one 10 inch Monolith and go from there.
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No. It'll happen with smooth out the response; however, you'll need to place it in a different location than the first sub. Or, place it nearfield.

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Got it. This is really a money black hole.
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Got it. This is really a money black hole.
The good news is the Monolith is such a game changer within your budget one just might be enough.

The identically sized Pb1000 has 300 watts of power vs the Monolith's 500 which is stunning at the price point.

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The good news is the Monolith is such a game changer within your budget one just might be enough.

The identically sized Pb1000 has 300 watts of power vs the Monolith's 500 which is stunning at the price point.
Don't judge a sub by watts alone. I will say that on paper the Monolith 10 and PB12-NSD seem very close. After a short time with the M10 and having just recently sold my PB12's, the PB12 is going to be a more capable home theater sub, particularly lower in range. At least this was the case in my 2700 ft^3 room. I've never owned the PB-1000, so I can't say with any certainty, but I would still say the M10 should be an overall better sub. When Thanksgiving rolls around and if SVS runs the PB12 again for $500, I'll be recommending it over the Monolith 10 for the same money.

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Don't judge a sub by watts alone. I will say that on paper the Monolith 10 and PB12-NSD seem very close. After a short time with the M10 and having just recently sold my PB12's, the PB12 is going to be a more capable home theater sub, particularly lower in range. At least this was the case in my 2700 ft^3 room. I've never owned the PB-1000, so I can't say with any certainty, but I would still say the M10 should be an overall better sub. When Thanksgiving rolls around and if SVS runs the PB12 again for $500, I'll be recommending it over the Monolith 10 for the same money.
On paper the 400 watt PB12 has a much larger driver and cabinet than the 500 watt Monolith 10.

Cabinet and driver size are big factors, no question.

But for $500 outside of Black Friday specials given two good subs in the 10" range I'd go for the one with almost 70 percent more power every day of the week.

Why did you get rid of the two Pb12s and keep the Monolith 10s if the Pb12s were better?
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On paper the 400 watt PB12 has a much larger driver and cabinet than the 500 watt Monolith 10.

Cabinet and driver size are big factors, no question.

But for $500 outside of Black Friday specials given two good subs in the 10" range I'd go for the one with almost 70 percent more power every day of the week.

Why did you get rid of the two Pb12s and keep the Monolith 10s if the Pb12s were better?
I wouldn't say the PB12 is "better" than the Monolith 10, but in a room my size the PB12 is going to be a more capable home theater sub. I really like the sound of the Monolith subs and actually sold the PB12's just a couple of days before the Monolith 10 arrived. I'm not exactly lacking in subs, so selling the PB12's, which were between 4-5 years old, didn't really matter.
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The identically sized Pb1000 has 300 watts of power vs the Monolith's 500 which is stunning at the price point.
Subwoofer amplifier output watts is fairly meaningless without more context, like driver sensitivity. I would advise to ignore this metric when comparing subs.
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Subwoofer amplifier output watts is fairly meaningless without more context, like driver sensitivity. I would advise to ignore this metric when comparing subs.
Sound and Vision was mightily impressed by that same amp when installed in the 12.

Looking forward to reviews of that sub more than the larger ones which were already given high marks which is what I expected based on AVS member "tests."

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Sound and Vision was mightily impressed by that same amp when installed in the 12.

Looking forward to reviews of that sub more than the larger ones which were already given high marks which is what I expected based on AVS member "tests."
Unlike the Monolith 12, the Monolith 10 did exhibit some port noise when I was running it fairly hot. Grenade scene in WWZ and the Pulse server scene did show the limitation of the 10" driver and single port. In a smaller room this probably wouldn't be as much of an issue, being fair to the Monolith 10. My 2700 ft^3 room is quite a bit larger than the 2000 ft^3 it's THX rated for.
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