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@aron7awol are Edge of Tomorrow and Battle LA the only no BEQ needed titles so far? They're the only ones that I remember.

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Updated to DTS-HD MA 7.1

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@aron7awol are Edge of Tomorrow and Battle LA the only no BEQ needed titles so far? They're the only ones that I remember.
I'll take a look at them.
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BassEQ Battle: Los Angeles (2011) DTS-HD MA 5.1




The -2.5dB gain is a MV decrease.

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Yes, a Harmony can be used. You have to program it from the laptop no matter what remote you want to use, and it wont work if you have a WI-DG connected to the USB(at least on the 10x10HD, not sure/confirmed on the 2x4HD), but other than that: smooth
No workie on 2x4 either (WI-DG)
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I'll take a look at them.
Thanks, I know we talked about Battle LA in like August and at the time it looked like there was nothing to be done with it. Here's your graph on it from ultimate bass thread, https://www.avsforum.com/forum/113-s...l#post56810602

Edge of Tomorrow is one that I thought couldn't be BEQed due to the sine wave hit at the start. Looking at the graph it's almost one to BEQ without the intro and you need to switch your config a couple minutes into it. Here's Mr. Grey's graphs of it https://www.avsforum.com/forum/113-s...l#post51173473

I wasn't sure if there was any others like this too. I'm trying to make a note of them.
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You could do 3 movies and leave a config as default for quick switching on the fly, obviously you'd just need a remote unless you're taking the laptop along.

Which leads me to a next question, has anyone got a Harmony remote to work? I looked for it in devices but it said it wasn't ir compatible?
Yes you can use the Harmony, I have been meaning to post this...

I bought the miniDSP remote and outta the box it controls the miniDSP, it doesn't need to be programmed
So I went to the laptop and started to setup the device on the harmony software taking the time to use the IR learning function going through all the steps. Finally getting to the end of it all, only to have a warning pop up stating that the miniDSP Is not a IR device and then the software ignores it... Frustrating!

I tried this many times 6 different ways from Sunday, renaming the device, etc...

So long story short don't bother trying to program the harmony software using the desktop software, the software is broken at the moment and I wasted many hours trying work arounds to get it to go.
Use the Harmony app on your phone and go through the setup, no warnings and it worked the first time through.

I use the Harmony to switch between the four configs on the fly.
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Edge of Tomorrow is one that I thought couldn't be BEQed due to the sine wave hit at the start. Looking at the graph it's almost one to BEQ without the intro and you need to switch your config a couple minutes into it. Here's Mr. Grey's graphs of it https://www.avsforum.com/forum/113-s...l#post51173473

I wasn't sure if there was any others like this too. I'm trying to make a note of them.
I was also going to request EoT as well, aside from the opening the rest of the movie seemed like it could use some BEQ magic.
Of course this could be extremely hazardous to the uninformed, thats why I refrained from asking.
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So long story short don't bother trying to program the harmony software using the desktop software, the software is broken at the moment and I wasted many hours trying work arounds to get it to go.
Use the Harmony app on your phone and go through the setup, no warnings and it worked the first time through.

I use the Harmony to switch between the four configs on the fly.
I have the old Harmony One, which doesn't use the hub so I can't use the app I've added the 2x4HD as a device but there are no buttons pre-programmed and as i don't have the actual remote I can't learn the functions, so I'll probably just buy the actual remote as they're only about £10 over here (UK)

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I have the old Harmony One, which doesn't use the hub so I can't use the app I've added the 2x4HD as a device but there are no buttons pre-programmed and as i don't have the actual remote I can't learn the functions, so I'll probably just buy the actual remote as they're only about £10 over here (UK)
Well all hope isnt lost, just use some remote you have laying around to use with the miniDSP as it has a learning function> teach the mini that remote> then learn that remote with the One and you should be good... if you have the learn feature on the One, that im not sure of* edit it can learn, see link if that helps>Page 23

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Hi @aron7awol , another request for BEQ: Netflix Bird Box.

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Mission Impossible Fallout was so much fun. Saw this at an AMC Prime and immediately was anxious to see how it would be mixed for the home. Loved at the Prime and loved it at home with Aron's beq settings. The chopper climax scenes were marvelous Atmos and surround usage.....definitely love this franchise, especially from part 3 to Fallout. The vehicle chase scenes, the gunshots, the motorcycles...lots of sexy bass and now I gotta watch all of them again, lol.

Aquaman in an IMAX theater was an audio and visual feast. Acting, writing, and directing were all piss-poor cheese. However, if they stay faithful to the theatrical release on home video with regards to the fantastic special effects, and massively active surround mix...very intricate and busy surrounds, great height activity and it wasn't even a Dolby Atmos auditorium. There are endless/countless bass sweeps and bass impacts throughout the entire movie. Definitely a bassfest and I pray that they don't touch this mix much at all for home release.
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A few BEQ requests when you get the chance. Thank you.

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BassEQ Edge of Tomorrow (2014) DTS-HD MA 7.1

WARNING: If you don't do everything perfectly, this BassEQ will destroy your subwoofers. This is not a joke or an exaggeration. It will be the hottest signal ever sent to them, and it will very likely be the last signal ever sent to them. If you're not 100% confident in your abilities to implement this safely, just don't do it!

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Edge of Tomorrow is one that I thought couldn't be BEQed due to the sine wave hit at the start. Looking at the graph it's almost one to BEQ without the intro and you need to switch your config a couple minutes into it.
Please don't add a config file for Edge of Tomorrow to your repository. It's just too dangerous.

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Please don't add a config file for Edge of Tomorrow to your repository. It's just too dangerous.
Wow!!! Thanks for making the graph. Really puts things into perspective, that is bloody insane! I am too scared to even think of trying it, even for "science".
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BassEQ Edge of Tomorrow (2014) DTS-HD MA 7.1

WARNING: If you don't do everything perfectly, this BassEQ will destroy your subwoofers. This is not a joke or an exaggeration. It will be the hottest signal ever sent to them, and it will very likely be the last signal ever sent to them. If you're not 100% confident in your abilities to implement this safely, just don't do it!

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OMG! Small foot with BEQ is the bomb! Movie is really good IMO and the bass is just awesome with BEQ. Kids loved it too! great job Aron.


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Please don't add a config file for Edge of Tomorrow to your repository. It's just too dangerous.
I'll leave it out. Touching that one is dangerous. I'm even thinking of turning down my house curve a little the next time it's played. It pushes them hard. In my build thread I added a video that I took a couple days ago of the 24" playing the opening. It's nuts.

I'm thinking of maybe adding a file though for EoT with all the filters off and putting a note in the fill name to not add a BEQ for safety. That way if anyone goes looking for it they'll see it and hopefully not try to do one on their own. Any thoughts on this idea?
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BassEQ Bird Box (2018) DD+ Atmos




The 4dB gain is a MV increase.
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I think that makes 450 BEQs!

On toward the huge milestone of 500...

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I'll leave it out. Touching that one is dangerous. I'm even thinking of turning down my house curve a little the next time it's played. It pushes them hard. In my build thread I added a video that I took a couple days ago of the 24" playing the opening. It's nuts.

I'm thinking of maybe adding a file though for EoT with all the filters off and putting a note in the fill name to not add a BEQ for safety. That way if anyone goes looking for it they'll see it and hopefully not try to do one on their own. Any thoughts on this idea?
I've played it with my house curve active, and my subs are ported but are tuned low enough that they can do the last 10Hz tone serious justice. At one point, I tested it a few times in a row creeping up with the volume toward reference bass and I just had to stop because it was actually scary how much it was affecting my house. My wife was yelling at me saying that I was just being foolish and she was right!

When I was testing the limits of my subs when I first built them, I was testing 10Hz CEA-2010 burst tones and usually those bursts are a nice safer way to test limits, but even they were making the doors upstairs in my house slam violently back and forth within their jambs. The square waves of EoT just want to rip my house apart. It's actually crazy and maybe irresponsible that they would put that on a retail disc.

I don't really see any downside in doing what you are thinking with the blank file.
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I think that makes 450 BEQs!

On toward the huge milestone of 500...
Thanks Aron I really cannot keep up with you in entering these LS’s into jriver.
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The -4dB gain is a MV decrease.
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I've played it with my house curve active, and my subs are ported but are tuned low enough that they can do the last 10Hz tone serious justice. At one point, I tested it a few times in a row creeping up with the volume toward reference bass and I just had to stop because it was actually scary how much it was affecting my house. My wife was yelling at me saying that I was just being foolish and she was right!

When I was testing the limits of my subs when I first built them, I was testing 10Hz CEA-2010 burst tones and usually those bursts are a nice safer way to test limits, but even they were making the doors upstairs in my house slam violently back and forth within their jambs. The square waves of EoT just want to rip my house apart. It's actually crazy and maybe irresponsible that they would put that on a retail disc.

I don't really see any downside in doing what you are thinking with the blank file.
Yeah EOT intro really is insane (and can definitely be hard on gear if not careful). We used to use it quite a bit in the VS thread for a lot of different reasons with the 30, 25, 20, 15, and 10hz drop down sine steps. We used to pretty much run that thing full tilt and probably wasn't the smartest thing ever lol. Fun but may have had something to do with me having to have 2 of my MA's repaired, IDK. But on that last 10hz note, back when I had my rig in the living room, with the sealed 18's behind behind the seats and the MAs and BK's all going full throttle, I remember the couch seat looking like it was getting about an inch or more worth of up and down travel for the TR when standing off to the side VibSensing it Crazy noises from the house too, especially from the kitchen area from the cabinets, microwave, stove etc rattling. EOT intro cranked up is just brutal as hell and not just the ending tones. The starting 30hz tone is pretty insane too!

I don't think my setup is a slouch by any means for TR now in the new room, but I do miss my old setup sometimes for the insane amounts of TR that thing could dish out on that couch that had a ton of flex in the middle seat (some of the best TR fun I've ever had on a lot movies) ...



That damn intro is no joke though! Crazy that they would put such a thing in there, its so out of place and WAY hotter than the rest of the bass on that track. Fun (we sure as heck had our fun with it), but dangerous too. I got lucky I think that I didn't tear up anything gear wise, well may have to something to do with the MA's having problems, but not sure. It was kind of a weird issue Randy had never seen before. He fixed them no problem though free of charge so I was very thankful for that. Good guy for sure!!

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I think that makes 450 BEQs!

On toward the huge milestone of 500...
Yup, that was #450 for Movies. There's 462 total if you include the TV shows that have been done. I've enjoyed everyone I've tried so far. I just finished The House with Clocks... While the movie was average the sound was top notch. Good bass throughout and they made really good use of the surround and height channels in the atmos mix.

I also just added the dummy file for EoT too. So we can call it 463 to get closer to the 500 celebration. It's not cheating too much since flat is the correct call for it and you did technically BEQ. We're just not including that BEQ as a file for safety and sanity's sake
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@Nalleh , did you ever get the one you were having a bit of trouble with sent in an fixed up?
Yup, it was fixed in record time: less than 3 weeks So i am back in action. However, did a order for 2 more BK’s, and they got lost in shipping, so will get a refund on that and will have to do a new order.

My MA had a blown voice coil, so it was replaced, had to pay for it, but still worth it, of course
Randolph said the NU6K was too much amp, but i have used it for years without problems, and i do not run the amp full tilt, so IDK.
However, both times they were blown, it happened on the ones under the right seat, not my leaft seat, and i watch movies alone probably half the times, so maybe the right ones bottoms out easier with the same power but less weight.

My 2 BK’s works very well with the settings i have on them now, and only a rare time do i hear the dreaded noise from them, maybe some music score in a movie with a steady beat that triggers a noise, but most times it is fine
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Well all hope isnt lost, just use some remote you have laying around to use with the miniDSP as it has a learning function> teach the mini that remote> then learn that remote with the One and you should be good... if you have the learn feature on the One, that im not sure of* edit it can learn, see link if that helps>Page 23

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Well all hope isnt lost, just use some remote you have laying around to use with the miniDSP as it has a learning function> teach the mini that remote> then learn that remote with the One and you should be good... if you have the learn feature on the One, that im not sure of* edit it can learn, see link if that helps>Page 23

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Or you can just import some random product into the Harmony(i used a Sony Tv that didn’t interfere with my other products) and then learn from the Minidsp plug-in the commands you want(and rename if needed on your Harmony). Learning remote commands are covered in the Minidsp manual.
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Yup, that was #450 for Movies. There's 462 total if you include the TV shows that have been done. I've enjoyed everyone I've tried so far. I just finished The House with Clocks... While the movie was average the sound was top notch. Good bass throughout and they made really good use of the surround and height channels in the atmos mix.

I also just added the dummy file for EoT too. So we can call it 463 to get closer to the 500 celebration. It's not cheating too much since flat is the correct call for it and you did technically BEQ. We're just not including that BEQ as a file for safety and sanity's sake
I didn't realize the TV series weren't counting toward the total. Those series are like 10x the work of a movie!

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My MA had a blown voice coil, so it was replaced, had to pay for it, but still worth it, of course
Randolph said the NU6K was too much amp, but i have used it for years without problems, and i do not run the amp full tilt, so IDK.
How many MAs do you run off the NU6K? Any idea how much power you are pushing to them in the most demanding scenes? Do you ever come close to or hit the limiter? I'm just curious because I am going to be testing my NU3K soon with my MAs.

Considering the Crowson amp is rated at 500W when driving 4 MAs (2 4-ohm loads), and if we assume it is exactly as capable as its specifications say, a NU3K should be able to push ~2x the power into the same loads, and a NU6K ~4-5x the power. The MAs are rated for 500W RMS so a bridged NU3K would seem to be well-matched to push a pair to their limits, and a NU6K well-matched to do the same for 4 of them. Hitting the limiter in either of those cases would be pushing them a bit beyond their rated limits. You may have already done this math, I'm just throwing this out there for anyone who might have similar situations.

Part of the reason I want to test with my new NX3000D is I currently don't really know exactly how hard I'm pushing my Crowson amp and MAs. It definitely seems like they don't need a lot of power to throw us around, but I wonder if I can eliminate the times where my couch goes a little out of control, maybe I can push my Crowsons even more, safely. Having the meters in the NX3000D software will be a nice indicator to finally inform me of how much power translates to certain levels of the MAs.

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