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@MOberhardt , can you list the BEQ filters you have for The Terminator (1984) please? Thanks.
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Alright y’all, review time again, but I’ll try to make it a little shorter this time around LOL

It seems that most every movie now that has some action and or just decent bass in it, is just transformed into an amazing and even epic experience with these BEQs!!!! So probably not much need to keep repeating myself basically movie after movie for these reviews LOL. But it’s fun to share afterwards sometimes and is just so hard not to PRAISE BEQ and acknowledge just how friggin amazing it is again and again, even though it’s been said who knows how many times on here now!!!!! Pretty darn AWESOME that BEQ can make almost every decent movie seem like it may have been the best bass experience ever LOL That is just mind blowing to me and still sometimes hard to believe that BEQ can really be this good!!! But is it

So, on with it already ...todays UHD movie: Hobbs and Shaw

Typical Fast and Furious over the top action and stunts that no way could be pulled off in real life, but super fun still with the soundtracks + BEQ these days!!! I’ve seen better movies, but I really enjoyed this one for what it is. I got a kick out of a lot of Hobb’s and Shaw’s jabs at each other and all that too, etc and thought they pulled it off pretty good actually, better than I was expecting. Plus, I thought the Deadpool dude (he might as well have had on his suit in this movie for that certain style acting of his lol, which I do enjoy) was entertaining too. Pretty funny stuff about what he was saying after some of the credits rolled at the end of the movie about Game of Thrones, made me laugh!!

Anyway, besides a pretty decent movie, I thought it had fantastic video, soundtrack and bass with BEQ. The Bass is worth mentioning a bit more though. In a word, or maybe an Emoji !!! At least for 10 or so of the bigger bass scenes, and some really good stuff all the way through too. A couple in particular that need mentioning because I felt they were so friggin’ EPIC were, for starters, that Flame Thrower. Every time they fired that thing up, my god!!!! Just so startling, scary and powerful feeling and is the kind of bass feel that i crave. That thing was made for some of the coolest and craziest Bass and TR ever for us junkies!!! LOL I LOVED it when that thing would get fired up!!! Also, there was an external elevator dropping scene that was RIDICULOUS at a certain spot!!!! Also, another that may have taken the cake for possibly being the best of all was when that giant tower fell toward the end of the movie. My poor room and seats, it shook them silly, including me hahahaha I loved every second of it and was so coooooool!!!!!!!! hahaha A lot of other great bass parts too, but I’ll stop there and just say, the bass kicks butt and is a ton of fun!!!

This one is a great fun with BEQ, guys, and is quite the ride if you’ve got your TR up to par!!!

Also, @aron7awol – thanks for the BEQ for ‘All of Mankind’ on ATV+, looks awesome!! Will hopefully check it out this weekend.

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He's not lying on this one, guys! I just got done watching The Bourne Identity and it's got to be one of the most impressive DTS:X soundtracks I've heard thus far. For anyone who wants a scene to test, try at around 42:05 where a ringing sound pans around the room above you and a beat begins to thump (shaking my couch) which sounds like it's coming from above you somewhat. Very nice, indeed!
I just finished Bourne Supremacy and it's better than Identity. The city sounds and traffic were done to perfection in it. Who ever did the DTS:X mixes for the Bourne trilogy needs to do every movie that I'm interested in seeing.

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Hey Guys,

I have dual Psa v1811s on a concrete floor. I get some tactile response at a high spl (near reference) but not nearly as much as I would like. I currently do not have BEQ. Do you think BEQ would be a game changer for tactile response or would it be better to get something like crowsons or the new BOSS design? I would like to try the BEQ first if you guys think that would make a big difference in tactile response and especially with chest slam. Otherwise, i’ll Look to get the crowsons or build a BOSS platform. Just want to know how much tactile difference i’ll get with BEQ first as maybe that will give me what I’m looking for? Thanks in advance.
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Hey Guys,

I have dual Psa v1811s on a concrete floor. I get some tactile response at a high spl (near reference) but not nearly as much as I would like. I currently do not have BEQ. Do you think BEQ would be a game changer for tactile response or would it be better to get something like crowsons or the new BOSS design? I would like to try the BEQ first if you guys think that would make a big difference in tactile response and especially with chest slam. Otherwise, i’ll Look to get the crowsons or build a BOSS platform. Just want to know how much tactile difference i’ll get with BEQ first as maybe that will give me what I’m looking for? Thanks in advance.
This simple answer is get all 3. Once you start with BEQ it'll make you want to get the rest. And if you're considering the Crowsons, you must have the money for them, so yeah just jump in, you won't regret it.
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I have dual Psa v1811s on a concrete floor. I get some tactile response at a high spl (near reference) but not nearly as much as I would like. I currently do not have BEQ. Do you think BEQ would be a game changer for tactile response or would it be better to get something like crowsons or the new BOSS design? I would like to try the BEQ first if you guys think that would make a big difference in tactile response and especially with chest slam. Otherwise, i’ll Look to get the crowsons or build a BOSS platform. Just want to know how much tactile difference i’ll get with BEQ first as maybe that will give me what I’m looking for? Thanks in advance.
Go ahead and do BEQ since its free! But to really get most out of it you do need Crowsons or BOSS. BEQ makes a diff below 30hz and as good as your subs are they will not give you TR in those frequencies like crowsons or boss would.
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I have dual Psa v1811s on a concrete floor. I get some tactile response at a high spl (near reference) but not nearly as much as I would like. I currently do not have BEQ. Do you think BEQ would be a game changer for tactile response or would it be better to get something like crowsons or the new BOSS design? I would like to try the BEQ first if you guys think that would make a big difference in tactile response and especially with chest slam. Otherwise, i’ll Look to get the crowsons or build a BOSS platform. Just want to know how much tactile difference i’ll get with BEQ first as maybe that will give me what I’m looking for? Thanks in advance.
Yeh, if you have a 2x4HD already then give BEQ a try, I thought it was the best upgrade ever for almost a year (I have two s1811's in a 1700cuft room) but actual ~20hz TR on concrete floor is something that's quite hard to come by IME. I had not experienced potent TR below around 20hz but still used to feel that 'room wobble' sensation with my two subs with BEQ. A BOSS will give that and more right down to single digits and is the cheapest option, so I'd try BEQ first then look into adding an additional TR experience (depending on budget) But from my experience, you can't go wrong with a BOSS. My mate described it very well, in that he felt the whole room was shaking.. but it's just the sofa.. it feels that natural

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Hey Guys,

I have dual Psa v1811s on a concrete floor. I get some tactile response at a high spl (near reference) but not nearly as much as I would like. I currently do not have BEQ. Do you think BEQ would be a game changer for tactile response or would it be better to get something like crowsons or the new BOSS design? I would like to try the BEQ first if you guys think that would make a big difference in tactile response and especially with chest slam. Otherwise, i’️ll Look to get the crowsons or build a BOSS platform. Just want to know how much tactile difference i’️ll get with BEQ first as maybe that will give me what I’️m looking for? Thanks in advance.
Yeh, if you have a 2x4HD already then give BEQ a try, I thought it was the best upgrade ever for almost a year (I have two s1811's in a 1700cuft room) but actual ~20hz TR on concrete floor is something that's quite hard to come by IME. I had not experienced potent TR below around 20hz but still used to feel that 'room wobble' with my two subs with BEQ. A BOSS will give that right down to single digits and is the cheapest option, so I'd try BEQ first then look into adding an additional TR experience (depending on budget) But from my experience, you can't go wrong with a BOSS. My mate described it very well, in that he felt the whole room was shaking.. but it's just the sofa.. it feels that natural [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/cool.gif[/IMG]
Ok. Thank you. Does BEQ also enhance the chest slam that you were feeling before getting it?
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Ok. Thank you. Does BEQ also enhance the chest slam that you were feeling before getting it?
Happily to be corrected, but. The 'chest slam' effect is usually associated with the 50hz and up area from what I've experienced, so probably not so much.. So technically it probably won't enhance it (as BEQ usually corrects the filtered bass) but it shouldn't be any different to what you'd experience without BEQ..

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Ok. Thank you. Does BEQ also enhance the chest slam that you were feeling before getting it?
Happily to be corrected, but. The 'chest slam' effect is usually associated with the 50hz and up area from what I've experienced, so probably not so much.. So technically it probably won't enhance it (as BEQ usually corrects the filtered bass) but it shouldn't be any different to what you'd experience without BEQ..
Ok. Thanks for the feedback.
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Ok. Thank you. Does BEQ also enhance the chest slam that you were feeling before getting it?
BEQ only affects the ultra low freq <30hz for most part. If you want that kick in your chest you need to get subs behind you very nearfield (there is a thread for that) or get bigger drivers up front and crank it up!

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Ok. Thank you. Does BEQ also enhance the chest slam that you were feeling before getting it?
Dual v1811's should be giving you plenty of chest slam, that's what they're good at. Your lack of it might be due to your setup, for example how big your room is and how far your subs are, how hot you run your subs, etc etc. Do you have a Mic and REW
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I have been fiddling with the filter optimiser (which works to try to fit the filters into 6 biquads), improved it a bit so it can successfully process nearly everything in the repos. There are only 3 the current strategy can't handle

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Mobe1969_miniDSPBEQ - Movie BEQs - Safe House (2012) DTS-HD MA 5.1.xml - math domain error
Mobe1969_miniDSPBEQ - Movie BEQs - The Wolfman (2010) (Extended) DTS-HD MA 5.1 light.xml - BEQ has too many filters for device (remove 1 biquads)
@aron7awol , for Robin Hood, as you mention that notch filter could be changed to use fewer biquads. It is visible on the heatmap as a consistent depression which suggests it is perhaps a little strong though that might just be the trade-off for being able to bring up the bottom. Anyway even cutting 1 biquad would make it amenable to automatically unstacking the 2 remaining LS filters

@MOberhardt , for Safe House, I see 3 separate files for that one but this particular one uses a massive 2x negative LS that simply cannot be recreated with 1 filter. looks like a HPF might be a reasonable alternative

for Wolfman, this uses 7 PEQs so nothing can be done about that one.

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I just finished Bourne Supremacy and it's better than Identity. The city sounds and traffic were done to perfection in it. Who ever did the DTS:X mixes for the Bourne trilogy needs to do every movie that I'm interested in seeing.
You and i must be on the same schedule... Watched identity last week and Supremacy last night. Totally agree with your comment. The bass with BEQ was quite awesome too...
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I have been fiddling with the filter optimiser (which works to try to fit the filters into 6 biquads), improved it a bit so it can successfully process nearly everything in the repos.
Awesome feature add for those with only 6 slots! Thanks d00d!
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I have been fiddling with the filter optimiser (which works to try to fit the filters into 6 biquads), improved it a bit so it can successfully process nearly everything in the repos. There are only 3 the current strategy can't handle

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Mobe1969_miniDSPBEQ - Movie BEQs - The Wolfman (2010) (Extended) DTS-HD MA 5.1 light.xml - BEQ has too many filters for device (remove 1 biquads)
@aron7awol , for Robin Hood, as you mention that notch filter could be changed to use fewer biquads. It is visible on the heatmap as a consistent depression which suggests it is perhaps a little strong though that might just be the trade-off for being able to bring up the bottom. Anyway even cutting 1 biquad would make it amenable to automatically unstacking the 2 remaining LS filters

@MOberhardt , for Safe House, I see 3 separate files for that one but this particular one uses a massive 2x negative LS that simply cannot be recreated with 1 filter. looks like a HPF might be a reasonable alternative

for Wolfman, this uses 7 PEQs so nothing can be done about that one.
OK, I'll have a look at those and see what I can do. Remove and merge some of those multi versions. That Safe House one though was one I was trying to deal with an odd low Hz subsonic rumble I was getting consistently from my sub, felt like about 3Hz. I might retry that once I get REW sorted for the subwoofer.

Does your processing cater for the limits of the miniDSP settings? Eg max Q of 16, max gain of 16?


EDIT: I've redone the Safe House and Wolfman filters.

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Does your processing cater for the limits of the miniDSP settings? Eg max Q of 16, max gain of 16?
No, there's nothing in there to enforce such limits.

Are those limits the same on all minidsp devices? are they actual device limits or just UI limits?
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No, there's nothing in there to enforce such limits.

Are those limits the same on all minidsp devices? are they actual device limits or just UI limits?
Definitely UI limits and I expect a low level thing to do with 4 or 5 bits binary. I've not tried loading a file with >16 to see what it would display or if it truncates.

Edt. I just tested. It truncates to 16 on loading.
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Edt. I just tested. It truncates to 16 on loading.
On loading into the UI or the device?
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On loading into the UI or the device?
The UI. Of course other than trying to reverse 3ngineer the plug-in I've no way to see what would be transmitted from what is loaded to what is written. But I expect as you have to load to the UI first, it is a hard limit.
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The UI. Of course other than trying to reverse 3ngineer the plug-in I've no way to see what would be transmitted from what is loaded to what is written. But I expect as you have to load to the UI first, it is a hard limit.
not necessarily, it's not uncommon for UI widgets to have min/max bounds which clamp the displayed values to those bounds. If this is a view on an underlying model (as is common in a UI) then it may do nothing to that data (until you change the data or save).
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Hey @aron7awol ,

Would it be possible to get more of the new Disney TrueHD/Atmos releases BEQ'd?

I just picked up Moana, Tangled, and Inside Out. Plus I'd also like to throw in a request for Dora and the Lost City Gold whenever that becomes available.


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Updated to Atmos... @PioManiac It looks like this one never made the list?

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^^^ WOW, what a upgrade!!! UHD one just needed a tiny little BEQ, while the BD was a bottomless pit !
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BassEQ Tangled (2010) Atmos


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Question Another Disney Atmos Upgrade Request

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BassEQ Big Hero 6 (2014) DTS-HD MA 7.1

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I would also like to request a BEQ for the updated Atmos of this one
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