Originally Posted by Shades228
Have you taken measurements? I've owned a PL 200 not the II version but I can't see it being on par with a PB2k unless distortion is making the PL 200 sound louder.
Not w/ a measurement mic but an SPL meter. I agree the PL does distort absolutely before the SVS would think about it but, that’s not the factor here.
Originally Posted by AmerCa
There must be something wrong going on with the PB2K, in that space your sub should be wreaking havoc. I read on the SVS thread someone having an issue similar like yours, and with some tweaking the user got more satisfactory results. Your impressions certainly don't look normal at all.
Do you know what page(s) this was on? I agree something is not setup correctly here because my Monolith would shake **** off my furniture if I wanted it to.
Originally Posted by AmerCa
From the SVS thread. It's a PB-16 Ultra, but the guy's impressions were similar than yours regarding output. The poster eventually got better results. Follow the replies to see how things worked out for him, if you're interested.
Again, do you know what pages this discussion took place on?
Originally Posted by RayGuy
Sounds like the difference between bloated frequency response and flatter frequency response. When your ears are used to the former, it takes some time to get used to the latter.
However, the first thing you need to do is a sub crawl (Google, if not familiar). Do not assume that just because your former sub "worked" in a particular position in the room, that the new sub will also work there. You need to start over, assuming nothing.
There is no more important factor in getting good bass response in a room than the physical position of the sub. The secondary consideration is the seating position, which should be an odd percentage of the length of the room. The best options are 2/3, 3/5, 5/7th, etc. Avoid 1/2, 1/4, or up against a back wall.
It may take some effort and experimentation to get what you are looking for. Contrary to general opinion, subs are NOT plug and play devices! Don't let the initial experience taint your enthusiasm. Just keep at it until you get what you want. Most folks don't get it right the first time.
Oh I agree with the majority of what you said other than the flat vs bloated. The only reason I compared the SVS to the BIC was to further prove how bad my experience has been; price point comparison mainly.
Although I do realize I have an issue. I did do the sub crawl, both with my ears & an SPL meter. I have three places where it’s the best response; 1/2 way on the both side walls & one corner loaded next to my TV stand. I tried the corner loaded first then moved to both side walls. It just isn’t outputting properly.
Just to note, whenever I use both L&R inputs(plate amp) w/ a Y adapter it increases the SPL 5dB vs just using LFE so I also considered a signal/voltage issue but, I’ve tried four different interconnects along w/ 3 different subs & the SVS is the only one having this issue.
I also considered I may be in a null, I spent the entirety of last night rearranging my entire room just to actually end up in a real null. Atm my seating is losing approximately 20dB so I’m going to have to start from scratch again.
I thought at first maybe my expectations were too high but, at 0.0 MV(test tones) and max gain I should be measuring more than 80dB(obviously not in a null)
Originally Posted by MIX_MASTER_ICE
Either there was something wrong with the PB-2000, the settings, the placement, or all of the above. Having owned the PB-2000 and currently owning the Monolith THX Select 10, I can say I would easily pay the additional $100 for the PB-2000 over the Monolith 10 if that were the scenario. Now when the Monolith 10 is around $400-$450, it's a great buy for a small to medium sized room. It's not going to compete with the PB-2000, which is more comparable to the Monolith 12.
Oh I totally agree something is not setup correctly, I just do not know what. See the above post.