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post #13741 of 14664 Old 05-16-2020, 08:22 PM
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@GeoJustGeo Just watched the Gone in Sixty Seconds because of your post. We enjoyed the movie quite a lot and the bass complimented the car sequences very nicely. I did have to disable one of the Low Shelves there was too much noise for my Hover Boss and that fixed that issue, if your just running subs I don't think you would notice.
Have you seen the need for speed? That has some great bass and mixed hot...
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Have you seen the need for speed? That has some great bass and mixed hot...

I have not. I’ll add it to the list.
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I have not. I’ll add it to the list.

Oh man. Are you in for a treat. It’s a few years old but guy will enjoy it.


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Guess I’ll watch that one tomorrow too, I only have it on Apple TV 4K though.


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If you're using BEQDesigner, there is a bug in the git library that we use that causes files to not be removed if their filename changes. So you'll see duplicates from time to time due to it. This usually only happens on updates to older titles from before Aron was giving the MV adjustments. Every once in awhile there's a newer one like Midway that will get adjusted.

If you run into this, use the Reset button in the lower left corner of the Merge window in BEQd. It'll delete your local cache of the files and redownload everything.
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Alright alright, i've been using BEQ on all the movies i've been watching since "someone" helped me get it setup.

One question though, what's the difference in the folders for bmiller_miniDSPBEQ and mobe1969_miniDSPBEQ. Are there different curves in those?

I have intensions of watching a good 10+ hours of movies/TV tomorrow.... so guess i'll load up BEQ and bing some Star Trek Discovery/Picard
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Can someone post the safety compressor settings? The image in the faq is broken/missing.
Sorry about that, it worked for me, but the image may have been stored in my cache and looked normal on my end.

Please LMK if this one fixed the issue on the setup guide:

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After a couple hours of testing, and troubleshooting, there appears to be a big bug in BEQDESIGNER's "merge minidsp XML" tool with the latest beqdesigner_small v 9.3.

I have a miniDSP 2X4HD, and triple checked I had the correct minidsp set in BEQDESIGNER....

My sub was dead silent, not receiving any signal. I narrowed it down to loading only "merged" XML files. It worked before.


I also verified my config XML works as it should....

Manually loading XML's from the github work.....

Sadly, I watched about 3-5 movies wondering why I had no bass, nor impact whatsoever after loading the merged BEQ files......This is what lead to a couple hours of troubleshooting.
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I'm debating on upgrading my 2X4 HD to a DDRC-24. will I still be able to load merged BEQ XML files if I do? Thanks in advance.
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After a couple hours of testing, and troubleshooting, there appears to be a big bug in BEQDESIGNER's "merge minidsp XML" tool with the latest beqdesigner_small v 9.3.

I have a miniDSP 2X4HD, and triple checked I had the correct minidsp set in BEQDESIGNER....

My sub was dead silent, not receiving any signal. I narrowed it down to loading only "merged" XML files. It worked before.


I also verified my config XML works as it should....

Manually loading XML's from the github work.....

Sadly, I watched about 3-5 movies wondering why I had no bass, nor impact whatsoever after loading the merged BEQ files......This is what lead to a couple hours of troubleshooting.
Some of the ones in the Aron repo did have low pass filter on some of the channels. You know how out of the box the mini DSP has two channels low pass two high pass, so i guess they inherited this. I think they all got fixed. But maybe you just need to delete local files and re pull from git. None in my repo has this though.
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After a couple hours of testing, and troubleshooting, there appears to be a big bug in BEQDESIGNER's "merge minidsp XML" tool with the latest beqdesigner_small v 9.3.

I have a miniDSP 2X4HD, and triple checked I had the correct minidsp set in BEQDESIGNER....

My sub was dead silent, not receiving any signal. I narrowed it down to loading only "merged" XML files. It worked before.


I also verified my config XML works as it should....

Manually loading XML's from the github work.....

Sadly, I watched about 3-5 movies wondering why I had no bass, nor impact whatsoever after loading the merged BEQ files......This is what lead to a couple hours of troubleshooting.
It looks like there is a bug. I was able to duplicate it.

@3ll3d00d I took a quick look at the merged xml file and it looks like the wrong hex values are being written. I'm guessing the ones for the 2x4 are being written. I'm about to head to bed. I'll take a look at the code when I get up if you don't get to it first.

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oops, should be fixed in 0.9.4
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Sorry about that, it worked for me, but the image may have been stored in my cache and looked normal on my end.

Please LMK if this one fixed the issue on the setup guide:

I got the info from the other guys who posted. Appreciate everyone's help...watching in real time, the compressor does do some work during some of the most intensive bass scenes (WOTW lightning and pod emergence, EOT tones, etc).

I tried reloading the guide in two different browsers just now but still only get this:
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I got the info from the other guys who posted. Appreciate everyone's help...watching in real time, the compressor does do some work during some of the most intensive bass scenes (WOTW lightning and pod emergence, EOT tones, etc).

I tried reloading the guide in two different browsers just now but still only get this:
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Alright alright, i've been using BEQ on all the movies i've been watching since "someone" helped me get it setup.
Glad you're enjoying it! Don't be afraid to keep bumping that MA gain up
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Glad you're enjoying it! Don't be afraid to keep bumping that MA gain up
Indeed. I ended up setting the Marantz sub volume to 0, at the moment i've settled on +3 on the subs and +7 on the Crowson. Sounded REALLY good on The Dark Knight Rises last night. We'll see if i want to tweak anything else today during movies.

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Sorry to say WotW is like Oblivion all over again. I'm doing the best I can with this BEQ, but it's going to be a situation where the old track is the one to go with.

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Updated to Atmos...

A lot of noise down low in this track. I think it will be okay with subs only, but it may prove to be detrimental with TR devices.

In my mind, just like with Oblivion, whatever benefit the Atmos objects bring will not be enough to overcome the difference in bass, and the DTS-HD track is the one to stick with.

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^^ HOLY MOLY !, How in the hayzoos is it possible to botch a UPGRADE that much!!! Unbeliveable!!!

So much so, that even BEQ can’t restore it !! TOTALLY crazy!

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Updated to Atmos...War of the Worlds (2005)

A lot of noise down low in this track. I think it will be okay with subs only, but it may prove to be detrimental with TR devices.

In my mind, just like with Oblivion, whatever benefit the Atmos objects bring will not be enough to overcome the difference in bass, and the DTS-HD track is the one to stick with.
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Interesting. Just a heads up... I just looked at The Greatest Showman and the BEQ on the web page shows 5 low-shelf filters with a setting of 12 Frequency, Gain 4.7 and .8Q. But the BEQ designer only loads 4 of them.
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I'm debating on upgrading my 2X4 HD to a DDRC-24. will I still be able to load merged BEQ XML files if I do? Thanks in advance.
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Updated to Atmos...

A lot of noise down low in this track. I think it will be okay with subs only, but it may prove to be detrimental with TR devices.

In my mind, just like with Oblivion, whatever benefit the Atmos objects bring will not be enough to overcome the difference in bass, and the DTS-HD track is the one to stick with.

What absolute morons are remixing these tracks?!? I just don’t understand how almost every Atmos or DTSX upgrade from a stellar bass mix turns into a total bass sh*tshow. Is it some default setting that an idiot leaves alone?? It’s so infuriating!!


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^^ HOLY MOLY !, How in the hayzoos is it possible to botch a UPGRADE that much!!! Unbeliveable!!!

So much so, that even BEQ can’t restore it !! TOTALLY crazy!

Will NOT buy this 4K, sticking with BD
Agreed. I just posted the same thing over in the Bass in Movies thread. I'll save my money, keep my Blu-ray, keep the bass, up mix to feed the ceiling speakers and leave this so called "upgrade" to those running sound bars and TV speakers.
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What absolute morons are remixing these tracks?!? I just don’t understand how almost every Atmos or DTSX upgrade from a stellar bass mix turns into a total bass sh*tshow. Is it some default setting that an idiot leaves alone?? It’s so infuriating!!


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But the ATMOS objects, man! The ATMOS OBJECTS!! I'm sure the engineers/mixers are very proud of that. Surely they're going to be watching it at home with their new soundbars.

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That's a hint you need to do some signal chain optimization to move gain to your amps to give you mDSP more headroom. For more info see the TR Curves link in my sig.
Sorry, I'm still cutting my teeth on all this. I don't have any shakers and I'm using my mDSP to send my processor sub-out to 4 subwoofers. Does maximizing amp gain mean turning up the amps on the subs? Then I'd just compensate by decreasing my AVR or mDSP trim settings to reach my same output volume?
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Interesting. Just a heads up... I just looked at The Greatest Showman and the BEQ on the web page shows 5 low-shelf filters with a setting of 12 Frequency, Gain 4.7 and .8Q. But the BEQ designer only loads 4 of them.
@DesertDog one of the SL filters is set to bypass so only 4 load into beqd
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Sorry, I'm still cutting my teeth on all this. I don't have any shakers and I'm using my mDSP to send my processor sub-out to 4 subwoofers. Does maximizing amp gain mean turning up the amps on the subs? Then I'd just compensate by decreasing my AVR or mDSP trim settings to reach my same output volume?
Yes. You don't necessarily have to max them out, but at least increase them enough that you can turn the earlier stages enough to stop hitting the compressor on the mDSP.
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