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Would be so great if these clips (and many more) can be provided in the format to burn them on Bluray like here
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USB won't work in my case on my UB900. Bluray no problem. Having these clips on Bluyray will make it a breeze. Also, now its easy to upload the PEQ using import so its 1 click process now. Putting the two together = Lots of fun
Just re-mux your favorite scenes using the awesome beqdesigner app. Then, burn those to BD-R using an iso image created from your favorite blu-ray editing software (Nero, DVDFab, etc.)

Or just simply place the .mkv's on a plex server or similar server for instant access. You can make your own snips....all you need to know is the beginning time and ending time of the movie demo scene and remux accordingly using the simple-to-use beqdesigner remux dialogue box after adding your BEQ's.

This will only be in 5.1 though....if you're looking for Atmos, I'm not aware of any remuxers that can carry the object data in the 7.1 bed channels...could be wrong though??
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BassEQ The Hunger Games: Catching Fire (2013) Atmos



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BassEQ The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Part 1 (2014) Atmos



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Hi-

I just got a MiniDSP HD so I can BEQ my movies. I have a Denon 6300H and an original SVS PCU-13. I originally thought I'd use the Mini DSP to dial a house curve on top of Audyssey, however, it seems if I want to use the BEQ files already uploaded I would either have to tweak every movie and add my house curve or manually enter every movie (note, I like the idea of a mass download).

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Not sure what the s 5.1 channel is......could this possibly be the combination waveform for all channels of the movie?
You are referring to the second column in the signal table or something else? If so, s means slave, i.e that channel is using the filter defined in another channel


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Also, I never quite understood why it always shows the LFE channels as 4 on the remux dialog box.....my remux dialog picture post to Aron a few post above. I've always just left it as 4 when I do the remux, but shoudn't this just be 1 LFE channel?
It says channel not channels ie it is saying which channel in the source is the lfe channel
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You are referring to the second column in the signal table or something else? If so, s means slave, i.e that channel is using the filter defined in another channel

It says channel not channels ie it is saying which channel in the source is the lfe channel
3ll3d00d....Thanks.....I kept reading that as channels since it was next to the total....that makes much more sense now...lol.

What I was referring to is in the drop-down menu when selecting which signal to look at....the first option highlighted in blue on the left hand side of the picture below....(BM) Venom.2018_s1_5 Wasn't sure if that was all signals combined or something else....

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I have not seen folks mentioning this (or I might have missed it) but ever since I discovered this beq thread, I can feel the port wind out of my ported subs pair sitting 12ft away alot more than the first 6 years owning these subs. Beq brings every movie I watch down to and below my subs port tune of 12hz (I am -3db below 10hz) which is why there are more air coming out of those ports and it adds another dimension to my movie watching experiences. The port wind literally gives me the wind chill on my legs watching scary horror movies. It really scares the crap out of me on some scary scenes. Way cool, love it .

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I have not seen folks mentioning this (or I might have missed it) but ever since I discovered this beq thread, I can feel the port wind out of my ported subs pair sitting 12ft away alot more than the first 6 years owning these subs. Beq brings every movie I watch down to and below my subs port tune of 12hz (I am about -3db at 10hz) which is why there are more air coming out of those ports and it adds another dimension to my movie watching experiences. The port wind literally gives me the wind chill on my legs watching scary horror movies. It really scares the crap out of me on some scary scenes. Way cool, love it .
Don't you have audible port noise on top of that?

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^^ Nope. I ran edge of tomorrow intro at refrence MV with subs +6db hot and there was no audible port noise. My normal listening level is below that, usually at -15mv with +8db subs hot and DynEQ ON so I am about reference bass level normally. I am watching Overlord and the bass is over the top at -15mv with lots of port wind
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^^ Nope. I ran edge of tomorrow intro at refrence MV with subs +6db hot and there was no audible port noise. My normal listening level is below that, usually at -15mv with +8db subs hot and DynEQ ON so I am about reference bass level normally. I am watching Overlord and the bass is over the top at -15mv with lots of port wind
Makes me remember that I wanted to test EOT intro at reference too, if I get any port noise there.
I can hit 120db at 10Hz, that will be accompanied by ridiculous port noise thou.
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What I was referring to is in the drop-down menu when selecting which signal to look at....the first option highlighted in blue on the left hand side of the picture below....(BM) Venom.2018_s1_5 Wasn't sure if that was all signals combined or something else....

Yes that is the combined signal, i.e. a simulation of what your SW will see. The options down in that corner let you specify some device specific options to control how that summation happens.
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I just got a MiniDSP HD so I can BEQ my movies. I have a Denon 6300H and an original SVS PCU-13. I originally thought I'd use the Mini DSP to dial a house curve on top of Audyssey, however, it seems if I want to use the BEQ files already uploaded I would either have to tweak every movie and add my house curve or manually enter every movie (note, I like the idea of a mass download).

How are others managing this? Am I thinking about it in the right way?
Yes, you can do that just follows these steps, you need the BEQ Designer app though.. https://www.avsforum.com/forum/113-s...l#post57549086
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Hi @aron7awol , another BEQ request for you sir: Netflix series The Umbrella Academy.
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Hey @aron7awol , i never did bother to ask you....are you okay with people asking for BEQ request? I know you have a life and i don't want to keep bothering you with BEQ request.

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BassEQ The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Part 2 (2015) Atmos


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Hey @aron7awol , i never did bother to ask you....are you okay with people asking for BEQ request? I know you have a life and i don't want to keep bothering you with BEQ request.
I love getting requests. Especially movies in the last 10 years or so that I've missed so far, mostly because they are usually pretty clean and contain more unlockable content. But I like all requests.

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I felt like watching this Norwegian film this morning so I figured I'd BEQ it!

I simply adjust my Main Volume (MV) as needed so I don't include them in the graph like Aron does. (Not technically adept at how he figures that out and makes it show up in the filter graph anyway.)

But if you want watch a film with a building being destroyed that's more realistic than Skyscraper, this is your huckleberry!

(FYI - You don't have to add these to the first page or the repository... I'm just a practicing BEQ Apprentice!)

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Again... felt like reading a movie (subtitles) so I set BEQ to task as I didn't see it listed on the first page.

I manually adjust the MV so it's not listed in the chart, but I think it's set just about right as that Troll is rolling with bass!

(FYI - You don't have to add these to the first page or the repository... I'm just a practicing BEQ Apprentice!)
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@SuperFist : thanks for doing those Norwegian flicks : they are both awsome

BTW: i don’t think there is any point in doing filters below 10hz, as the Minidsp’s only goes down to 10hz ?
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Yes that is the combined signal, i.e. a simulation of what your SW will see. The options down in that corner let you specify some device specific options to control how that summation happens.
3ll3d00d.....Thanks for explaining that signal is combined and what my SW will see....great to know.

As I'm learning more about BEQD, I'm starting to understand how to make better BEQ's for my 5.1 blu-rays and my particular AVR settings.

For the Bass Management section of BEQ (circled in green below), is there a way to change the LPF so the summed SW signal will represent my particular LPF in my AVR?

Also, as I started looking at graphing options at the bottom of the green circle, I discovered the ability to not only display the time domain signal but also right next to it I can display the frequency domain signal (circled in yellow). That is awesome. After this discovery, I can now tweak the BEQ's even more to get a better shape for my SW (LFE) channel!

For the frequency domain graph circled in yellow, any idea what the red signal is? It looks to be a smoothed response of the green filtered signal above it....maybe 1/3 octave smoothing?

Just curious as it may help improve my BEQ's even more depending on what that is and if it can be customized.

Hats off for such a wonderful app and easy to use interface.

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Just watched this at -5db MV. Another awesome job, very nice improvement .. that Pod Race sounds good anyway but with BEQ it seems to add a fair amount of weight and authority throughout the race. The big battle, lightsaber fight just sounded spectacular, best I've ever heard it

I've noticed a few of your older ones were a little more conservative around the -20dbfs at 20 and below and your more recent ones are around -15dbfs.. Was there a reason for this or was it just personal preference?
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@SuperFist : thanks for doing those Norwegian flicks : they are both awsome

BTW: i don’t think there is any point in doing filters below 10hz, as the Minidsp’s only goes down to 10hz ?
Agree with Nalleh....Thanks @SuperFist I really enjoyed Troll Hunter back when it first came out. Going to have to give it a spin again with BEQ! I remember admiring the beauty of the Norwegian landscape when first watching it....incredible!

Never heard of Quake....gonna have to look at getting that one for BEQ!

Can't wait to check out Troll Hunter again....I totally forgot about that movie.
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Just watched this at -5db MV. Another awesome job, very nice improvement .. that Pod Race sounds good anyway but with BEQ it seems to add a fair amount of weight and authority throughout the race. The big battle, lightsaber fight just sounded spectacular, best I've ever heard it

I've noticed a few of your older ones were a little more conservative around the -20dbfs at 20 and below and your more recent ones are around -15dbfs.. Was there a reason for this or was it just personal preference?
Thanks for the feedback!

Yes, the older ones were more conservative for a couple of reasons. One, before I was dong MV adjustments I couldn't push it as hard because if someone does a significant +MV adjustment and it's already up at that -15 to -20 band, it could end up dangerously high. Two, without having the peak spectrum as a guide, it was difficult to know when I was boosting noise rather than real content.
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BTW: i don’t think there is any point in doing filters below 10hz, as the Minidsp’s only goes down to 10hz ?
I have always stayed at 10Hz or above with my filters for that exact reason. Sometimes it takes a slightly different approach in filter design in order to do that and achieve the desired response, but it's doable.
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@SuperFist : thanks for doing those Norwegian flicks : they are both awsome

BTW: i don’t think there is any point in doing filters below 10hz, as the Minidsp’s only goes down to 10hz ?
Yes, normally I'd agree with you, but the 8Hz filter with the -10 reduction was the only way I could tame that huge peak at around 3Hz.. otherwise it's up to scary levels (see below). Unless Aron has another sane way to tame it.

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I have always stayed at 10Hz or above with my filters for that exact reason. Sometimes it takes a slightly different approach in filter design in order to do that and achieve the desired response, but it's doable.
Is there any other devices that can go below 10hz, like jriver? Otherwise, couldn’t BEQd just have a 10hz limit?
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Is there any other devices that can go below 10hz, like jriver? Otherwise, couldn’t BEQd just have a 10hz limit?
I think it's worth keeping the functionality in BEQD. In addition to JRiver/APO/Audition users, remux users may also want the ability to go <10Hz with filters.

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Is there any other devices that can go below 10hz, like jriver? Otherwise, couldn’t BEQd just have a 10hz limit?
Good question....I agree with @aron7awol I'm not sure about other devices and sub 10Hz capability, but since I can feel less than 10 Hz, I like being able to dial it in with BEQD.....maybe it's a placebo effect....lol.
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