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Quick question..
I'm new to this thread and have a MiniDSP 2x4 HD.

To enter movie eq correction from this forum. Do I just enter those numbers on top right corner in photo into output eq section on minidsp?

Sorry if this seems silly to ask, just could not find the exact procedure on how we are on this forum entering the correction..

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Welcome to the crowd, you're going to love it. I used to just enter the PEQ's as listed in the photo as you say, but instead of output side of the Mini, load them into the input side. That allows you to keep any house curve you want into your output side.
Did you notice I said "used to" do it that way. I wised up finally and downloaded the BEQdesigner app, did the merge and now have all the XML files on my laptop. Its a couple clicks and bang its done. Plenty of great instructions on page 1 of this thread on the how to's for setting you up that way.
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Welcome to the crowd, you're going to love it. I used to just enter the PEQ's as listed in the photo as you say, but instead of output side of the Mini, load them into the input side. That allows you to keep any house curve you want into your output side.

Did you notice I said "used to" do it that way. I wised up finally and downloaded the BEQdesigner app, did the merge and now have all the XML files on my laptop. Its a couple clicks and bang its done. Plenty of great instructions on page 1 of this thread on the how to's for setting you up that way.
Thanks.. I'll download the program..

So does program search out on internet and get a updated listed of corrections?

Thanks again.. Now to have fun...
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....So does program search out on internet and get a updated listed of corrections?
Not automatically, you have to merge again with a couple mouse clicks. The frequency that you manually do that is up to you. I would say no more than once a week or two. Just depends if you want to watch a movie that has been added to the list since your last update/merge. Myself I haven't updated in two weeks. Again, its all up to you.
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@aron7awol anecdotal impression only (i.e. I am too lazy to go and review previous filters) so take with a pinch of salt but have you lifted your target curve? I get the impression the beq'ed section is generally higher in level than the rest of the curve recently (or put another way, it is not just correcting hpf).
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I just went back through the last few pages to look at my recent BEQs, and I think Fast Five is kind of the exception, but I do know what you're getting at. I'm definitely picking up the midbass in that particular case to shape the curve to "fit" between the final boosted levels of the ULF and the upper range.

Edit to add: Of course I can't know whether I'm actually countering a HPF since I don't know what the original HPFs added were, but compared to the shape of a "normal" mix it seems to dip in that range so I may in fact be countering a gentle HPF that rolled everything off in that range. I can't be sure, but I think it's preferable with the boosted level of the ULF anyway.
I am wondering if 3ll3 means that earlier(in the beginning) you seemed to target the curve at about -20dB, while lately it seems to be up at around -15dB. You are more "agressive" now.
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This might sound a little crazy but is there anyone in the southeast Florida area that would be willing to come to my house and help me set this up while teaching me how to continue to use it? It looks like an easy to use process with a very steep learning curve!!

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I am wondering if 3ll3 means that earlier(in the beginning) you seemed to target the curve at about -20dB, while lately it seems to be up at around -15dB. You are more "agressive" now.
yes, something like that. Note I don't mean this is good or bad, is just an observation.

random sample of early BEQs which fit my subjective perception of BEQs up to a few months, broadly flat or slightly downsloping curve beyond the original rolloff







vs 2 recent ones which have a bit more of a continuing upward slope



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Yeah, almost as if aron's adding in a house curve
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I am wondering if 3ll3 means that earlier(in the beginning) you seemed to target the curve at about -20dB, while lately it seems to be up at around -15dB. You are more "agressive" now.
Think I previously posted concerns regarding over boosting resulting in boomy, tubby bass. Seemed to have only been a few titles but lately I’ve noticed more titles being a bit over blown. While the extra extension is terrific, not worth it if it comes at the expense of overall tight, defined impactful bass. Just my two cents.
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The movie Don’t Breathe definitely doesn’t “need” BEQ, but I’m giving it a re-spin now and noticed it’s not in the repo. Not sure how much you can do below 20Hz since the peaks are already crazy hot around there, but looks like the average level below 17-18Hz could maybe be brought up a bit. That said, not sure it honestly needs any more authority down low, because the dynamics of the contrasting quiet scenes surrounding the piercingly impactful bass moments are even more insane than I remember with the BOSS in play.
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I agree with 3ll3, not saying it is right or wrong, just an observation on my part too.

I guess Aron can do that now, both because he has learned more about it, doimg almost 800 of them!, but also because of the exellent tools he has at hand for BEQ’ing.

After all, he IS our Ninja BEQ master
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Would The Conjuring be worth doing? I have the Blu Ray, but haven’t watched it yet. The graph in the other thread looks decent
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This might sound a little crazy but is there anyone in the southeast Florida area that would be willing to come to my house and help me set this up while teaching me how to continue to use it? It looks like an easy to use process with a very steep learning curve!!

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Why not at least attempt the basics yourself, then ask here if you get stuck?


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It's very little work actually, as Aron pointed out, the hard part is already done for you.
...and once you have your eyes (and ears) opened to the true potential, you won't want to watch a movie again without BEQ.

Let me dumb it down to caveman level (I figured it out, so surely anyone can)


Buy one of These: https://www.minidsp.com/products/min...minidsp-2x4-hd



Put it Here:



Download the README instructions and 700+ BEQ movie list through the GitHub Repo Here: https://github.com/bmiller/miniDSPBEQ

Click the File Load in the top left corner of the miniDSP HD-1 software, pick any movie off the list of 700+ titles, Hit Connect
The XML files will load the appropriate Low Shelf and Peak filters to the miniDSP input channels in a few seconds.





Watch your movie with Full Bandwidth ULF/LFE. Yes, it's really just that simple.



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Everything Else on the first page is completely optional.

-measuring your room with REW and a UMIK-1 mic

-adding a wireless bridge (Wi-DG) eliminates the USB cable from your miniDSP to your Laptop https://www.minidsp.com/products/accessories/wi-dg

-adding a House Curve to your miniDSP output channels in XML format and merging it with the movie BEQ repo list with the BEQ'Designer App

-creating your own graphs or remux the audio instead of buying a miniSDP (for computer geeks only) using the BEQ'D App

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It really is easy, just stick to the directions and if you have a hiccup, ask on here.

I had one hiccup and PioManiac had me back on track in a few minutes.
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Thanks! I plan on also using the mini dsp to eq my subs as well. I ordered all the necessary items this morning. Hopefully I won't need to ask to many questions!!
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Planning on using BEQDesigner first to remux a few movies that I own to see how I like it first.
Since this is a post Bass Management setup is it just a matter of using the GitHub Repo XML file with BEQDesigner to do the remux?
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Yeah, almost as if aron's adding in a house curve
Yeah, I'm definitely more aggressive now than I was a while back, which I think goes back to when d00d added the peak spectrum functionality to BEQD which gave me a lot more insight into what I was actually boosting. With the MV adjustments, I'm targeting that -15 to -20dB band for the ULF and trying to get a reasonably smooth transition between that band and where the upper bass lies naturally. So I'm not necessarily trying to create a house curve, but more continue the slope that occurs naturally in most mixes.
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The movie Don’t Breathe definitely doesn’t “need” BEQ, but I’m giving it a re-spin now and noticed it’s not in the repo. Not sure how much you can do below 20Hz since the peaks are already crazy hot around there, but looks like the average level below 17-18Hz could maybe be brought up a bit. That said, not sure it honestly needs any more authority down low, because the dynamics of the contrasting quiet scenes surrounding the piercingly impactful bass moments are even more insane than I remember with the BOSS in play.
I thought I did that one because I know I watched it with BEQ. I'll publish one soon. I loved the movie, and I think I remember it was way too strong somewhere around 20-30Hz.
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Thanks! I plan on also using the mini dsp to eq my subs as well. I ordered all the necessary items this morning. Hopefully I won't need to ask to many questions!!

When someone does get stuck and presents a new obstacle, things usually get resolved pretty quickly.
Then I often modify the setup guide to help new users past the same potential road blocks.
...so don't hesitate to ask. All shared information is valuable in an effort to make things easier.

I know there's a LOT of information posted on page one that can make it look overwhelming.
But once you have the tools right in front of you, it's very easy to step yourself through every process.

If you're using the miniDSP to EQ your subs (and/or create a house curve)
Those will be saved to their own xml file (miniDSP file format) using the Output Channels

To merge your personal Config file to the BEQ's (on the Input Channels)
You will be using the BEQ-Designer App (not DesertDog's Desktop Github Repo)

The BEQ-D App will still pull from the same Repo when you do a refresh/save (literally a 2 click merge process)
Going forward all you need to do is click load (miniDSP software) pick a title off your merged list, hit connect.

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I didn't think it needed anything! That is a nice clean unfiltered mix! Even with my modest dual svspb2000 setup, I could feel it.
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Quick question and I'm not sure if this has been asked before but anyway...

Can the minidsp 2x4HD be bypassed when the unit is off?
Ideally, I would use it when I was running the theatre myself but it would be bypassed when off and other people were running the theatre. That would prevent any mistakes of selecting the wrong EQ or movie settings.
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I finally was able to try out the BEQ for the first time with TRON yesterday. I started when he is at the arcade and gets teleported to the grid through the light cycle race. Wow, what a difference in the TR and the low end sound!. I run my subs 6 hot in the avr as well and mv -10.

Now I will be working on removing the 6db boost in the avr and replacing it with a 6 or 8db house curve in the MiniDSP.
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BassEQ Fast Five (2011) Extended DTS:X
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I had to leave the <10Hz down there or it would clip.
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+41 @ 23 hz! That's what you call "lacking." I knew these neutered the low frequencies, but wow.
Un-watchable without BEQ!

The only 4K/UHD I bought (out of all 8) was the last one (Fate of the Furious)
... until I saw it pop up on amazon at 40% off for the 8-Pack last night (June 11/2019 release date)

Should have it sometime today (Prime 1 Day free shipping)



Link: https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Fast-...lu-ray/240499/


So I guess the only ones missing from the BEQ list are 4 and 6? (TIA Aron )




Edit...this just in (ordered last night at 8:45pm arrived just after lunch today)

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Quick question and I'm not sure if this has been asked before but anyway...

Can the minidsp 2x4HD be bypassed when the unit is off?
Ideally, I would use it when I was running the theatre myself but it would be bypassed when off and other people were running the theatre. That would prevent any mistakes of selecting the wrong EQ or movie settings.
There's no power button on the miniDSP, it's always on.
If you disconnect the power source (pulling the plug) there is no pass through to your subs.

Your best option is to utilize the 4 Config slots in the miniDSP software.
Swap to an alternate Config when you're finished with a movie.

I swapped my configs around several times, but currently using:

Config 1 for loading BEQ'd Movie titles (merged for BEQ on Input, House Curve on Output)

Config 2 Input Channels all bypassed, Output Channels have house curve only

Config 3 Night Mode (sub output levels reduced by 5-10dB)

Config 4 Late Night mode (All sub output levels muted, Crowsons only)

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Crypto (2019) please brother Aron? TIA.
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Thanks for the advice PioManiac.
That sounds like a good workaround for a bypass.

Now for my sub amp, (Behringer EP2500 btw) it accepts 1/4" TRS connections. Do I just use a unbalanced RCA to 1/4" TRS adaptor or is it a TS adaptor?
Since it will be a mono signal from the MiniDSP, I'm assuming it will be TS...
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